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Masturbation/porn should be done with the same discretion as any other private body function: ie, she shouldn't even be aware when you are doing it.

 

If she presses you for information, demanding to know if/when you are doing it, just tell her that you see it as a private thing like taking a dump and you aren't comfortable talking about it.

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It will always make me sad to think about the fact that the man I love whacks it to images of other women. There's no way I can help feeling that way. I think the best approach is to maintain a don't ask, don't tell policy.

 

And to protect myself and maintain a healthy degree of emotional distance, I will do some female equivalent (harmless, sexy chats with picture exchange, with long-distance fellas I have no intention of ever meeting, for instance -- porn does nothing for me, but this can be hot), and also maintain a don't ask, don't tell policy about that.

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And to protect myself and maintain a healthy degree of emotional distance, I will do some female equivalent (harmless, sexy chats with picture exchange, with long-distance fellas I have no intention of ever meeting, for instance -- porn does nothing for me, but this can be hot), and also maintain a don't ask, don't tell policy about that.

 

So this woman with a small brain thinks that watching porn is same as cheating with other people online with an emotional affair.

 

O......K......

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So this woman with a small brain thinks that watching porn is same as cheating with other people online with an emotional affair.

 

O......K......

Please. While single, I have had some sexy, meaningless fun with a handful of hotties online, and I haven't developed the slightest emotional attachment to any of them. They are always the ones who want to take me out, but I'm not interested. I went through a little phase after my last breakup when I played around a little online, and a year later, some of those men are still inviting me on dates.

 

Believe me, I don't want it to be this way. When I love a man, I only have eyes for him and am not interested in getting any sexual stimulation from other men in any way. But I'm being more realistic now, and figuring out that it doesn't pay to give the kind of devotion I've given in the past.

 

If a man is going to have his "dirty little secrets", a woman would be stupid not to have hers, too.

 

I can feel bad about his porn use, or I can stop worrying about it and indulge in my own harmless fun. Easy choice.

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If a man is going to have his "dirty little secrets", a woman would be stupid not to have hers, too.

 

PORN IS NOT A "dirty little secrets" you talking with other man online IS!

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To tell you the truth

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I will never understand why women are so sensitive about porn and to equate it to having cyber sex and cheating is just asburd. Why is it that the same women who go around championing sexual freedom are the same ones that get so up in arms about porn?

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PORN IS NOT A "dirty little secrets" you talking with other man online IS!

How many men in this thread and others strongly advocate men keeping porn use a secret? I'd say at least half.

 

It's all pixels on a screen. I wouldn't meet or form an attachment to some dude from the Internet while single, and I wouldn't do it while in a relationship -- no more than the guy would develop an attachment to the chicks in porn.

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Masturbation is a one-way exchange of sexual data between yourself and your genitals. Chatting up other people on line is a two-way thing between yourself and your genitals and some other actual person and their genitals, and quite different.

 

Masturbation is not cheating. Chatting up other people sexually is.

 

The two can't be compared.

 

I can understand why men would advocate keeping porn/masturbation a secret - look what happens when they try to be open about it. Men tend to get unnecessarily punished for doing something that is private and natural, so they hide it, for the same reason they hid it from their parents when they were pre-teens and teenagers. Being open is just asking for trouble where none ought to be.

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Masturbation is a one-way exchange of sexual data between yourself and your genitals. Chatting up other people on line is a two-way thing between yourself and your genitals and some other actual person and their genitals, and quite different.

 

Masturbation is not cheating. Chatting up other people sexually is.

 

The two can't be compared.

 

I can understand why men would advocate keeping porn/masturbation a secret - look what happens when they try to be open about it. Men tend to get unnecessarily punished for doing something that is private and natural, so they hide it, for the same reason they hid it from their parents when they were pre-teens and teenagers. Being open is just asking for trouble where none ought to be.

 

Exactly. If my wife wanted to use a vibrator while watching Twilight then no big deal but actually chatting with people online is borderline cheating.

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Masturbation is not cheating. Chatting up other people sexually is.

 

The two can't be compared.

Anything can be compared. And this is your subjective opinion, not fact. I personally see no real difference between the two. I wouldn't care more if my guy were exchanging pics and cybering than I would if he were masturbating to porn. The means are slightly different, but the ends are exactly the same.

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If my wife wanted to use a vibrator while watching Twilight then no big deal but actually chatting with people online is borderline cheating.

And get real. If your wife did that, I wager you'd be ranting about it in two dozen threads.

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And get real. If your wife did that, I wager you'd be ranting about it in two dozen threads.

 

I truly would not care. Do people really not know the diffeence between looking at a screen and actually interacting with a person?

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Every time I'm at my boyfriends house late at night, we'll be flipping through channels and one of the porn channels will pop up.

 

And we'll watch it for about 30 seconds. Then he'll change it.

 

I'm sure he's watched it. I watch it. It's just watching people you don't know get it on. Who DOESN'T want to see it?

 

An ex once told me there are two kinds of men in this world. Those who claim they don't watch porn, and those who claim they're going to stop. Either way, they're lying.

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Plenty of women watch porn too, you know-it isn't just men. Do people think they are cheating on their man when they watch it? :D

 

It is woefully distasteful for a guy to broadcast his porn use to his girlfriend - that shows a lack of class and maturity and is a dumpable offense. Similarly if he is plugged into a porn channel 24/7 then obviously he is a freakish douche.

 

But if he is doing it in private from time to time, to alleviate a bit of stress, boredom, or horniness then for goodness sake, just leave the poor guy alone. Why be so controlling? I don't think it is healthy. Plus, virtually every guy masturbates (surely you are not going to try to stop him doing that?!) and if he wants to think about other women he can use his imagination pretty easily - he doesn't need porn to help him on his way with that.

