What is with women and height?

[Els]

You women truly are goofy creatures..Its amazing how shallow as a whole women are but use womenspeak terms to hide it except women like you who blatantly put your foot in your mouth and dont try to hide it..

 

At least when Men look at a hot women we just think"wow shes hot" nothing more we dont put better looking people on moral pedestals like women do..

 

... You mean SHE is a goofy creature, right??

[PJKino]

I look at it as dodging a bullet.

 

If a women is so insecure about herself and her femininity that she cant be with somebody shes the same size as or slightly taller then in huge heels could you imagine whtat type of mental case she is and how insecure she is with actual important issues in life?

[Nikki Sahagin]

Most men prefer slim girls to fat ones.

Most women prefer tall men to short ones.

Most men prefer bigger boobs to a girl with a flat chest.

Its just the way it is. Relationships are initially based on the appearance of a person, otherwise that person is just a friend. Why people complain about people being shallow and superficial when dating is initially about a PHYSICAL appearance, is frankly stupid. If you're short, then get a better personality and you'll find people will like you or wear some high heels like Tom Cruise does. Stop blaming people on being shallow and find people who LIKE you and your height, instead focusing on those that don't, or go borrow your female friends high heels and see where that gets you. Jeez, these 'god i'm so short no-one likes me' threads are getting annoying.

[Nikki Sahagin]

Yah, women always say guys are shallow but when it comes to height, women are the most shallow people in the world.

 

I have never met a girl in my life who does not place emphasis on height and would date someone shorter than them. And, about 75% of the girls I've met won't even date a guy under 6 foot.

 

I'm 6'1 and still there are girls that don't think I'm tall enough.

 

Yah but seriously, what is up with this!

 

Yeah women are the most shallow people in the world, when 90% of visual and thus shallow material is directed at men. Uh, grow up!

[Jerry18]

Most men prefer slim girls to fat ones.

Most women prefer tall men to short ones.

Most men prefer bigger boobs to a girl with a flat chest.

Its just the way it is. Relationships are initially based on the appearance of a person, otherwise that person is just a friend. Why people complain about people being shallow and superficial when dating is initially about a PHYSICAL appearance, is frankly stupid. If you're short, then get a better personality and you'll find people will like you or wear some high heels like Tom Cruise does. Stop blaming people on being shallow and find people who LIKE you and your height, instead focusing on those that don't, or go borrow your female friends high heels and see where that gets you. Jeez, these 'god i'm so short no-one likes me' threads are getting annoying.

 

1. Slim vs. Fat: It's pretty easy to not be fat. Just exercise an hour per day and limit fat consumption.

 

2. Short vs. Tall: It's mostly genetics and what you eat when you're young. We can't control those two things.

 

3. It's a myth that most men prefer big boobs. It's probably fabricated by the bra and plastic surgery industries.

[SincereOnlineGuy]

So, I simply need to vent. I am new to online dating and using Match for the first time. What is with women and height?

 

Let me set the stage, I am 5'8" and stay in very good physically condition. However, not being 6'0" or taller seems to strike me with a lot of women.

 

I understand we all have preferences and I have them as well. But what is with a women 5'0" to 5'2" and insisting upon a man who is 6'0" or taller. From being on match for a month or so, it is pretty consistent.

 

So, to all the women out there, whats up with that?L

 

 

 

It has nothing to do with your height, dude, it's your insecurity.

 

 

There is exactly nobody on this earth who gives a d*** about your height more than you do, the amount of that being a variable controlled almost entirely by you.

 

Common sense would say to just drop the insecurity and stop trying to blame it all on other people.

[Woggle]

Its something i cant explain to a Man,a tall guy makes womens heart melt a feeling of protection from the world and everything harmful in it:love:

 

Plus Tall Men as a whole seem allot nicer and protective of women short guys have a bitter disposition and are angry at the world and dont look to help women and protect them as much

 

This is 2010. Women should be protecting themselves. I swear modern women with all their chest puffing about how independent they are act like the most helples creatures on earth these days. It is not any man's job to protect you from the big bad world.

