WTRanger Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 There is a difference between a gentleman and a doormat. The prototypical "nice-guy" is a flat out, spineless, doormat. The gentleman has one thing all nice guy doormats wish they had, and that's a nice and strong spine. This "I'm such a nice guy so why am I so lonely" crap is so worn out and old on this board. You are lonely because you have no drive, no ambition, and act like asking a girl out is the biggest thing on the face of this plant. And, oh God forbid, she rejects you then she must be a stuck-up, materialistic, bitch. I love the fact that guys who haven't been laid since Clinton was President think they know so much about women.
USMCHokie Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 I guess I just have a more realistic view of things. I am not knocking you but I can't unsee what I have seen. Only through your eyes. And even if you've lived 10 lifetimes...you ain't seen sh*t.
Woggle Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 if you really wanted to I bet you could. You are making excuses. Is it too difficult to try, or do you enjoy being bitter? We are practically the same age, so your views are no more realistic than mine. Life has both happy and sad endings. We are the same age but have vastly different experiences. I feel like an old man sometimes. I really do.
Pyro Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 We are the same age but have vastly different experiences. I feel like an old man sometimes. I really do. besides your mom and her story and your crazy ex, we are one in the same. You have no idea what I have experienced, just like I don't for you (except what we post) so you are just guessing that our experiences are different.
Woggle Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 I am sorry if I insulted you sweetjasmine because that was not my intention but men and women do have vastly different experiences in love. We truly cannot relate to each other. Yes women get cheated on but do men tell you that you deserved it because now it is payback time. That is what i was told when I was cheated on. Do you have to worry about a man losing attraction if you treat him too well or show any vulnerability. I walk on eggshells around my wife because I am afraid if I appear too femine that she will no longer be attracted to me. Women also get custody of the kids most of the time so even if a man does not want she just loses him. A woman can snap her fingers and all of a sudden a man loses everything he holds dear.
Woggle Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 besides your mom and her story and your crazy ex, we are one in the same. You have no idea what I have experienced, just like I don't for you (except what we post) so you are just guessing that our experiences are different. Maybe we have the same but I don't know anybody who goes through this unscathed. There are things I have no posted on here as well.
Pyro Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 Maybe we have the same but I don't know anybody who goes through this unscathed. There are things I have no posted on here as well. In all seriousness, would you feel relieved if you weren't married anymore? You said that you have to walk on egg shells with her. A happy marriage is nothing like that.
Woggle Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 In all seriousness, would you feel relieved if you weren't married anymore? You said that you have to walk on egg shells with her. A happy marriage is nothing like that. No I wouldn't. I love her and I want a happy marriage but I wish I could breath and be myself instead of worrying about doing something that causes her to lose attraction.
Pyro Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 No I wouldn't. I love her and I want a happy marriage but I wish I could breath and be myself instead of worrying about doing something that causes her to lose attraction. In all honesty again if you ever want to be truly happy with her and to be able to breate and be yourself, you are going to have to exhale some and open up to her. I would say her over a professional, and if she chooses to betray you after that, then she is the one with the issues and not you. Or you can continue to hold it all in and be where you are at right now.
DanielMadr Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 ...... Man, you are like the biggest f@king Mega Troll. It is so funny. Your self pity is killing you. Grow up. Just because you can't have one (because you are the biggest pussy) does not mean you have to be the opposite to get some. It is just your brain feeding you BS excuses for being a pussy and holding you in comfort zone of little boy. How I know you are not a Man of worth and girls won't like you? Because I wouldn't follow you to a battle. Heck, I wouldn't even want you beside me or even behind me. Grow up. Man up. Take responsibility. NUT UP or SHUT UP
DollWelch Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 I'm going to raise him to be the most disrespectful, nasty human being ever known to man. He is going to be huge misogynist, physically and emotionally abusive to women, drugs very early on, sports a priority over school. A general bad ass with a "I don't get a fck" attitude. Society already has too many of these 'men' out there ! (Might explain human idiocy) Example/Front Runner Up: Jesse James. IF you EVER have such a child, you'll be a dead father. Simply because 'they' (-i.e. gangs, etc) will eventually behead you for engaging and promoting such lowlife beings/acts. Good Luck !
Woggle Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 Jesse James is scum but I bet he will have no problem getting women even with recent events.
Disillusioned Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 I don't whine or complain: I do something about it, and then everyone else whines that I'm not playing fair. Let me make one thing nice and sparkling clear (so listen up, DanielMadr, OpenGL, and Woggle): there are pigs, there are decent guys, there are Niceguys , and there's me. If I can't have a woman I'm attracted to, well then maybe that's her loss, not mine. That's why I "have everything going for me (to hear my friends and neighbors tell it)", but yet I own a Realdoll. If it was sex I wanted, then believe me, I'd get some whether it was legal or not. Sure, I can be a bastard, but only to people who do me some dirt. Do unto me, and I'll do unto you. Now, that said... the problem with the way men were brought up (at least in my generation) was not with the parents, it was with the teenage friends. I'm talking about the cliques in school, which probably included a few juvenile delinquents, who were always pressuring the rest of us to go out and have all the sex humanly possible, use dope, punch out our old man, and get tossed into jail before our 18th birthday so we can get some hair on our chest. Realguys with their pissy ol' beer, macho BS, and insatiable sexual appetites, are no different in my eyes from Niceguys ... both are jerks.
