carhill Posted June 9, 2010 Posted June 9, 2010 Good question.... in the mind of the slut, are those biological imperatives cranking away? Is there a pragmatism to seemingly out of control behaviors? Is there a specific, intended purpose to where sluts hang out? Fascinating. More pieces added to the puzzle. Boy, love sure is blind. Thanks for that.
janie423 Posted June 9, 2010 Posted June 9, 2010 Good question.... in the mind of the slut, are those biological imperatives cranking away? Is there a pragmatism to seemingly out of control behaviors? Is there a specific, intended purpose to where sluts hang out? Fascinating. More pieces added to the puzzle. Boy, love sure is blind. Thanks for that. I would say no, just like that would not be the thoughts of a man who sleeps around to have as many offspring as possible, even though that is the biological imperative.
stillafool Posted June 9, 2010 Posted June 9, 2010 I also find it funny how the same women who go around touting sexual freedom are the same ones who get mad at men who look at porn, go to strip clubs and use prostitutes. A lot of this stuff is just undercover misandry. You can tell women with this mentality have some serious issues with men but instead of coming out and saying it they dress it as empowerment. I don't!
janie423 Posted June 9, 2010 Posted June 9, 2010 Notice I mentioned "theories" in my post. Theories. I expected a harsh male reaction but I never thought my intentions would be so misinterpreted. It seems like some of the male posters have some deep-seated emotional scarring. Notice I didn't call anyone a "woman hater" or a misogynist.
marsle85 Posted June 9, 2010 Posted June 9, 2010 Notice I mentioned "theories" in my post. Theories. I expected a harsh male reaction but I never thought my intentions would be so misinterpreted. It seems like some of the male posters have some deep-seated emotional scarring. Notice I didn't call anyone a "woman hater" or a misogynist. I've been in your seat before, Janie. You're using a scientific-evolutionary approach to the topic (and disregarding your own opinions) to contribute to the discussion... I'm starting to see science doesn't fit here. It's unemotional, unmerciful, and blunt... unlike the posters that inhabit these forums.
Ruby Slippers Posted June 9, 2010 Posted June 9, 2010 Men like me? Yes, Sagetalk the terrible, horrible guy. Who: never lies to women he's dating (even if it benefits me)has never cheated on a womannever pressures them for sexhas never physically hit/pushed a woman in his lifehas never used a girl to get another he really wantednever dated a woman just for sexconstantly tries to protect them even if it means they will hate him for itloves his familywell educatedgreat jobloves childrenonly wants serious relationships and no casual flingsTall, fit, and has a great smile Do you want a medal? In spite of what a great guy you may be, calling ANY women trampy, slutty, or loose makes you not so great, and is a big turnoff to a lot of women. It's an enormous turnoff to me, someone who does not have casual sex and probably has values around sex that align pretty closely with yours (minus the insecurity and fear masked with judgment). If I knew a guy were talking about any women this way, no matter how much he thought they deserved it, I wouldn't want anything to do with him.
TheBigQuestion Posted June 9, 2010 Posted June 9, 2010 Do you want a medal? In spite of what a great guy you may be, calling ANY women trampy, slutty, or loose makes you not so great, and is a big turnoff to a lot of women. It's an enormous turnoff to me, someone who does not have casual sex and probably has values around sex that align pretty closely with yours (minus the insecurity and fear masked with judgment). If I knew a guy were talking about any women this way, no matter how much he thought they deserved it, I wouldn't want anything to do with him. Two things. 1. How are you so sure he's insecure or fearful of anything? 2. You must be awfully sensitive to think that name-calling is never warranted. I suppose you've never done this to anyone, for whatever reason, yourself?
sagetalk Posted June 9, 2010 Posted June 9, 2010 Do you want a medal? In spite of what a great guy you may be, calling ANY women trampy, slutty, or loose makes you not so great, and is a big turnoff to a lot of women. It's an enormous turnoff to me, someone who does not have casual sex and probably has values around sex that align pretty closely with yours (minus the insecurity and fear masked with judgment). If I knew a guy were talking about any women this way, no matter how much he thought they deserved it, I wouldn't want anything to do with him. I won't apologize if calling a trampy woman trampy offends you. She is what she is. I'm not going to pretend she's a white dress bride when she's slept with 20+ guys. To me that is offensive to girls who have actually showed maturity and resisted their primal urges to jump men casually frequently. It's a turnoff to you because it's negative, I understand that, but everything in this world isn't roses and sugar. Sometimes the truth is negative whether it's a turn off or not. If you want men that will always whisper sweetness in your ear without the bitter truth, then you want a boy and not a man. You are dropping the judgment word far too easily. Insecurity actually leads to promiscuity, and I have no idea what you think I fear. If you mean fearing an unfaithful woman and the destruction it brings, then, you might have a point. If you wouldn't date a guy because he punched his mother, wouldn't you be judging him as well? We all use judgements to protect ourselves, the problem comes when you use those judgments to intenionally harm others. I wouldn't call women out in public about being tramps, but I do use it as a measure in choosing a girl to date. If that's judgmental, then everyone in the world is judgmental.