[Jersey Shortie]

Jerry:

1. Slim vs. Fat: It's pretty easy to not be fat. Just exercise an hour per day and limit fat consumption.

 

3. It's a myth that most men prefer big boobs. It's probably fabricated by the bra and plastic surgery industries.

 

It amazes me how completely clueless men are about real women's bodies. That's why it's hard to take you men seriously when you make false claims about what you do or don't like or when you give advice to women about their own bodies. an who is completely clueless about the female body.

 

Women are naturally more fatty then men. It's not easy for many women to be thin. It's a constant struggle for many women. And it's not just as easy as an hour or exercise per day. Women have more fat and less muscle, this makes it harder for women to loose and keep off weight then men who have both more muscle and less fat naturally. And do you know why women are naturally more fatty? And not just in the idealized body parts as their breasts and butts? Because we are meant to carry kids who need the addtional warmth. So don't sit there and tell me it's easy to be thin as a waoman because it's not. I work very hard at trying to maintain my weight and even then there are times when I gain some extra weight that I need to work off. I go out to dinner with guys or my brother who can heat like a horse and burn it off. If I ate like them, if I indulged in food like them, I would be 300 pounds.

 

If a wife and husband go on a diet together, the man is going to reach his goal first 9 times out of 10 if they are working out with the same level of intensity because loosing weight is much easer for men then it is for women because men have MORE MUSCLE and LESS fat.

[You'reasian]

So, I simply need to vent. I am new to online dating and using Match for the first time. What is with women and height?

 

Let me set the stage, I am 5'8" and stay in very good physically condition. However, not being 6'0" or taller seems to strike me with a lot of women.

 

I understand we all have preferences and I have them as well. But what is with a women 5'0" to 5'2" and insisting upon a man who is 6'0" or taller. From being on match for a month or so, it is pretty consistent.

 

So, to all the women out there, whats up with that?L

 

Women who are relatively short who insist upon having a man 6' or taller probably enjoy the feeling of being protected.

[sally4sara]

At just shy of 5'3", I don't often meet men who are not taller than me.

 

But just as some women seek tall men for different reasons (to feel protected?), some men seek short women and possibly because they like to feel protective even if the woman really doesn't often need protecting.

 

Say I decided to actively seek short men, since men are usually larger than women, I'd be effectively limiting my pool of options. Men are usually taller than women, so liking a man to be taller isn't a huge expectation. In fact, its just a reflection of liking what you're use to.

[sally4sara]

Thought of something:

 

I suggest women seeking taller men, is women tending towards what they are use to.

 

Then comes the wonder of men who prefer very thin women even though it is less common for a woman to remain very thin through her life.

 

Is it out of favoring a woman that lends to him looking larger or capitalizing on appearing more protective?

Is it because men favor a woman of effort?

Is it just a throwback of favoring a woman who will compete less for resource(food) towards their offspring?

[somedude81]

Just because it's harder for women to lose weight then men, doesn't mean they can't. It all boils down to strictly watching what one eats and regularly exercise with weights.

 

This is a very interesting article on the subject.

Why men lose weight faster than women

 

Some excerpts

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Experts on the issue say that because men have more muscle mass than women, those muscles burn more calories while at rest.

 

Everyone has to maintain a certain amount of body fat. But the more fat, the harder it is to shed pounds. Women, on average, have a higher body fat percentage than men. Any amount up to 25 percent is a normal body fat level for women while any amount up to 13 percent is considered normal for men.

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Both men and women have the hormone testosterone, but men have more. Both sexes have the hormone estrogen, but women have more which allows them to bear children, but also contributes to the retention of body fat, doctors say.

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Overall physical fitness also determines who loses weight and how much, or who doesn't.

 

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Dr. Mac Buchowski assistant professor of family and preventive medicine at Meharry Medical College in Nashville, TN, says the difference in physical activity between men and women is the biggest problem with women losing weight slower than men.

