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What Hollywood says is "romantic" is corny at best, creepy at worst

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Don'tWannabeAWannabe Established Member

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Seriously, I think I found the reason why so many guys have trouble dating; movies and television give us TERRIBLE examples of what men are supposed to do in dating and relationships.

 

I JUST saw 2 films which made me cringe; "Hitch" and "Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist" (which I was expecting to be another Superbad or simply because Michael Cera was in it; big disappointment)

 

These films are supposed to be "Romantic" comedies, but there's nothing "romantic" about them. I'm sure if ANY guy did ANY of the things the "heroes" of these movies did for a girl, they'd have a restraining order put out for them.

 

In Hitch, Will Smith (playing a professional dating coach) teaches men to woo women by luring their dogs away from them when they're not looking and pretending to be hit by a car trying to save them. He also suggests buying a walkie-talkie and paying a courier to hand-deliver it to a girl you met at a bar.

 

 

And my favorite, if you like a girl who's constantly surrounded by men kissing her ass, the way to get her attention is to kiss her ass even harder :sick: Not only does this make you look desperate, but this is an invitation to be used.

 

In the beginning of Nick and Norah's infinite play list, Michael Cera's character calls his ex-girlfriend about 20 times a day, leaves tonnes of obsessive voicemails and still sends her hand-painted mix CD's.

 

Girls! How many of you would call the freaking cops if an ex-boyfriend called you 20 times a day, blew up your voicemail and sent you mix CDs?

 

Is this what young guys have to look to for "guidance?" Is this "romance?" This isn't "romance!" It's not "sweet!" It's not "cute!"

 

It's weird, desperate, corny and sometimes downright creepy. No girl in real life would ever fall for the stupid crap guys do in these films.

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that's cos some of these screenplays were written by guys with little to no actual success in dating; so they pen these make-believe worlds where everything done wrong is considered right. lol. and yes, they make terrible points of influence, which is why i've pretty much boycotted much of what hollywood puts out these days. :sick:

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These films are supposed to be "Romantic" comedies

 

I love how you're completely ignoring the second word in that phrase.

 

They're comedies. They're supposed to be kind of ridiculous and amusing. In the opening scene of 'Nick and Norah...', you're supposed to laugh at how obsessed and weird his character is. Not take notes on what to do in real life.

 

Anyone who takes dating advice from a freaking rom com needs help.

 

Honestly, this is like complaining that no guy would ever be able to defeat a bunch of terrorists single-handedly like Bruce Willis in Die Hard and how dare they put such unrealistic things on the screen?

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I love how you're completely ignoring the second word in that phrase.

 

They're comedies. They're supposed to be kind of ridiculous and amusing. In the opening scene of 'Nick and Norah...', you're supposed to laugh at how obsessed and weird his character is. Not take notes on what to do in real life.

 

Anyone who takes dating advice from a freaking rom com needs help.

 

Honestly, this is like complaining that no guy would ever be able to defeat a bunch of terrorists single-handedly like Bruce Willis in Die Hard and how dare they put such unrealistic things on the screen?

 

Listen! Die Hard was a documentary! Got it?!

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Listen! Die Hard was a documentary! Got it?!

 

Oh, you mean like all the Rambo documentaries? Sorry, my bad. I stand corrected. ;)

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Nick and Nora is more about Michael Cera being seen as pathetic by doing all of those things and then the other girl comes along to help get over his ex-girlfriend. But I get what you're saying about movies in general, quite possible this stuff worked in the 40's but in reality it's a fantasy.

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that's cos some of these screenplays were written by guys with little to no actual success in dating[/Quote]Whilst I agree that is true a lot of the time, I'd just like to point out that Nick and Norah's infinite playlist was a screenplay written by a female, based on a novel by a female. Maybe some of this stuff happened to her, who knows. ;)

 

A lot of these films are over the top. They're meant to be funny. They are not always, or even often meant to be taken 100% seriously. There are however themes or elements that run through almost all good romcoms that ring true. But seriously. Don't pick a movie like Nick and Nora if you want dating advice. Yikes.

 

When I watch these films I don't think for one second about advice, or real world application. They're just flicks.

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I've watched Twilight far too many times but really, anybody climbing into my bedroom window and watching me sleep is creepy. And a little embarrassing, I talk. And maybe slightly drool. :o:laugh:

 

Friends and family always yell at me for mocking movies for stuff like that. :p

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Its not the movies either its society. I remember once I tried to give my ex-girlfriend a romantic candle light dinner when she was having a bad day and I see was like, why did you do this? The first time I sent her flowers she liked it, I don't give them to her all the time, but now she doesn't even like them anymore, last time I gave them to her, I was thinking about her at work and got them. She said she was glad that it wasn't in a vase but n a cup because she had so many. She has like five.

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Its not the movies either its society. I remember once I tried to give my ex-girlfriend a romantic candle light dinner when she was having a bad day and I see was like, why did you do this? The first time I sent her flowers she liked it, I don't give them to her all the time, but now she doesn't even like them anymore, last time I gave them to her, I was thinking about her at work and got them. She said she was glad that it wasn't in a vase but n a cup because she had so many. She has like five.

 

Maybe she just isn't into flowers all that much.

 

On the topic of hollywood, I agree that most of the "romantic" ideas in the movies are completely out there.

 

Look at a few that have been out recently" Twilight, the girl lead is mopey all the time and spends most of her time keeping house for her dad or reading Jane Austin novels. The guys in her life tend to treat her like crap and make her feel bad about herself but she chases them anyway and even does dangerous things to get their attention. I wont even get into the pretty sparkly vampires.

 

Knocked up: A one night stand leads to a pregnancy, happens more often than most want to admit. What never happens is the pregnancy leads to a relationship with the happy couple taking the baby home together. Nor have I seen a guy who is basically an unemployed loser decide to grow up, get a real job, and be responsible just because he was having a kid.

 

These movies aren't a reflection of dating reality, if anything they are written by and for people (mostly women) who are bad at dating and they are fantasies of how life could work.

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