Sivok Posted June 7, 2010 Posted June 7, 2010 Dont worry, men who are secure don't think this way. I appreciated that my ex was very sexually adventurous, and didn't think for a second she would be more likely to cheat on me.Yup, I feel the same way. There's nothing worse than a dead fish
Ruby Slippers Posted June 7, 2010 Posted June 7, 2010 Women who are in touch with their sensuality and sexuality are the most powerful women on earth. And most men are threatened by this power. I was just discussing this over dinner tonight with some friends, that in some parts of the world, men are so threatened by and fearful of women's sexuality that they make them shroud themselves head to toe in burqas! It's insane. Only the most secure and evolved men are not threatened by potent female sexuality. They are RARE. I have only been sexual with two such men in my life. No surprise, the sex with them was incredible, just mind bending. At this point, I will not even consider being with a man who has these mental blocks around female sexuality.
Woggle Posted June 7, 2010 Posted June 7, 2010 What is so wrong with being threatened by something that is a threat to you. I don't really care what a woman does in her own personal life but men who don't get involved with these women are pretty much smart. These hangups that men have with getting involved with a woman like this don't just come from nowhere. They exist for very good reasons. Men used to have women that you had fun with and women that you brought home to meet your parents and we knew the difference. This criteria worked and relationships worked much better and still work better for men who apply these standards to their dating life. I am fully aware that I sound like a sexist pig but this approach really does work and I am all about actual hard results instead of sound good rhetoric. Just because something sounds good in theory does not mean that it works in reality. It sounds great for a man to be liberated and open minded about women's sexuality until she is sexually free with his best friend.
A O Posted June 7, 2010 Posted June 7, 2010 Women who are in touch with their sensuality and sexuality are the most powerful women on earth. And most men are threatened by this power. I wonder why. I also wonder why as many women feel threatened by it as men as evidenced by the use of derogatory labels which are as commonly used by women against other women as by men against women. Only the most secure and evolved men are not threatened by potent female sexuality. What is potent female sexuality by the way? .
A O Posted June 7, 2010 Posted June 7, 2010 It sounds great for a man to be liberated and open minded about women's sexuality until she is sexually free with his best friend. Men are hardly allowed to be liberated and open minded about their own sexualities - its little wonder that they maybe ambivalent towards a woman's! .
Woggle Posted June 7, 2010 Posted June 7, 2010 Men are hardly allowed to be liberated and open minded about their own sexualities - its little wonder that they maybe ambivalent towards a woman's! . If I even look at a Playboy I am a disgusting pig but if a woman messes around with my best friend and I take issue with it I am a patriarchal jerk trying to control her.
kdark Posted June 7, 2010 Posted June 7, 2010 Sorry woggle, but sexually free women are the kind of women I try hardest to find. I'm tired of having to educate partners on the joys of great, uninhibited sex.
Woggle Posted June 7, 2010 Posted June 7, 2010 Sorry woggle, but sexually free women are the kind of women I try hardest to find. I'm tired of having to educate partners on the joys of great, uninhibited sex. There is a difference between a woman that enjoys sex and a so called sexually free woman. Learn it.
A O Posted June 7, 2010 Posted June 7, 2010 If I even look at a Playboy I am a disgusting pig but if a woman messes around with my best friend and I take issue with it I am a patriarchal jerk trying to control her. Indeed. Thankfully though, its only some women who think this way. Sorry woggle, but sexually free women are the kind of women I try hardest to find. A persons attitude, to a large degree, is dependent on the other person involved. More specifically, a sexually free man will more than likely impart this attitude on his woman, regardless of whether she was like this beforehand or not. .
kdark Posted June 7, 2010 Posted June 7, 2010 There is a difference between a woman that enjoys sex and a so called sexually free woman. Learn it. A sexually free woman is a woman who is open to a lot of different things sexually, including casual sex, correct? Sounds like exactly what I'm looking for. And I don't believe in the saying, "you can't turn a whore into a housewife."