 

In a study he conducted, Dr. Buchowski says he found that women spend more time doing sedentary activities - like watching television - than men, who he says participate in activities that require higher levels of energy.

 

Renee Wiggins, registered dietitian and fitness expert in Washington, D.C., explains that while women have more fat than men, the two sexes have the same aerobic capacity, meaning their heart and lungs function about the same. So women just have to work harder than men to lose the pounds.

 

Dixon notes the difference in the amounts of exercise that men and women perform has a lot to do with socialization.

 

"Women will sit, talk and eat over lunch and that can bring about additional weight," she says.

 

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So basically, it's hard for women to lose weight but they still can. Men can't get taller unless they go through a very painful and expensive surgery that has a long recovery time.

 

Also a woman has to be obese for her weight to be a negative factor. Nobody woman or man has an excuse to be obese.

 

The next issue is the whole feeling protected thing. I understand that it's a primal instinct that just stuck around through evolution like the fear of snakes and spiders.

[Engadget]

I've heard women say they want a tall guy, but I'm only 5'10'' and never had an issue getting rejected for it, so it's a bunch of hooey. If you're good enough in every other aspect, a few inches isn't an issue at all.

[Jersey Shortie]

Just because it's harder for women to lose weight then men, doesn't mean they can't. It all boils down to strictly watching what one eats and regularly exercise with weights.

 

I didn't say they couldn't! I probably work ten times harder then most men to keep off weight, and eat less for it. Even if a man can lift more then me or run more miles, it's easier for him in most cases then for me. So to say it's *easy* is bs. To say that women aren't forced to fit into a model that men covet that really isn't all that healthy or natural but has more to do with what popular media has told men to like like sheep, is lame. And the guys here can say that women "do it for other women" but that is such crap. Women do it so a man will acknowledge their presence and find them beautiful. And who are the type of women men pay attention to? The ones that fit the closet to their fantasy perception of what a woman should be. I can love myself all I want, and I do, but if I don't fit into what men like, no one is goign to want me.

 

Facts remain, women have to live up to a standard that naturally goes against their *natural* bodies. Because men don't like what women's bodies naturally are. Alot of you claim you know about womne's bodies but comments like these show the truth. "Proportion" has become a fantasy ideal that has nothing to do with really being proportionate but has to do with a proportion created by mostly, popular male media.

 

When I get some time later on, I will be responding to CaliGuy's post.

Edited June 13, 2010 by Jersey Shortie

[Bangle]

Its something i cant explain to a Man,a tall guy makes womens heart melt a feeling of protection from the world and everything harmful in it:love:

 

Plus Tall Men as a whole seem allot nicer and protective of women short guys have a bitter disposition and are angry at the world and dont look to help women and protect them as much

 

You are right, I am short and angry at the world because narrowminded idiots like you are breathing valuable air.

[AD1980]

I didn't say they couldn't! I probably work ten times harder then most men to keep off weight, and eat less for it. Even if a man can lift more then me or run more miles, it's easier for him in most cases then for me. So to say it's *easy* is bs. To say that women aren't forced to fit into a model that men covet that really isn't all that healthy or natural but has more to do with what popular media has told men to like like sheep, is lame. And the guys here can say that women "do it for other women" but that is such crap. Women do it so a man will acknowledge their presence and find them beautiful. And who are the type of women men pay attention to? The ones that fit the closet to their fantasy perception of what a woman should be. I can love myself all I want, and I do, but if I don't fit into what men like, no one is goign to want me.

 

Facts remain, women have to live up to a standard that naturally goes against their *natural* bodies. Because men don't like what women's bodies naturally are. Alot of you claim you know about womne's bodies but comments like these show the truth. "Proportion" has become a fantasy ideal that has nothing to do with really being proportionate but has to do with a proportion created by mostly, popular male media.

 

When I get some time later on, I will be responding to CaliGuy's post.

 

Just like us short guys are told on here that most women want tall guys but their will be some women who like us for who we are then some of u women should take the same advice.

