somedude81 Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 Since the scale has been brought up. A woman is never on a fixed spot on the scale. If woman is overweight she can always lose the weight to move up two or three points. If a woman isn't that pretty, then nice make up/hair and cute clothes can bump her up a couple of spots. If I'm a 5 because of my height, I can never change that. I can possibly become a 6 or 7 if I put a ton of effort into my body and become ripped.
MrNate Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 I conducted a fun study among women at my campus. The results were what you would expect: Overall, women rated the taller man more attractive. And as height increased for the woman, the importance of height of her partner also increased. Not surprising. It's seems this is one of those things women as a whole are more likely to to agree on than not. I think a lot of interesting points can be derived from this, but we can just leave it at that. Good study.
MrNate Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 Since the scale has been brought up. A woman is never on a fixed spot on the scale. If woman is overweight she can always lose the weight to move up two or three points. If a woman isn't that pretty, then nice make up/hair and cute clothes can bump her up a couple of spots. If I'm a 5 because of my height, I can never change that. I can possibly become a 6 or 7 if I put a ton of effort into my body and become ripped. Why wouldn't you? Why not become the best person you can be? I'm surely working on becoming ripped, because I hate shirts. Plus an increase in physical attractiveness never hurts.
PJKino Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 I conducted a fun study among women at my campus. The results were what you would expect: Overall, women rated the taller man more attractive. And as height increased for the woman, the importance of height of her partner also increased. "fun study" if youre a girl or tall guy nothing fun about reminding short guys how undesirable we are thanks
PJKino Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 Not surprising. It's seems this is one of those things women as a whole are more likely to to agree on than not. I think a lot of interesting points can be derived from this, but we can just leave it at that. Good study. not a surprise women worship height
marsle85 Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 "fun study" if youre a girl or tall guy nothing fun about reminding short guys how undesirable we are thanks Give me a break. Apparently you don't need my study to "remind" you how undesirable you are... it appears you remind yourself of that everyday. I guarantee woman find a man's confidence a greater downfall than his height.
PJKino Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 (edited) Give me a break. Apparently you don't need my study to "remind" you how undesirable you are... it appears you remind yourself of that everyday. I guarantee woman find a man's confidence a greater downfall than his height. yer right i know im undesivrable to women i just dont see the point in u posting something like that when u know people here have problems with their height its like throwing salt on the wound and stop wi+th the "confident" ,its such a vague term in the dating world Nobdies always confident or unconfident Edited June 8, 2010 by PJKino
somedude81 Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 Why wouldn't you? Why not become the best person you can be? I'm surely working on becoming ripped, because I hate shirts. Plus an increase in physical attractiveness never hurts. I am. I graduated high school at 120 and I'm now 28 and 160lbs with most of that gain as muscle but fat also came with it. I'm a hell of a lot stronger now then I was back then. Once I hit 170 I plan to start cutting. So I'm doing everything I possibly can to improve my appearance hoping that it will be enough. Though the confidence gain resulting from being bigger may be the most important. Marsle85, you posting that study was basically you twisting the knife. Honestly though, it's my fault for even posting in this damn thread when height is a hot button issue for me. I should be avoiding any and all discusions about height. As long as I don't think about my height I'm totally fine. But when it's brought to my attention, then it really starts to hurt.
counterman Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 I would say not to avoid them but just use to it. These discussions always take place. I like how you are working on your body. When you achieve what you want to and maintain it you feel stacks more confident and it is noticeable. I have friends who put down my other friends for being short. Now even though they may seem to be joking, it is an evident design to make themselves feel good. In terms of dating, these guys are too busy putting down there mates, to have any clue about anything. If someone wants to put you down because of your height, then they should just get it all off their chests and feel good about themselves because you don't care what people think or say. If it's a girl who finds it a dealbreaker, so be it. If she cares what everyone else thinks, you probably wouldn't want to be with her anyways.There are others. My friend who is 5'3" is dating a girl who is 5'6", guess who is jealous of that? Yes, his friends. Spend less time focusing on what others think and things will work out fine.
bittersweet memories Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 I can understand at 5'7 she would want a taller guy. I am 5'6 and with heels that puts me at 5'9. But, women who are 4'11, 5', etc. I don't understand what the problem is with dating a guy 5'8. Exactly!! I'm 5'8 with heels I'm 5'11..I was actually married to someone shorter than me. haha... He was in good shape and good looking but now I want some who is taller close to 6'0 or higher.
