VertexSquared Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 I never understood this "10" business. Do guys really, really need 10's to be happy? Or do they just want a 10 so they can brag to their friends and show off to society that they HAVE a 10? I see "10's" as being very hot, but I rarely find myself attracted to them. Looks are important, but I'd rather have a "6" or a "7" with a great, compatible personality than a "10" sex-bot that is otherwise a compatibility wildcard. It would seem that guys are complaining that the "6"s and "7"s think they are "9"s.
PJKino Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 I think the point is that many people often shoot for a type of potential mate that would typically prefer someone who has more to offer. I see it a lot here in NYC. Thats not a Male thing women do it just as much
TheBigQuestion Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 There's really nothing offensive or questionable about that video. The whole message is, learn how to portray yourself in your best and most flattering light, and women are more likely to respond. How many guys here really are going to be attracted to a woman who is ridiculously boring and doesn't have anything else to make up for it? Who here wants to date a woman with nothing interesting to say? There's never been a PUA that has claimed that they can give you the secret to getting EVERY or even the VAST MAJORITY of women. All I see in this thread are a bunch of overly sensitive whiners reading way too much into a video that really only gives a simple message. Nowhere in this video does it say "TURN YOUR PERSONALITY ON IT'S HEAD AND LOSE EVERYTHING THAT'S GOOD ABOUT YOUR SOUL." Also, why make so many assumptions about the woman who is lecturing? How do you know whether or not she's single? How do you know she goes for "players" or anything like that? Because she's good looking and looks high maintenance?
threebyfate Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 I think the point is that many people often shoot for a type of potential mate that would typically prefer someone who has more to offer. I see it a lot here in NYC.I don't even knock anyone who targets someone who has more to offer, as long as they don't whine, moan and gender bash. It's only realistic to expect that you're going to get rejected more often when you target someone who has more to offer than you do. In a nutshell, the proverbial "nice guy" is the worst kind of victim. Nearly every post is about how a 10 wouldn't talk to him and how no girls like him meaning no hot girls like him.Which normally devolves into "Hot girls are gold diggers. I could get these girls if I had a fat wallet". Sure, men can get gold diggers if they're rich. But it's a logical fallacy since they can't get all or most hot girls, if they're rich.
sagetalk Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 I never understood this "10" business. Do guys really, really need 10's to be happy? Or do they just want a 10 so they can brag to their friends and show off to society that they HAVE a 10? I see "10's" as being very hot, but I rarely find myself attracted to them. Looks are important, but I'd rather have a "6" or a "7" with a great, compatible personality than a "10" sex-bot that is otherwise a compatibility wildcard. It would seem that guys are complaining that the "6"s and "7"s think they are "9"s. Girls that could be considered 10's in looks are usually the biggest pain in the butt you could ever have. Their whole life has been handed to them on a silver platter. On the looks scale, 6-8 is ideal, anything above that and she's gonna think she's entitled to alot of stuff.
VertexSquared Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 I don't even knock anyone who targets someone who has more to offer, as long as they don't whine, moan and gender bash. It's only realistic to expect that you're going to get rejected more often when you target someone who has more to offer than you do. In a nutshell, the proverbial "nice guy" is the worst kind of victim. I'd agree with this sentiment. If you shoot higher, expect to strike out more. If you don't want to strike out as much, figure out how to improve yourself. This often includes a lot of difficult introspection and hard work which I feel many people try to avoid -- they feel like the world should bend to them and not the other way around. This results in a lot of the bitter bashing that we see.
AD1980 Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 I dont think most guys think they should get models at all i dont know where women come up with this.. I think most people just want somebody their attracted to.. I dont think im picky at all but at the same time if im incapable of getting somebody i have any physical attraction to id rather be alone then be with soembody i am not into at all just because its my "league"
AD1980 Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 (edited) I'd agree with this sentiment. If you shoot higher, expect to strike out more. If you don't want to strike out as much, figure out how to improve yourself. This often includes a lot of difficult introspection and hard work which I feel many people try to avoid -- they feel like the world should bend to them and not the other way around. This results in a lot of the bitter bashing that we see. Fair point but at the same time ive learned going for people you think are near your level or even below doesnt guarantee anything either.In fact some of the harshest women towards me have been girls im not even that attracted to,sometimes their worse because they dont want to believe they are on the lower level of the social food chain.. You should just approach people you find reasonably attratcive to not people you are lukewarm on but think are in your "league" Edited June 11, 2010 by AD1980
espec10001 Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 Where do you get that idea from? Women age far better than men do. Women live longer. Time is definitely on the female side. Really? Women's power is primarily in how she looks. With age her looks diminish. She may live longer but for what purpose? Men on the other hand, while they do not mature as fast as women do, they gain confidence and financial assets with age. Typically why many women prefer older men, as they should. A younger woman and an older man are more likely to be on the same level maturity wise.
threebyfate Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 Fair point but at the same time ive learned going for people you think are near your level or even below doesnt guarantee anything either.In fact some of the harshest women towards me have been girls im not even that attracted to,sometimes their worse because they dont want to believe they are on the lower level of the social food chain.. You should just approach people you find reasonably attratcive to not people you are lukewarm on but think are in your "league"But that's the crux of it. There are no guarantees in life, so the sooner people accept this, the easier life is for them. OMG, someone rejected me. I'm crushed beyond repair. Come on. We all get rejected at some point or other in our lives.