 

Yes most Men prefer thin women like most of you prefer taller Men nobody is promised of being universally attractive or attractive to anyone..

 

You see seem to be saying Short Men should get over not being attratcive to allot of women yet Men should appreciate and find non thin women attractive because thats how women are built.

[Bangle]

Just like us short guys are told on here that most women want tall guys but their will be some women who like us for who we are then some of u women should take the same advice.

 

Yes most Men prefer thin women like most of you prefer taller Men nobody is promised of being universally attractive or attractive to anyone..

 

You see seem to be saying Short Men should get over not being attratcive to allot of women yet Men should appreciate and find non thin women attractive because thats how women are built.

 

Jersey is a feminist, clearly a man has damaged her beyond repair and that's unfortunate because aside from her anti-men ranting lies a woman who yearns to be loved. Such a waste.

[somedude81]

I didn't say they couldn't! I probably work ten times harder then most men to keep off weight, and eat less for it. Even if a man can lift more then me or run more miles, it's easier for him in most cases then for me. So to say it's *easy* is bs.

I never said it was easy. I hoped by me posting that article that went along with what you stated, that you would understand that I agreed with you. Oh well.

 

To say that women aren't forced to fit into a model that men covet that really isn't all that healthy or natural but has more to do with what popular media has told men to like like sheep, is lame. And the guys here can say that women "do it for other women" but that is such crap.

Men want women who are healthy. That means we don't want somebody who is overweight or underweight.

 

And who are the type of women men pay attention to? The ones that fit the closet to their fantasy perception of what a woman should be. I can love myself all I want, and I do, but if I don't fit into what men like, no one is goign to want me.

I can turn this right back at you.

 

"And who are the type of men women pay attention to? The ones that fit the closet to their fantasy perception of what a man should be. I can love myself all I want, and I do, but if I don't fit into what women like, no one is goign to want me."

 

BTW, the average women gets a ton more action than the average man. Obviously one gender is much more picky than the other.

 

Facts remain, women have to live up to a standard that naturally goes against their *natural* bodies. Because men don't like what women's bodies naturally are. "Proportion" has become a fantasy ideal that has nothing to do with really being proportionate but has to do with a proportion created by mostly, popular male media.

Uh no. I go to a university in California and tons of girls have good proportioned bodies. There are lots of very beautiful girls and none of them have gone through surgery to be that way. Edited June 13, 2010 by somedude81

[AD1980]

I don't get it, why do women yell at the men who lust for celebrities, have you ever met a woman who didn't have some little celebrity crush herself? Do women look away in horror and disgust at Hugh Jackman's unrealistic, 5 hour working out a day body or his very tall height?

 

Women are just as bad as men in this regard. It's worse because women, unlike men, bring their little celebrity crushes into the real world dating scene more often than men do.

 

Women have as much or more celebrity crushes the Men..Theres are creepy they talk about how its their "boyfriend" or how they want to marry somebody they dont even know outside of a tv character..

 

Should all Men compalin that we have to look like hot celebrities because thats what women are attracted to?

 

Women seem to want Men to only have eyes for them but dont want to do the same for their Man..

[allina]

While I don't have any major opposition to online dating, sites like match.com reduce human beings to a checklist. Doesn't that site actually have you check off the exact height, weight, salary, etc. of your desired mate? I think that this "online shopping" style of dating makes people lose a sense of reality. They forget that these are individual people, not some product of our ideal, checked off traits.

[Engadget]

While I don't have any major opposition to online dating, sites like match.com reduce human beings to a checklist. Doesn't that site actually have you check off the exact height, weight, salary, etc. of your desired mate? I think that this "online shopping" style of dating makes people lose a sense of reality. They forget that these are individual people, not some product of our ideal, checked off traits.

 

Exactly why I'm 100% against online dating, it's just not for me. I need to read the person's facial expressions and body language from the start, not weeks in.