janie423 Posted June 10, 2010 Posted June 10, 2010 (edited) I won't apologize if calling a trampy woman trampy offends you. She is what she is. I'm not going to pretend she's a white dress bride when she's slept with 20+ guys. To me that is offensive to girls who have actually showed maturity and resisted their primal urges to jump men casually frequently. So you're saying that women do have a primal urge to sleep around and because they show restraint you judge them as exempt from harsh labels? And I did read your laundry list of qualities, but the fact that you malign women who do not meet your standards somewhat negates your good qualities. It shows that you have no tolerance for those who do not live according to your standards. If you don't want to date a woman who is sexually active in this fashion, do not date her. But when you berate her, you debase yourself. Edited June 10, 2010 by janie423
janie423 Posted June 10, 2010 Posted June 10, 2010 I've been in your seat before, Janie. You're using a scientific-evolutionary approach to the topic (and disregarding your own opinions) to contribute to the discussion... I'm starting to see science doesn't fit here. It's unemotional, unmerciful, and blunt... unlike the posters that inhabit these forums. perfectly stated . . .
carhill Posted June 10, 2010 Posted June 10, 2010 It's unemotional, unmerciful, and blunt... Yep, I was married to it for a decade. Thank God I'm out of that f*cking prison
Woggle Posted June 10, 2010 Posted June 10, 2010 Just because a man calls out certain women does not mean he is a misogynist. Despite what some women will tell you there are women in this world who are just no good. They will destroy a man's heart with no remorse and then get mad at him when he takes issues. Simply being born female in and of itself does not earn anybody respect. It is earned through actions and character and not what body parts you have.
marsle85 Posted June 10, 2010 Posted June 10, 2010 Accurate or not, am I the only one who cringes every time they see the thread title?
Woggle Posted June 10, 2010 Posted June 10, 2010 Accurate or not, am I the only one who cringes every time they see the thread title? I agree. I am not one to agree with name calling. Women like this are just untrustworthy. I don't like untrustworthy men either but I don't date them and breaking up a friendship costs a lot less than a divorce.
sagetalk Posted June 10, 2010 Posted June 10, 2010 1.So you're saying that women do have a primal urge to sleep around and because they show restraint you judge them as exempt from harsh labels? 2. And I did read your laundry list of qualities, but the fact that you malign women who do not meet your standards somewhat negates your good qualities. It shows that you have no tolerance for those who do not live according to your standards. If you don't want to date a woman who is sexually active in this fashion, do not date her. But when you berate her, you debase yourself. 1. People have primal urges to sleep around. No, I see them as intelligent, respectful of their own bodies, and the potential to be a great faithful mate sexually. 2. Really, so using the word trampy to describe a loose woman negates everything I posted about myself. It doesn't sound like you value my beliefs very much at all. If you go for guys that are lairs, sweet talkers, and in it for the sex, that's your choice there are hordes of girls who feel the same. These words in your post are some harsh, judgmental words coming from someone who seems to be upset by someone judging someone else. What you are really upset about is the thought of a woman's sexual power being taken away from her. I do not view it as that. I view it as her having the power over her sexuality, and that is very attractive .
Chicago_Guy Posted June 10, 2010 Posted June 10, 2010 I think it's great that more and more women are seeing the name calling and insults for what they really are: the expression of fear by men who are threatened because women can do what they want, and choose the sexual and marriage partners they want. I don't have casual sex because the expense is much greater than the payoff for me -- I'd rather just masturbate than put my health at risk and go through all the rigmarole of casual sex. But I have a couple of girlfriends who have casual sex fairly often, and seem to view it just as a good time and a way to have a little fun. As long as they are being safe, I say good for them. In my own experience I have found that a lot of women who don't sleep around think that the ones who do sleep around are whores. Do you think that those women resort to name-calling because they somehow feel threatened by promiscuous women or do you they are just disgusted by the behavior of those women.
