runner Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 Get a higher education and get a stable and high income 9-5, a house, and a white picket fence. ... ... It's a crock of sht. I know it and you know it. the rest of it is obviously just another bitter rant, but there is a valid argument to be made about this part of it.
Woggle Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 so how soon before your wife cheats on you? She is different. I said before that I think she has a male brain because her mentality and thought process is so different from most women.
Pyro Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 She is different. I said before that I think she has a male brain because her mentality and thought process is so different from most women. well guess what? You don't know most women, so stop generalizing.
Woggle Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 I have discussed the guy I know who lives in an RV and pretty much gets high and drunk a lot of the time. People can knock but he honest to god seems happier than most hardworking family men I know. People need to stop trying to live up to the standards of people who do not have their best interests in mind.
seekandfind Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 No they settle for a nice guy and then end up cheating on him when some smooth player flirts with them. They are never actually happy with these good guys they end up with. Do you actually read the posts on this board from countless women who do just that? If they stay single they usually end up bitter manhaters who make all men pay for the actions of the players. This means that the nice guy was either a boring doormat, extremely unlucky (some good girls make horrible mistakes sometimes), or he married the wrong girl...
sweetjasmine Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 I said I disagreed with that part but if I had a son I would much rather he be a player than be some faithful husband that is betrayed and treated like garbage. Yes, we get it, you like to justify your desire to treat people like garbage and you think men are justified in treating women like garbage because your mother treated you like garbage. Jesus christ, get help already.
sweetjasmine Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 Not so. As I said earlier, women's attraction to jerks fades fast as they start to get a little older. Lots of women in their teens and early twenties may lust after the swaggering, hyper-macho, love-'em-and-leave-'em jerks. But women in their late 20s, 30s, and beyond are much less impressed by men like that. Wait a few years and you'll see I'm right. Early twenties here, and I don't find swaggering, hyper-macho jerks attractive. I never have. But I'm also not attracted to self-pitying doormats who get bitter, resentful, and angry when they don't get sex in exchange for holding the door open and not acting like an a-hole.
BeautifulMan Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 Explaining anything to the inferior minds of women is meaningless. There are only few who can sense the aura of a true god in human form. Only then will she kneel down to the power of such a man, the rest shall remain forever lost drifting in the deep abyss we call the universe.
Woggle Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 Yes, we get it, you like to justify your desire to treat people like garbage and you think men are justified in treating women like garbage because your mother treated you like garbage. Jesus christ, get help already. I never said that but after reading the posts on this forum can you deny that there is at least some truth to what I say?
Pyro Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 I never said that but after reading the posts on this forum can you deny that there is at least some truth to what I say? yes Woggle SOME women can be like that. You ask that same question in every thread.
sweetjasmine Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 I never said that but after reading the posts on this forum can you deny that there is at least some truth to what I say? After reading posts on this forum, I've come to the conclusion that there are a lot of damaged individuals out there who insist on seeing everything as men versus women and who are incapable of looking at people as PEOPLE and not objects or walking stereotypes or members of group X or Y. I've also come to the conclusion that there are a lot of damaged individuals who are prone to manipulation or being manipulated. People who are prone to using others and being used. The difference between you and me is that I see it as "people with this type of problem/issue/hang-up have a tendency to do this" whereas you always, ALWAYS see it as "everyone of gender X always do this". Reading LS threads has reinforced my belief that well-adjusted people tend to attract well-adjusted people while people with issues tend to attract people with issues. Woggle, until you deal with your own issues, all you're ever going to see is gender war this, women are evil that, men are oppressed, etc. no matter what you read or look at.
Woggle Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 yes Woggle SOME women can be like that. You ask that same question in every thread. I aks that same question because a lot of men need to open their eyes. They look at the posts on here then still try to argue with me when I point out the obvious.
sweetjasmine Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 I aks that same question because a lot of men need to open their eyes. They look at the posts on here then still try to argue with me when I point out the obvious. Okay, let me ask the obvious question that I've already asked you a dozen times: do you think people in healthy, happy relationships would seek out a relationship advice forum and then post lots of threads about how happy they are and how functional and healthy their relationship is? Sampling error, plus confirmation bias. It's like going into intensive care at the hospital and saying, "See?! I told you everyone in this state is seriously ill!"
Woggle Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 After reading posts on this forum, I've come to the conclusion that there are a lot of damaged individuals out there who insist on seeing everything as men versus women and who are incapable of looking at people as PEOPLE and not objects or walking stereotypes or members of group X or Y. I've also come to the conclusion that there are a lot of damaged individuals who are prone to manipulation or being manipulated. People who are prone to using others and being used. The difference between you and me is that I see it as "people with this type of problem/issue/hang-up have a tendency to do this" whereas you always, ALWAYS see it as "everyone of gender X always do this". Reading LS threads has reinforced my belief that well-adjusted people tend to attract well-adjusted people while people with issues tend to attract people with issues. Woggle, until you deal with your own issues, all you're ever going to see is gender war this, women are evil that, men are oppressed, etc. no matter what you read or look at. Maybe so but I look at some of these threads from men who have walkaway wives who cheat and from women who have good men that they seem to despise and I get chills down my spine thinking it can happen to me. Being a woman you really don't understand how discouraging this is to a man who genuinely wants a happy relationship with a woman.