Ruby Slippers Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 Marsle85, you posting that study was basically you twisting the knife. Honestly though, it's my fault for even posting in this damn thread when height is a hot button issue for me. I should be avoiding any and all discusions about height. As long as I don't think about my height I'm totally fine. But when it's brought to my attention, then it really starts to hurt. How do you think it feels to read men on here talking about once she hits 25, she's nearly over the hill? We certainly can't stop ourselves from aging. Or if she doesn't have big tits and ass she's undesirable. There's only so much you can do with the body type you're born with. Or she has visible cellulite and is hence gross? Most women -- even thin women -- have some amount of cellulite. More and more women GO UNDER THE KNIFE to change the way they look to fit men's preferences. It's insane! Women by the tens of thousands are getting their breasts sliced open and bags of plastic stuck into their bodies! Botulism TOXIN injected into their faces. Carcinogenic chemicals and tanning beds to be tan. Fat sucked out of their bodies with vacuum devices. This is how much people hate themselves.
Cracker Jack Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 ^Wow! Guys on here say that? Never would've imagined. At the end of the day, it really is a preference that isn't going to be overturned. I'll admit, I was bummed out at first when discussing this here, but I'm not as much anymore. If women desire a tall man, I'm certainly not in any position to fight against it. It's perfectly understandable if that's what they want. All I can do is try to grow (Lol, random puns) in other areas, such as character, and hope I don't get turned away again due to the lack of height, because it sucks. Hope remains.
somedude81 Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 The vast majority of stuff women do to their bodies, they do for themselves. They have their own reasons why they do it. Most men would say that tanning and botox don't help a woman's attractiveness at all and may actually make them look worse. Many men also say fake boobs look terrible. Only a completely shallow guy would pass up a woman because she is only a B cup. That's not even an issue because average size is a C. Have you ever heard anything where a guy refused to date a girl because her boobs were too small? Getting fat sucked out is ridiculous when the only thing that needs to be done is to live and eat healthy. Diet and exercise. Most of the things women do to try and make themselves more attractive are completely frivolous. Yes women start to lose attractiveness as they get older. So do men.
marsle85 Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 You are being too sensitive. My original post recited women found taller men more attractive. I could easily find another study that found women with larger breasts as more attractive. It is not all-encompassing, nor applicable to everyone. The insecurity that you harbor causes you to generalize purely factual (and realistically plausable) information. The second fact I listed reported women with greater height consistently found height as more important. This is not something offensive, or even hard to believe. Wouldn't a man of greater height also consistently report a greater importance to height, regarding his partner? You started a thread looking for validation on a matter that cannot be helped, nor is really a matter of debate for many. Height of human beings (like all other natural instances) operates on a "normal" bell-curve. There are as many short women as short men, which are proportionate to your height. Com'on, now.
besteast Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 yes, it is true that women do not like men who is not taller than her. maybe it is because of height stand for safty?who knows! i do not mind the height, by way, i am tall as a girl.
Pyro Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 If it's a girl who finds it a dealbreaker, so be it. If she cares what everyone else thinks, you probably wouldn't want to be with her anyways.There are others. For those of you crying about height so much, read this.
Chicago_Guy Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 So, I simply need to vent. I am new to online dating and using Match for the first time. What is with women and height? Let me set the stage, I am 5'8" and stay in very good physically condition. However, not being 6'0" or taller seems to strike me with a lot of women. I understand we all have preferences and I have them as well. But what is with a women 5'0" to 5'2" and insisting upon a man who is 6'0" or taller. From being on match for a month or so, it is pretty consistent. So, to all the women out there, whats up with that?L I'm the same height as you. In my own personal experience, I get more attention from women who meet me on real life than I ever would online. The women who date online seem to be much more strict about height.
Chicago_Guy Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 Tall women are generally not very attractive. It depends how tall they are. I think that tall fit women can be very attractive if they are proportionate.
somedude81 Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 You are being too sensitive. My original post recited women found taller men more attractive. I could easily find another study that found women with larger breasts as more attractive. It is not all-encompassing, nor applicable to everyone. The insecurity that you harbor causes you to generalize purely factual (and realistically plausable) information. The second fact I listed reported women with greater height consistently found height as more important. This is not something offensive, or even hard to believe. Wouldn't a man of greater height also consistently report a greater importance to height, regarding his partner? You started a thread looking for validation on a matter that cannot be helped, nor is really a matter of debate for many. Height of human beings (like all other natural instances) operates on a "normal" bell-curve. There are as many short women as short men, which are proportionate to your height. Com'on, now. *See Warlord999's post for my reply, since he said every thing I wanted to. BTW, I didn't make this thread. I would never make a thread that would draw attention to an issue that I feel bad about. I'm trying to get through life without thinking about things that bring my self-esteem down.
cdubs32 Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 Ugh. This is the kind of advice men get all the time--"be confident." What the heck does that mean, exactly? I means don't give a f*ck around women. Act like you would act if no one of any importance to you were around. They say women like d*cks, but it's the confidence part they like. Basically, if you can act a little like an oddball, be funny, but carry yourself in front of her like you could care less what SHE thinks about it.....BAM! there's your confidence, she'll giggle, if there's any physical attraction there at all, you just became THAT much more interesting to her.