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Another thing is that the more controlling a woman gets about it the more a man wants to do it. In past relationships when a woman got on my case about something I just wanted to do it more. Currently I can say I have not even looked at a playboy in over a year and it is because I am married to a woman that does not try to control me.

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I get women and I watch porn. What now?

 

True. Before the Internet it was very rare for me to ever get to see porn, in fact for many years it was pretty much non existent in my life. I was horny, really desperate, and really miserable, and I still couldn't get a woman.

 

At least now I have access to porn it's satisfying that part of my life to an extent, and I don't feel as bad.

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True. Before the Internet it was very rare for me to ever get to see porn, in fact for many years it was pretty much non existent in my life. I was horny, really desperate, and really miserable, and I still couldn't get a woman.

 

At least now I have access to porn it's satisfying that part of my life to an extent, and I don't feel as bad.

 

Yeah I found my grandfather's 70's era Playboys and Penthouses in his basement when I was roughly 12, they were amazing. I'd rather them than porn on the internet any day.

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Porn is potentially harmful, the evidence is unquestionable. Take a look at this link:

 

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2010/04/did-porn-cause-the-financial-crisis/39414/

 

17 senior-level employees at the SEC were discovered watching porn while the nation's financial crisis was unfolding. That’s 17 men at one workplace, just among the executive level. This is a rampant problem that goes on in every business in the country where it's not explicitly blocked.

 

If a man is able to justify to himself watching 8 hours of porn while he is at work doing a job that is crucial for the financial security of the country and the world, he is capable of justifying anything.

 

I can't imagine more clear-cut evidence that porn is both harmful and strongly addictive.

 

Sure, some people can use it without much of a problem, just like some people can mess around with any potential addiction without a problem. No one knows how much of a problem it's going to be for them until they try, and by then it's too late for the unlucky ones.

 

And, for the record, I do not personally watch porn. It has been more than a year since I've looked at it at all, and I've only done so about three times in the last seven years. So, anyone who says that all men watch is mistaken, unless they really mean all men have looked at it at some point in their lives which may be true but is beside the main point.

 

For the OP, consider the time you're losing. There are many ways to relieve stress, exercise is an excellent example as is hanging out with your friends in the real world, playing a musical instrument, watching some kind of movie with real dramatic content, etc. You are losing out on all those activities, all of which have beneficial side products, in order to do something which has no beneficial side product. Watching porn is like eating pure sugar, you can get calories from it and it tastes good but there is absolutely no other nutritional content like vitamins, fiber, protein, etc. Why do that to yourself?

 

Scott

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Porn is potentially harmful, the evidence is unquestionable. Take a look at this link:

 

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2010/04/did-porn-cause-the-financial-crisis/39414/

 

17 senior-level employees at the SEC were discovered watching porn while the nation's financial crisis was unfolding. That’s 17 men at one workplace, just among the executive level. This is a rampant problem that goes on in every business in the country where it's not explicitly blocked.

 

If a man is able to justify to himself watching 8 hours of porn while he is at work doing a job that is crucial for the financial security of the country and the world, he is capable of justifying anything.

 

I can't imagine more clear-cut evidence that porn is both harmful and strongly addictive.

 

Sure, some people can use it without much of a problem, just like some people can mess around with any potential addiction without a problem. No one knows how much of a problem it's going to be for them until they try, and by then it's too late for the unlucky ones.

 

And, for the record, I do not personally watch porn. It has been more than a year since I've looked at it at all, and I've only done so about three times in the last seven years. So, anyone who says that all men watch is mistaken, unless they really mean all men have looked at it at some point in their lives which may be true but is beside the main point.

 

For the OP, consider the time you're losing. There are many ways to relieve stress, exercise is an excellent example as is hanging out with your friends in the real world, playing a musical instrument, watching some kind of movie with real dramatic content, etc. You are losing out on all those activities, all of which have beneficial side products, in order to do something which has no beneficial side product. Watching porn is like eating pure sugar, you can get calories from it and it tastes good but there is absolutely no other nutritional content like vitamins, fiber, protein, etc. Why do that to yourself?

 

Scott

 

I hope you're joking.

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I've seen some bad porn.. so yeah it can be bad :)

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I hope you're joking.

 

I hope if you disagree with me you can come up with a better rebuttal than that.

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Masturbation is a one-way exchange of sexual data between yourself and your genitals. Chatting up other people on line is a two-way thing between yourself and your genitals and some other actual person and their genitals, and quite different.

 

Masturbation is not cheating. Chatting up other people sexually is.

 

The two can't be compared.

 

I can understand why men would advocate keeping porn/masturbation a secret - look what happens when they try to be open about it. Men tend to get unnecessarily punished for doing something that is private and natural, so they hide it, for the same reason they hid it from their parents when they were pre-teens and teenagers. Being open is just asking for trouble where none ought to be.

 

Masturbation is not a male only club and is relatively simple. Female sex toys are a $1.5 billion dollar a year industry.

 

Any dudes here come from a family of elephants, know how to vibrate, spin, grow rabbit ears...lol

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I have to say I love my toys and my one-on-self time, that's for sure. Watching some porn just speeds things up a bit when I don't feel like getting carpal tunnel syndrome just from beating off (it takes a long time for me to 'get there' because of various meds, health stuff).

 

I also love the feel of my man's body moving with mine - nothing compares to the weight, the pressure, the smell, the touch - all of it. :love:

 

I'm not sure why people think that it is an either/or thing. They are separate things to me, neither having anything to do with the other. I certainly wouldn't consider beating off to porn 'cheating' or even comparable to cheating in any form. I am fascinated by that 'it is like cheating' mindset, since I can comprehend it but I just don't understand it. I sometimes think my brain is mostly male, in a female body.

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