Cracker Jack Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 I watched the video. The advice went in one ear and out the other because of the power of her accent and boobs.
AD1980 Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 But that's the crux of it. There are no guarantees in life, so the sooner people accept this, the easier life is for them. OMG, someone rejected me. I'm crushed beyond repair. Come on. We all get rejected at some point or other in our lives. I agree..My only point is dont go after people you arent that into just because you think they are in your "league" and easier to get..
threebyfate Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 I agree..My only point is dont go after people you arent that into just because you think they are in your "league" and easier to get..Now I understand. Thanks for the explanation. I agree for those who are able to handle rejection and not gender blame. For those who whine, moan and gender blame, they'll be rejected all the time.
AD1980 Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 Now I understand. Thanks for the explanation. I agree for those who are able to handle rejection and not gender blame. For those who whine, moan and gender blame, they'll be rejected all the time. i agree..I have said i am not really picky at all but at the same time i cant be with somebody i have no physical attraction to at all..If im incapable of getitng somebody im somewhat attracted to id rather be alone im not gonna settle because its my league or level..I dont blame women for this Do i wish i was betetr looking and females were attracted to me? yes all the time but i dont blame women for not being attracted to me i was dealt a bad hand and might be lonely my whole life but such is life..
SarahRose Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 Really? Women's power is primarily in how she looks. With age her looks diminish. She may live longer but for what purpose? Men on the other hand, while they do not mature as fast as women do, they gain confidence and financial assets with age. Typically why many women prefer older men, as they should. A younger woman and an older man are more likely to be on the same level maturity wise. There are plenty of fat old ugly broke guys out there who think they deserve someone 20 years younger than them. My point is that women in general take care of themselves much better than men do and they look far better than a guy the same age they are. It all goes downhill for a man after the age of 35 or so. Paunchy, balding, ED issues, health issues from their years of eating rubbish, smoking, drinking etc. Why on earth would any woman be attracted to someone who is falling apart?
Nikki Sahagin Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 I've said it once before and i'll say it again, all it is is CHEMISTRY, which you either have with someone or you don't, and if you don't, no amount of nice guy, bad guy, nice girl, hot girl, will change that.
Jerry18 Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 If that girl would have been born ugly she would be married to a "nice guy" long time ago..... I think she's pretty ugly. At best a 6.5/10.
Nikki Sahagin Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 I think she's pretty ugly. At best a 6.5/10. You'd think i'm a 1 then. I thought she was gorgeous.
Green Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 I think she's pretty ugly. At best a 6.5/10. At best she looks old and used like a women who used to look pretty. At worst she sorta looks manish and cheap
Jerry18 Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 You'd think i'm a 1 then. I thought she was gorgeous. Well, everyone has a different criteria. I don't like fake boobs and hers look fake. I also don't like dyed hair. Plus, I haven't seen anyone below a 4 yet. So, you're probably not a 1. There are plenty of fat old ugly broke guys out there who think they deserve someone 20 years younger than them. My point is that women in general take care of themselves much better than men do and they look far better than a guy the same age they are. It all goes downhill for a man after the age of 35 or so. Paunchy, balding, ED issues, health issues from their years of eating rubbish, smoking, drinking etc. Why on earth would any woman be attracted to someone who is falling apart? Check the statistics. Men might be only 5% higher on obesity, smoking, and drinking. Plus, we don't have the ticking biological clock.
threebyfate Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 You'd think i'm a 1 then. I thought she was gorgeous.Now you know why these guys are unsuccessful "nice guys".
Nikki Sahagin Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 For 'nice guys' they are demolishing a woman thats done nothing but give help on a video...nice indeed.
sagetalk Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 For 'nice guys' they are demolishing a woman thats done nothing but give help on a video...nice indeed. Nice doesn't mean stupid. This girl was doing it for the money. The way she is dressed screams that she's selling something. She is very attractive (at least to me), but the odds of that girl actually dating a real nice guy are extremely slim.
Cracker Jack Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 I still have yet to understand why a nice guy must be labeled as "bland and replaceable" at the end of the day. Can't a guy be a genuinely nice man without being bland? When I hear women group nice men in that way, it just screams out "drama queen" to me. Every nice guy isn't a yes man, either.
threebyfate Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 I still have yet to understand why a nice guy must be labeled as "bland and replaceable" at the end of the day. Can't a guy be a genuinely nice man without being bland? When I hear women group nice men in that way, it just screams out "drama queen" to me. Every nice guy isn't a yes man, either.She clearly differentiates between the proverbial "nice guys" and good guys at the beginning of the clip. But I disagree with the early part of the clip. This part is so PUA preachy about "causing interest in women" when overall, there's no way to create interest. The attraction is there or not. Sometimes attraction can build when someone gets to know your personality. But attraction rarely builds if repulsion is there to begin with.
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