Pyro Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 I aks that same question because a lot of men need to open their eyes. They look at the posts on here then still try to argue with me when I point out the obvious. that is because no one can take you seriously because you have a one track mind and very rarely will listen to anyones advice, except for those whom share your bitter jaded views.
USMCHokie Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 You won't have to worry about your "son" being that way because he won't be tall enough to ever get a date. For the f'in win...
Woggle Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 Okay, let me ask the obvious question that I've already asked you a dozen times: do you think people in healthy, happy relationships would seek out a relationship advice forum and then post lots of threads about how happy they are and how functional and healthy their relationship is? Sampling error, plus confirmation bias. It's like going into intensive care at the hospital and saying, "See?! I told you everyone in this state is seriously ill!" I do think this board is very much a microcosm of male/female relationships. It is also what I see offline as well. It is to the point when I see a man proposing to a woman it looks like a sheep marching to the slaughter.
Pyro Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 Maybe so but I look at some of these threads from men who have walkaway wives who cheat and from women who have good men that they seem to despise and I get chills down my spine thinking it can happen to me. Being a woman you really don't understand how discouraging this is to a man who genuinely wants a happy relationship with a woman. I've been single two different times during my stay here on LS and I never once got scared after reading any threads like that. Why? Because I am able to differentiate people and not group them into one large group of cheaters/misandrists. You have no idea how relaxing, and happy I am because of that.
Pyro Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 I do think this board is very much a microcosm of male/female relationships. It is also what I see offline as well. It is to the point when I see a man proposing to a woman it looks like a sheep marching to the slaughter. I rest my case.
Woggle Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 I've been single two different times during my stay here on LS and I never once got scared after reading any threads like that. Why? Because I am able to differentiate people and not group them into one large group of cheaters/misandrists. You have no idea how relaxing, and happy I am because of that. There is part of me that envies you for being that way because I can't unlearn what I have learned. After what I have experienced and witnessed there is no going back. It seems like you have a good woman though and judging by some of her posts she seems fair minded towards men which is already a step up from most women.
Pyro Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 There is part of me that envies you for being that way because I can't unlearn what I have learned. After what I have experienced and witnessed there is no going back. It seems like you have a good woman though and judging by some of her posts she seems fair minded towards men which is already a step up from most women. I was cheated on back in the day. I was hurt and betrayed and I got pissed. If I can get passed that behavior, then surely you can. You say that you have a good woman as well, so why can't you get past the issues like I was able to?
Woggle Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 I was cheated on back in the day. I was hurt and betrayed and I got pissed. If I can get passed that behavior, then surely you can. You say that you have a good woman as well, so why can't you get past the issues like I was able to? I guess I just have a more realistic view of things. I am not knocking you but I can't unsee what I have seen.
Pyro Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 I guess I just have a more realistic view of things. I am not knocking you but I can't unsee what I have seen. if you really wanted to I bet you could. You are making excuses. Is it too difficult to try, or do you enjoy being bitter? We are practically the same age, so your views are no more realistic than mine. Life has both happy and sad endings.
sweetjasmine Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 Maybe so but I look at some of these threads from men who have walkaway wives who cheat and from women who have good men that they seem to despise and I get chills down my spine thinking it can happen to me. Being a woman you really don't understand how discouraging this is to a man who genuinely wants a happy relationship with a woman. Ugh, please. Give me a break, Woggle. You're better than this. If it gives you chills and scares you, DON'T READ IT. Why are you torturing yourself? Why not actually stop reading those threads and go hug your wife? And this: Being a woman you really don't understand how discouraging this is to a man who genuinely wants a happy relationship with a woman. ...is INCREDIBLY insulting. Do you really think women don't get cheated on? Or that they don't worry about it? Or that they don't "genuinely want a happy relationship" with a man? Yes, I really don't understand what it feels like. Even though I'VE BEEN CHEATED ON. But, hey, I must've been cheated on by another woman and not a man because only women cheat on good people, and only men have to deal with betrayal and heartbreak. Keep on fighting the good fight against women, gender warrior.
USMCHokie Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 There is part of me that envies you for being that way because I can't unlearn what I have learned. After what I have experienced and witnessed there is no going back. It seems like you have a good woman though and judging by some of her posts she seems fair minded towards men which is already a step up from most women. And herein lies the problem. Many people, like OP, make the pretentious assumption that their collective experiences form some sort of complete truth. Far from. Your experiences are merely a nanoscopic sample of the population. Of course you will draw on the similar experiences of others, as you've seen in this thread with a few of the more bitter members, in support of your views, while you ignore the experiences of those who oppose your views. I see it every time one of these bitter threads comes up. It's actually kind of childish...
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