Ruby Slippers Posted June 7, 2010 Posted June 7, 2010 Men used to have women that you had fun with and women that you brought home to meet your parents and we knew the difference. This criteria worked and relationships worked much better and still work better for men who apply these standards to their dating life. I am fully aware that I sound like a sexist pig but this approach really does work and I am all about actual hard results instead of sound good rhetoric. Woggle, the attitude these statements reveal is grounded in so much fear and fiction that it would be next to impossible for anything I say to change your mind. The only thing I can offer is my own honest perspective. I love sex. I always have. When I am in a relationship, I often think about how to make sex with my man more fun, wilder, more connected, more exciting. I think of the bed (and the whole house) as a playground and our bodies as the play equipment. I happily indulge in my desires for him, and I really do think I have a talent for unleashing men sexually (every one of my serious lovers has told me this ), mostly because I do not judge a man for what turns him on, but delight in indulging his passions. At the same time, I have never cheated, and I never will. In fact, I desire my man more as time goes on and the trust strengthens, and I really do only have eyes for him. I make it my goal to find out what drives him wild, what his fondest fantasies are, and make them come true. I take my commitments to great love and great sex seriously, and I do not betray them.
kdark Posted June 7, 2010 Posted June 7, 2010 Woggle, the attitude these statements reveal is grounded in so much fear and fiction that it would be next to impossible for anything I say to change your mind. The only thing I can offer is my own honest perspective. I love sex. I always have. When I am in a relationship, I often think about how to make sex with my man more fun, wilder, more connected, more exciting. I think of the bed (and the whole house) as a playground and our bodies as the play equipment. I happily indulge in my desires for him, and I really do think I have a talent for unleashing men sexually (every one of my serious lovers has told me this ), mostly because I do not judge a man for what turns him on, but delight in indulging his passions. At the same time, I have never cheated, and I never will. In fact, I desire my man more as time goes on and the trust strengthens, and I really do only have eyes for him. I make it my goal to find out what drives him wild, what his fondest fantasies are, and make them come true. I take my commitments to great love and great sex seriously, and I do not betray them. But of course, you are one of the rare ones, right?
Pyro Posted June 7, 2010 Posted June 7, 2010 I like how certain individuals turned this from a question wondering why men are a certain way into women who enjoy sex are prone to cheating thread. Even questioning a man about something personal makes certain ones insecure.
Woggle Posted June 7, 2010 Posted June 7, 2010 I believe but you are one of the rare ones. Unortunately sexually free has become the term women use who cheat on men left and right with no remorse. I don't know how many times one of my friends has been cheated or I have a heard of a woman cheating on a man and when she is caught and the man gets angry she pulls the sexual freedom card and accuses him of being controlling. I can't go a week without hearing of a case like this. Many men have a better be safe than sorry attitude when it comes to choosing a commited partner and I don't think it is fair to call them sexist for protecting themselves.
Woggle Posted June 7, 2010 Posted June 7, 2010 I like how certain individuals turned this from a question wondering why men are a certain way into women who enjoy sex are prone to cheating thread. Even questioning a man about something personal makes certain ones insecure. Because the cheating issue is very much connected to why some men are a certain way. It is their way of protecting their hearts.
Pyro Posted June 7, 2010 Posted June 7, 2010 I believe but you are one of the rare ones. Unortunately sexually free has become the term women use who cheat on men left and right with no remorse. I don't know how many times one of my friends has been cheated or I have a heard of a woman cheating on a man and when she is caught and the man gets angry she pulls the sexual freedom card and accuses him of being controlling. I can't go a week without hearing of a case like this. Many men have a better be safe than sorry attitude when it comes to choosing a commited partner and I don't think it is fair to call them sexist for protecting themselves. horse$hit. Every week you hear something like that? Must be the voices talking to you again. Once again you choose to believe what you want to believe, even when you go so far to make stuff up now to attempt to prove your bitter and irrational thinking. Log off LS and get some help.....please!
Pyro Posted June 7, 2010 Posted June 7, 2010 Because the cheating issue is very much connected to why some men are a certain way. It is their way of protecting their hearts. I'm a big boy. I can put myself and my heart on the line to find true happiness. If I get hurt. I will pick up the pieces and move on. A much better and more healthy scenario then the life you live.