[Jersey Shortie]

AD:

You see seem to be saying Short Men should get over not being attratcive to allot of women yet Men should appreciate and find non thin women attractive because thats how women are built.

 

AD, if this is what you got out of what I said, it says more about your personal ingrained perceptions then it does anything about what I really said.

 

Bangle:

Jersey is a feminist, clearly a man has damaged her beyond repair and that's unfortunate because aside from her anti-men ranting lies a woman who yearns to be loved. Such a waste

 

Save your carpel tunnel on someone that respects your opinion. Because Hunney, it's not me. Your wack-a-doo commentary is amusing but completely vapid. Get yourself straightened out.

 

somedude:

Men want women who are healthy. That means we don't want somebody who is overweight or underweight.

 

Please, it's not just about health. If you want to be that naive, you can. But women who deal with society preassures everyday know different.

 

I can turn this right back at you.

 

Of course you can. Becaus that's the heart of the matter. You and the other men here care about *you* first. You don't even try to understand the messages women get sent indpendent of the things men struggle with. It's always about you and what you as men go through. You want to know how I know this? Because of what you and the three other posters decided to focus on in commenting back to me. They were either to mock me or go on about the plight of men.

 

 

Uh no. I go to a university in California and tons of girls have good proportioned bodies. There are lots of very beautiful girls and none of them have gone through surgery to be that way.

 

I have no doubt that you do see alot of pretty girls. I'm not sure what you think this proves or disproves.

 

And on that note, you are talking about 18-21 year old girls that while have mature grown up bodies, haven't really matured into women. Life isn't college.

[Ruby Slippers]

There are lots of very beautiful girls and none of them have gone through surgery to be that way.

Are you sure about that?

 

A few facts:

 

• There were over 10 million surgical and nonsurgical cosmetic procedures performed in the United States in 2008, as reported by the American Society for Aesthetic Plastic Surgery (ASAPS).
  
• Women had over 9.3 million cosmetic procedures, almost 92% percent of the total.
  
• From 1997 to 2008, there was more than a 162 percent increase in the total number of cosmetic procedures. Surgical procedures increased by almost 80 percent, and nonsurgical procedures increased by over 233 percent.
  
• The top five surgical cosmetic procedures in 2008 were: breast augmentation (355,671 procedures); liposuction (341,144procedures); eyelid surgery (195,104 procedures); rhinoplasty (152,434 procedures); and abdominoplasty (147,392 procedures).
  
• The top five surgical procedures for women were: breast augmentation, liposuction, eyelid surgery, abdominoplasty and breast reduction.
  
• Americans spent almost $11.8 billion on cosmetic procedures in 2007.
  

[sweetjasmine]

Please, it's not just about health.

 

Yeah, I agree it's not just about health. Beyond a certain point, you can't tell how healthy someone is by looking at them. Someone who's chubby but who eats well and gets a moderate amount of exercise is a lot healthier than someone with a naturally high metabolism who eats junk food and sits on the couch all day but stays thin anyway.

 

Besides, some women develop unhealthy habits in the effort to become as thin as possible. A woman who over-exercises, limits her caloric intake to less than 1000 calories per day, and subsists on a very narrow range of foods is harming her health. And a woman with an eating disorder might look perfectly healthy, when the behavior she's engaging in is extremely harmful.

 

I think people still make the assumption that skinnier bodies are healthier, unless they're a bag of bones, but it's not necessarily true.

 

Are you sure about that?

 

Didn't you hear? Hardly anyone in California gets plastic surgery.

[somedude81]

Yeah I don't care about the societal pressures that women go though. I'm not the one pressuring them, and they aren't doing it for me, I got my own stuff to worry about.

 

If you or anybody else wants to start making a difference; stop buying magazines with skinny women on the covers.

 

Find ways to take charge of your own matters.

 

Are you sure about that?

You can't be serious. Did you even try to read the post I made? I was talking about girls in college, ages 18-22. I think that less than 1% of girls that age get surgery. Edited June 14, 2010 by somedude81