OpenGL Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 (edited) Our parents (especially our mothers) and the media pretty much lie to men from birth about how to be respectable human being to the opposite sex. Be a gentlemen to women and treat them with respect. Be honest and truthful. Take school seriously, don't hang out with the "wrong" crowd or get into drugs. Get a higher education and get a stable and high income 9-5, a house, and a white picket fence. This is pretty much what our mothers and the media tells us we need to do to be a desirable male to the opposite sex. But guess, what? It's a crock of sht. I know it and you know it. If I *EVER* have a son (big if, I couldn't imagine a woman letting me impregnate her), I'm going to raise him to be the most disrespectful, nasty human being ever known to man. He is going to be huge misogynist, physically and emotionally abusive to women, drugs very early on, sports a priority over school. A general bad ass with a "I don't get a fck" attitude. I'm going to make sure he NEVER goes though the crap I went though. I'm making sure he is raised right in today society (sadly). After living this life for so long I can with experience say it's worse living as a decent human being without companionship than to live a life as complete bad ass, deadbeat father of 8 kids, covered with tattoos and constant smell of jack denials on my breath with a endless line of women lined up. Serious. Edited June 5, 2010 by a LoveShack.org Moderator
Lakeside_runner Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 After reading it and thinking about it for a minute... I HOPE YOU'LL NEVER HAVE A SON. Why punish an innocent child for all what has happened and is happening to you. After reading some of your posts, I'm really starting to believe that you're just constantly sabotaging yourself.
Author OpenGL Posted June 3, 2010 Author Posted June 3, 2010 After reading it and thinking about it for a minute... I HOPE YOU'LL NEVER HAVE A SON. Why punish an innocent child for all what has happened and is happening to you. After reading some of your posts, I'm really starting to believe that you're just constantly sabotaging yourself. Punishing the child would be raising him the same way my mother raised me.
carhill Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 Yeah, I gotta admit I was role-modeled (by both my father and mother) completely wrong for our modern society. The really cool thing about the natural selection process is, apparently, such genes are selected for extinction, so evolution is preserved. Hey, happy to do my part. Interesting how the choices of the few affect the lives of the many....
witabix Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 That is quite an amount of hostility openGL. I got the same kind of messages, maybe not picket fences but in the ball park. I am respectful and a gentleman towards women not because they deserve it, after all I do not know every woman, but because I want to be. I am a gentleman, if a woman treats me with disrespect that is her issue. It does not follow that all women should henceforth be treated disrespectfully. I have children, my sons will and do treat women with respect, my daughters will and do treat men with respect, and they will all expect to be treated in the same fashion. Don't let some bad stuff colour your rest of your interactions with negativity, it is not good for you.
brainygirl Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 Wow, just wow. How about having a little self respect and pride in your own self for a minute? How about looking at YOUR behavior and attitudes in relationships and seeing what YOU'VE been doing in these relationships that contributed to the bad outcomes. Are you only hitting on "hot but unavailable" women? Hit on a different sort of woman. Are you coming on too strong too fast? Slow the eff down. Are you too distant or does your bad attitude turn women off? Find a way to adjust the attitude.
ADF Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 Your post reeks of bitterness, which I don't doubt you acquired through a series of very harsh experiences. I'm sorry you've had to endure so much shabby treatment. But consider a couple of things. The stereotypcial "macho man"--the swaggering, cocky, love-'em-and-leave-'em jerk--is a powerful image of what it means to be a "real man" in our society. It is isn't the only image, but it is a pretty dominant one. That means that some women, to some extent, are drawn to men who live up to this standard. Even if they don't always like the way such men treat them, it is burned into their brains that is how men are supposed to be. Second, women's attraction to jerks definately wanes as they grow older. Women in their late teens and early twenties may find guys like that attractive. However, women in their late twenties, early thirties and beyond are a lot less impressed.