soserious1 Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 (edited) Jesse James is scum but I bet he will have no problem getting women even with recent events. Yeah and? look at the types of women he's interested in. All these types of threads crack me up, just because we are attracted to somebody doesn't obligate them to be attracted to us in return. None of us are owed sex, love, companionship. The OP's basic MO here is "Sexor me .. or else I'll behave like a total social misfit" Edited June 4, 2010 by soserious1
Mme. Chaucer Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 Don't worry, fellow shackers; once OpenGL has his hair and chin implants and prosthetic legbone surgery, or whatever, he will have a whole new outlook on life. He will be feeling the love!
marsle85 Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 I do think this board is very much a microcosm of male/female relationships. It is also what I see offline as well. It is to the point when I see a man proposing to a woman it looks like a sheep marching to the slaughter. Sorry, but this site is NOT close to being an accurate representation of male and female relationships. I think we're all nuts, why drag everyone down with us? Secondly, yes- I do have plans to shave my man. I prefer the fleshy young ones so I can eat them after our ceremonial sacrifice.
EmperorR Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 This thread is the truth, if I ever have a son I'll teach him to be a mgow. To never trust a woman more than 75 percent, and to never get married.
EricaH329 Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 This thread just proves my opinion on how there needs to be an extensive psychological evaluation before being able to reproduce.
Nikki Sahagin Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 No-one, male or female, is owed or guaranteed love or sex. No-one is guaranteed a long-lasting relationship. A relationship has a lot to do with luck and chemistry; it really has very little to do with anything else. The biggest lie anyone is told, is that there is someone out there for everybody. Not everyone is destined for marriage or kids or love, not everyone finds it, and many people will end up divorced, or cheated on or with their partner leaving them or losing them to illness etc, this is life. Even if you find love, i'm sure you will find ways to terrorise yourself with 'buts' and 'what ifs' and end up projecting this onto your partner and hating her. If you believe in yourself, it wont matter what comes you're way, you will know you can survive and as soon as you stop living in fear, fear of being alone, or not being a good enough man or that you were lied to or that women will never love you because they are stupid or whatever else, you will enjoy life and be happy. No-one HAS to be attracted to you, like you or even love you. And the hardest rule of life is: Being nice, a nice guy or a nice girl doesn't get you respect. What gets you respect is believing in yourself and standing up for yourself. Being a nice guy to a woman and then slagging off that she won't put out for you - well you aren't that nice if you're expecting something are you?
Author OpenGL Posted June 4, 2010 Author Posted June 4, 2010 Great article which basically proves what I'm saying to a certain extent though it is not as harsh (and not as accurate) as my OP: http://www.allstardatingtips.com/difficulties.html Highlights from the article: When did dating become so difficult? Why did it become so difficult? How come fewer singles are finding that special someone? The answer is both simple - bad advice. And complex - a rapidly changing society. Most people get their first dating advice from their parents. Most likely, it's from their mother. Her ideals are drilled into your mind as you reach adolescence. She advises you on what to do to spark attraction and land a date with that beautiful boy or girl from school. Unfortunately, that advice is almost always wrong. Your parents love you. But few have evolved to meet the dating needs of the following generation. Their dating experience is outdated. Their knowledge is no longer relevant. Their advice is often more harmful than helpful. Times were simpler, choices fewer and expectations lower, in decades past. Most parents haven't adjusted to today's views on dating. What used to be considered 'sweet' is now considered 'stalking.' What used to earn a wedding ring, now isn't enough to convince someone to pick up the phone. And a biggie: Parents then compound their children's dating troubles by uttering the most damaging words plaguing singles today, when they discover their dating advice isn't working. Instead of questioning the quality of their own advice, they tell their child, "Don't worry. When it's supposed to happen, it will happen." The truth is - it won't. If you're not out there actively looking and approaching other singles, you're going to stay single... for a really long time. Which is basically part of what I said from the OP. Completely garbage advice and bad parenting in regards to dating. I'm starting to really hate my mom for filling me with this garbage that is going to take me many years to get out of my head. I really screwed up by having respect for women ingrained in my subconsciousness.
Krytie TV Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 I'm sorry but who the hell asks their mom for dating advice? That had me cracking up. If you're looking to your mother for dating advice (as a man) while you're in your 20s or 30s then you do indeed have huge problems.
Author OpenGL Posted June 4, 2010 Author Posted June 4, 2010 I'm sorry but who the hell asks their mom for dating advice? That had me cracking up. If you're looking to your mother for dating advice (as a man) while you're in your 20s or 30s then you do indeed have huge problems. Are you this dumb? This is about how we are rasied as a adolescent boy and how we are conditioned growing up, not in our 20s and 30s. Re-read the OP and the article.
Krytie TV Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 Great article which basically proves what I'm saying to a certain extent though And sorry, but if you think another whiny man's article is proof of anything other than the fact that the man is, in fact, whiny, you need more guidance than just dating.
Krytie TV Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 This is about how we are rasied as a adolescent boy and how we are conditioned growing up, not in our 20s and 30s. Re-read the OP and the article. Damn... my mom was never my source of dating knowledge. I frankly can't fathom that idea either. Weird. Just stop being so weak. You'll never amount to anything as long as everyone else is to blame for the Hell you apparently live.
VertexSquared Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 Guys, OpenGL is trolling you. Ignore and move on.
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