CaliGuy Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 To the post regarding women going under the knife to do it for men are ABSOLUTELY WRONG! Women are not getting surgery to "catch a man", they are doing it to compete with OTHER WOMEN. That's as simple as I can make it. As for the women here who are specific about wanting a guy "at least 6' tall" let them have it. Back in the day, it made me laugh because I knew that it was "one less woman in the way of finding Ms. Right". And I have dated women as tall as 6'1". The less time you spend on a woman's requirement and a lot more on focusing on the RIGHT woman, the happier you'll be. There is no geater waste of your time than b*tching, moaning and complaining about a woman who says you don't meet her requirement. I have news for you. She doesn't meet YOUR requirements either -- for many reasons. Let them be and move on. There are billions of women on this planet and most of them couldn't care less how tall you are, what you do for a living and how much money you make.
Engadget Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 To the post regarding women going under the knife to do it for men are ABSOLUTELY WRONG! Women are not getting surgery to "catch a man", they are doing it to compete with OTHER WOMEN. That's as simple as I can make it. As for the women here who are specific about wanting a guy "at least 6' tall" let them have it. Back in the day, it made me laugh because I knew that it was "one less women in the way of finding Ms. Right". And I have dated women as tall as 6'1". The less time you spend on a woman's requirement and a lot more on focusing on the RIGHT woman, the happier you'll be. There is no geater waste of your time than b*tching, moaning and complaining about a woman who says you don't meet her requirement. I have news for you. She doesn't meet YOUR requirements either -- for many reasons. Let them be and move on. There are billions of women on this planet and most of them couldn't care less how tall you are, what you do for a living and how much money you make. Yeah I don't know many guys who want women to undergo plastic surgery. In my case, I wouldn't go near a girl who did it for vanity reasons, it's gross, like Heidi Montag, ick.
CaliGuy Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 Yeah I don't know many guys who want women to undergo plastic surgery. In my case, I wouldn't go near a girl who did it for vanity reasons, it's gross, like Heidi Montag, ick. I personally have dated three women who, after leaving me, they got breast implants. They didn't do it for me, they did it for themselves AND to put themselves in a better position to compete with other women. I personally have had surgery but both were for me and NONE of them were for apperance. One was $5k on lasik (hate glasses!) and the other was to help with fixing another easy problem. Neither were intended for women OR to compete with other men. Bah, I hate the whole thought of competition. It isn't a game to me and you're really not winning a prize winning steer here. You're getting something you basically fought other people for when many people will say about him or her "Yeah she might be hot but I guarantee you, some guy is sick of her crap!" And to tell you the truth, the hotter she is, the more likely I have noticed that she has more bad luggage than a 747....
Jersey Shortie Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 Heidi Montag is an extreme case with enought emotional issues to sink the Titanic but survive with her dual floating devices. And yes that's right Caliguy, women do it compete with other women FOR male attention who respond to a certain visual appeal in regards to women with perfectly sculpted flawless bodies. But we don't do it to "catch other women". We do it so men will like us. Women do so they feel like they are of value enough to have a man be interested in her. Because women want to be and feel beautiful and often the women men go gaga over, even average joes, are Maxim quality girls with perfect bodies that were either implanted or photoshopped. We see it all the time. To claim otherwise is kind of ignorant. How many times a day do we hear that "men are visual"? How many times is a woman out with her man enjoying the day only to see his his eyes wonder to more interesting visual prospects? How many times do men seek out visuals of women in porn with over inflated body parts? How many men go to Hooters? How many men get ridiculous and silly when they see the perfect looking "beer" girls at events? Men that have kids and wives or gfs.... How many men enjo ythe show Two and Half Men? A show that clearly doesn't require much of women other then big boobs and perfect bodies. How many men defend their right to strip clubs? Come on. Get real. Men send strong messages even if you want to try to weedle out of the messages men STRONGLY convey. And to expect women to not respond to those messages is utterly stupid. So don't sit there and act like the way men behave has no lasting affect on what they tell women is important. Don't sit there and act like men have no sway in anything and the body ideas both men and women adopt based on what men show favor for. Don't sit there and act like women only want implants because of other women. Women will do the things men show favor for. Men do not support enough real women with their real bodies. Men support and go gaga over women with sculpted, mechanically enhanced bodies. Both the world and men teach normal women that they should hate their bodies. So yes, women do do it out of reasons of competition so that they can be the one that hopefully grabs the attention of a man. Because we've al lbeen told from men and women since birth how important our looks are to men. When you've had relationships with enough men, dated enough men, you see what is important to them. You see what they give notice to. Men are very easily swayed and distracted by the visual. And often, men feed into it so why shouldn't women aim to be what men want when we want men to adore and like us? It's not like men are sitting around giving rapt support for women with good hearts. Men give rapt support for women with perfect bodies. Then you have the odacity to claim that men have nothing to do with it. That's complete BS CaliGuy. Complete BS.
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