Serenitynow Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 Make sure you name him Sue, like the Johnny Cash song that will help keep him tough
daphne Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 After living this life for so long I can with experience say it's worse living as a decent human being without companionship than to live a life as complete bad ass, deadbeat father of 8 kids, covered with tattoos and constant smell of jack denials on my breath with a endless line of women lined up. Unfortunately, at this juncture in my life I can totally relate. My dad raised me to be a better person than he could be, and I find that I'm looking around and no one gives a sht and why do I? On top of that, if I can be judged by those incapable of living up to the standards that I set for myself, the world's a really jacked up place. I still think you're a weirdo tho.
brokenblade Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 (edited) Our parents (especially our mothers) and the media pretty much lie to men from birth about how to be respectable human being to the opposite sex. Be a gentlemen to women and treat them with respect. Be honest and truthful. Take school seriously, don't hang out with the "wrong" crowd or get into drugs. Get a higher education and get a stable and high income 9-5, a house, and a white picket fence. This is pretty much what our mothers and the media tells us we need to do to be a desirable male to the opposite sex. But guess, what? It's a crock of sht. I know it and you know it. If I *EVER* have a son (big if, I couldn't imagine a woman letting me impregnate her), I'm going to raise him to be the most disrespectful, nasty human being ever known to man. He is going to be huge misogynist, physically and emotionally abusive to women, drugs very early on, sports a priority over school. A general bad ass with a "I don't get a fck" attitude. I'm going to make sure he NEVER goes though the crap I went though. I'm making sure he is raised right in today society (sadly). After living this life for so long I can with experience say it's worse living as a decent human being without companionship than to live a life as complete bad ass, deadbeat father of 8 kids, covered with tattoos and constant smell of jack denials on my breath with a endless line of women lined up. Serious. You too, eh? My mother lied to me saying I should brush my teeth Eat right. Not to stab myself Don't play with fire. Asthma attacks are not good to have If I ever have a son (more like "when" because I have a couple of women stalking me:p) I will raise him right. I have lived my whole life and I can say that it is worse living as a fairly healthy human being than to be a stank breath rotten teeth or toothless bloody burnt piece of pulp that can't breathe with an endless line of oblivion lined up. Seek Help. Edited June 5, 2010 by a LoveShack.org Moderator
Krytie TV Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 The word pathetic comes to mind. The reasons for your trouble with women are becoming oh so obvious and trust me, it has little to do with "nice guy" syndrome.
betamanlet Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 How about just be yourself and if that doesn't get you women, so be it?
Pyro Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 (edited) You won't have to worry about your "son" being that way because he won't be tall enough to ever get a date. Serious. Edited June 5, 2010 by a LoveShack.org Moderator
jack5100nv Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 I can relate. I lived the nice life. Got good grades in high school, got into a good college, got my master's degree, respected women, never did drugs, and am very nice to women and guess what no women want to date me. I have been dating for past 2 years vigorously. 3 to 4 women every month. I will be lucky if I get a third date. I open doors for the girl and all the shabang, and nothing. Well every girl I have been mean to and treated badly wants to be with me. I have a friend who has good body, muscles, and no education at all. He works at Ace hardware. He is a jerk as well. He sleeps with a different women every weekend. Women throw themselves at him. One time he went to Vegas and a women bought him a $150 drink, wow. So the conclusion is, all you have to do to get women is have a good body, have good looks and be a jerk, that's it.
Woggle Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 Men 40 and under have been sold a bunch of lies on what really attracts women and it is a very bitter pill to swallow when men learn the truth. It is usually have years of heartbreak and possibly a divorce that men see reality and by then it is often too late. I will not teach a son to be a loser but if I do have one I will teach him to look out for himself and do what works for him. I will tell him to live life the way he wants it and forget all that gentlemen crap.
marsle85 Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 Right. I have a feeling the reason you "went through so much ****" is because of all-of-the-above... not because of the "lies" spewed to you. A true respectful, educated and kind man would never view these characteristics as "criteria" to attract women... nor would he ever expect anything less for him self, regardless. Poor you.
betamanlet Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 Men 40 and under have been sold a bunch of lies on what really attracts women and it is a very bitter pill to swallow when men learn the truth. It is usually have years of heartbreak and possibly a divorce that men see reality and by then it is often too late. I will not teach a son to be a loser but if I do have one I will teach him to look out for himself and do what works for him. I will tell him to live life the way he wants it and forget all that gentlemen crap. I realize being a "gentleman" gets you nowhere, but I don't do it because I want something in return. I do it because that's who I am.