Mary3 Posted June 10, 2010 Posted June 10, 2010 Just because a man calls out certain women does not mean he is a misogynist. Despite what some women will tell you there are women in this world who are just no good. They will destroy a man's heart with no remorse and then get mad at him when he takes issues. Simply being born female in and of itself does not earn anybody respect. It is earned through actions and character and not what body parts you have. When are you going to let go of your emotional baggage about women ? You are WITH a wonderful woman now who is unlike the last woman you were with ? Why do emotionally damaged men make EVERY woman on the planet PAY for what someone did to him in 1972 ? ( time warp )
Mary3 Posted June 10, 2010 Posted June 10, 2010 1. People have primal urges to sleep around. No, I see them as intelligent, respectful of their own bodies, and the potential to be a great faithful mate sexually. 2. Really, so using the word trampy to describe a loose woman negates everything I posted about myself. It doesn't sound like you value my beliefs very much at all. If you go for guys that are lairs, sweet talkers, and in it for the sex, that's your choice there are hordes of girls who feel the same. These words in your post are some harsh, judgmental words coming from someone who seems to be upset by someone judging someone else. What you are really upset about is the thought of a woman's sexual power being taken away from her. I do not view it as that. I view it as her having the power over her sexuality, and that is very attractive . I suspect with your HUGE laundry list of what you want from women that you WISH you were more spicy , more jerky with women than you are NOW. You have been reading too many Date Help Sites. Real women don't want spineless wimps NOR do they want total jerkoids. They want a man who is confidant , does not WHINE about what he had / never had/ never wanted/ what he thinks about Whores and Sluts are really insignificant because he is really voicing his distaste and failure as a man in the first place. Guys that want the perfect women put REAL women to sleep....
janie423 Posted June 10, 2010 Posted June 10, 2010 1. People have primal urges to sleep around. No, I see them as intelligent, respectful of their own bodies, and the potential to be a great faithful mate sexually. 2. Really, so using the word trampy to describe a loose woman negates everything I posted about myself. (1) It doesn't sound like you value my beliefs very much at all. If you go for guys that are lairs, sweet talkers, and in it for the sex, that's your choice there are hordes of girls who feel the same. These words in your post are some harsh, judgmental words coming from someone who seems to be upset by someone judging someone else. (2)What you are really upset about is the thought of a woman's sexual power being taken away from her. I do not view it as that. I view it as her having the power over her sexuality, and that is very attractive . 1. Uh, hello, I'm married to a man who did not sleep around, nor did I, as I explained in a previous post. By age 20 I had one partner. I just don't judge women who are into guys you describe, that is the major difference between you and me. 2. And quite honestly I don't know what you are talking about here. You lost me. I don't think you understand female sexuality at all.
Woggle Posted June 10, 2010 Posted June 10, 2010 When are you going to let go of your emotional baggage about women ? You are WITH a wonderful woman now who is unlike the last woman you were with ? Why do emotionally damaged men make EVERY woman on the planet PAY for what someone did to him in 1972 ? ( time warp ) I am married to a great woman and there are more like her but there are many who can make a man's life a living hell. There are plenty of women who want to make every man pay for the sins of some men so it goes both ways.
Mary3 Posted June 10, 2010 Posted June 10, 2010 The title : " Do Sluts hang out with Sluts " ? Is akin to : " Does a man with a 3 inch penis feel happy " ? Its nonsense gibberish. An open attack on women . To decode their sex lives and pass judgement on them. Its not like " Do birdlovers hangout with other birdlovers " Do you think that would get as many responses ?
janie423 Posted June 10, 2010 Posted June 10, 2010 Accurate or not, am I the only one who cringes every time they see the thread title? No you are not the only one. This is an exerpt from one of my earlier posts: "Think about the title of this thread. What exactly is he asking about? Is he interested in "sluts" and therefore may know of one and wants to know if he can identify other "sluts" by association? This OP is bashing women just by the title."
carhill Posted June 10, 2010 Posted June 10, 2010 Wog's, would you say that you 'whine' about things like this IRL? I know I don't. There's no reason to. Like I said, I don't talk about 'sluts' or call women 'sluts' IRL. OMG , the OP is the guy who had the issue with the girlfriend drinking, going to a girlfriend's house to sleep it off, then going to Planned Parenthood in the morning for a STD test appointment. If it's the same lady, and she's the one who's 20 at 20, that would explain his comment in the other thread about a possible 'closet whore'. OP? What's the real story here...???
Mary3 Posted June 10, 2010 Posted June 10, 2010 I am married to a great woman and there are more like her but there are many who can make a man's life a living hell. There are plenty of women who want to make every man pay for the sins of some men so it goes both ways. But it really gets * OLD * after awhile . Not all women are the boot licking , soul raping , executive job stealing harlots that you make them out to be. Post one new thread about something positive you have started. Link it here.
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