Woggle Posted June 7, 2010 Posted June 7, 2010 horse$hit. Every week you hear something like that? Must be the voices talking to you again. Once again you choose to believe what you want to believe, even when you go so far to make stuff up now to attempt to prove your bitter and irrational thinking. Log off LS and get some help.....please! Yes every week I hear of something like that. I live in a town with a very busy beach and boardwalk and this time of the year it is packed every night. I can guarantee you that I can go out there and find two men fighting over a woman on any given night.
Pyro Posted June 7, 2010 Posted June 7, 2010 Yes every week I hear of something like that. I live in a town with a very busy beach and boardwalk and this time of the year it is packed every night. I can guarantee you that I can go out there and find two men fighting over a woman on any given night. whatever you say. You like drama just as much as the women you condone for that very reason. Deny it all you want but your posts speak for themselves.
Ruby Slippers Posted June 7, 2010 Posted June 7, 2010 (edited) I wonder why. Well, I think most people are slaves to convention and societal norms and are threatened by any truly liberated person. And a woman who is in charge of her own sexuality, who understands it and embraces it, is one of the most irresistible creatures on earth. She is irresistible to men for how she can make them feel, how she can have them eating out of her hand like a lamb -- and to women because they want to be like her. It's the same for men in charge of their sexuality. People who feel no shame for being the sexual beings they are and enjoying sex to the fullest extent possible are very threatening to those who are repressed. Mostly, the repressed are horribly jealous and afraid they will lose their partners to these kinds of people. I also wonder why as many women feel threatened by it as men as evidenced by the use of derogatory labels which are as commonly used by women against other women as by men against women. Because they don't have that key to liberation themselves, and they are jealous. Calling them names is their petty attempt to make the liberated women as miserable as they are themselves. What is potent female sexuality by the way? Potent sexuality, male or female, is a lack of shame and an embracing of the pleasures of sex. It's confident, it's self-assured, and it's very attractive. Edited June 7, 2010 by Ruby Slippers
kdark Posted June 7, 2010 Posted June 7, 2010 I believe but you are one of the rare ones. Unortunately sexually free has become the term women use who cheat on men left and right with no remorse. I don't know how many times one of my friends has been cheated or I have a heard of a woman cheating on a man and when she is caught and the man gets angry she pulls the sexual freedom card and accuses him of being controlling. I can't go a week without hearing of a case like this. Many men have a better be safe than sorry attitude when it comes to choosing a commited partner and I don't think it is fair to call them sexist for protecting themselves. The scenario you described isn't a sexually free woman. That's a woman who has no morals or loyalty. When I get cheated on, I honestly look at it as a blessing, since I know definitively that I need to leave this person.
Woggle Posted June 7, 2010 Posted June 7, 2010 The scenario you described isn't a sexually free woman. That's a woman who has no morals or loyalty. When I get cheated on, I honestly look at it as a blessing, since I know definitively that I need to leave this person. True but these women still call themselves sexually free. Many of these terms which are in and of themselves positive are coopted by women who do have a good agenda and it causes a backlash.
sweetjasmine Posted June 7, 2010 Posted June 7, 2010 Yes every week I hear of something like that. I live in a town with a very busy beach and boardwalk and this time of the year it is packed every night. I can guarantee you that I can go out there and find two men fighting over a woman on any given night. Seaside Heights? Then the part I bolded is absolutely true. But Wogs, those people are nuts. When I go down the shore, I consider the people-watching a sideshow attraction. More drama than TNT could air in a lifetime. They're not what I'd consider ordinary/normal people. Go northwest a little, and you'll find people who are different.
Ruby Slippers Posted June 7, 2010 Posted June 7, 2010 Seaside Heights? Then the part I bolded is absolutely true. But Wogs, those people are nuts. I know nothing about Seaside Heights, NJ, but did a Google image search and found this: http://www.jaunted.com/files/admin/seasideheightslewdshirt.png I think sweetj might have a point.
Woggle Posted June 7, 2010 Posted June 7, 2010 Seaside Heights? Then the part I bolded is absolutely true. But Wogs, those people are nuts. When I go down the shore, I consider the people-watching a sideshow attraction. More drama than TNT could air in a lifetime. They're not what I'd consider ordinary/normal people. Go northwest a little, and you'll find people who are different. Yes. This place has been a zoo this week. I still love living on the Jersey Shore though. When I was living in New York I saw the same thing so it is not just one area.
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