Woggle Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 I realize that you should just do it for something in return but why go through life being a doormat for people who will never appreciate it?
BeautifulMan Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 This is not the way we men wanted it, ladies but you've brought this upon yourselves.
Pfiend101 Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 This reminds me of a time when I was out with some friends and there was this really snotty girl there. I opened the door for her and she didn't say thank you. Later on in the evening everyone was sitting around the table and this snotty girl wanted to get out so she got up and stopped at my chair. She goes "arent you gonna move" in a real bitchy voice. I told her "Aren't you gonna have some manners and say please" She said "FINE PLEASE and stormed off. haha
sweetjasmine Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 A true respectful, educated and kind man would never view these characteristics as "criteria" to attract women... nor would he ever expect anything less for him self, regardless. Pretty much. No one owes you a lay because you opened the freaking door for them.
VertexSquared Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 God I am getting really tired of this bitterness crap. If this is the kind of attitude that underpins your interactions and world view then it is no wonder that you're having bad luck. If you're as smart as you say, then start putting some teeth in your statistics instead of dodging all the relevant factors and falling victim to every bias I can put a name to. "Obsessed with statistics" my ass. Being respectful to women -- being a gentleman -- is a rare skill to have. Many people think they are being a gentleman when they're not. I am reminded of my uncle, who would open doors for women, to be sure, but then turn into a complete monster later, behind closed doors, if things didn't go his way. The attitude permeates itself through your body language, word choice, actions, thoughts, and, in general, through how you present yourself. What angers me more than your attitude is how you blatantly ignore anything that clashes with your view. It's like you intentionally filter for things that justify a hatred in women. Teaching people to be womanizing *******s will only attract a certain type of woman. You can still be an aggressive, confident, cocky gentleman without falling into the "nice guy doormat gentleman" category that so many fall into and wonder why women misuse them and leave.
SarahRose Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 Our parents (especially our mothers) and the media pretty much lie to men from birth about how to be respectable human being to the opposite sex. Be a gentlemen to women and treat them with respect. Be honest and truthful. Take school seriously, don't hang out with the "wrong" crowd or get into drugs. Get a higher education and get a stable and high income 9-5, a house, and a white picket fence. This is pretty much what our mothers and the media tells us we need to do to be a desirable male to the opposite sex. But guess, what? It's a crock of sht. I know it and you know it. If I *EVER* have a son (big if, I couldn't imagine a woman letting me impregnate her), I'm going to raise him to be the most disrespectful, nasty human being ever known to man. He is going to be huge misogynist, physically and emotionally abusive to women, drugs very early on, sports a priority over school. A general bad ass with a "I don't get a fck" attitude. I'm going to make sure he NEVER goes though the crap I went though. I'm making sure he is raised right in today society (sadly). After living this life for so long I can with experience say it's worse living as a decent human being without companionship than to live a life as complete bad ass, deadbeat father of 8 kids, covered with tattoos and constant smell of jack denials on my breath with a endless line of women lined up. How many pity parties can a person have in one day? All this over not being able to get laid? Just hire some hookers and be done with it. Seriously, though if you are having so much trouble find a counselor and work your issues out.
alphamale Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 After living this life for so long I can with experience say it's worse living as a decent human being without companionship than to live a life as complete bad ass, deadbeat father of 8 kids, covered with tattoos and constant smell of jack denials on my breath with a endless line of women lined up. unfortunately the quality of those women "lined up" won't be that great
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