Older women

[soserious1]

 

No! The only real reason to date an older gal is if she happens to be his soul mate. She thinks like he does, enjoys the same things, makes him laugh, makes him feel good about himself and has years of experience in the sack and the expertise to go with it. She also listens to him, cares about his feelings, his hopes, his dreams and makes him feel like the most special man on earth. I'd be willing to bet whatever you like that any man who found a woman like that wouldn't give a damn how old she was or how much money she earned!

 

 

You have lots of idealistic views and a lot of energy and to

you I say congrats.

 

I will say though that you're not being realistic about the real issues that people lug with them in mid-life. Money DOES matter when you're a divorced man saddled with hefty child support payments, college tuition's and the specter of retirement looming ahead, a retirement that's very shaky looking as the ex-wife got half of your 401K.

 

Don't forget, a man at 50 can easily date women in a wide range of ages, if he's sexually attracted to younger women an age peer of 50 isn't going to have much to offer him that he wants .. except for her purse.

[califnan]

 

 

You have lots of idealistic views and a lot of energy and to

you I say congrats.

 

I will say though that you're not being realistic about the real issues that people lug with them in mid-life. Money DOES matter when you're a divorced man saddled with hefty child support payments, college tuition's and the specter of retirement looming ahead, a retirement that's very shaky looking as the ex-wife got half of your 401K.

 

Don't forget, a man at 50 can easily date women in a wide range of ages, if he's sexually attracted to younger women an age peer of 50 isn't going to have much to offer him that he wants .. except for her purse.

 

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Soserious, You are in a lot better shape than a man is .. Generally it is the man who gets attached by leach women, and shortly after the marriage there is a living trust in her name - putting his children on wait until after her demise.

 

There is no way that a woman should marry anyone of less worth than she is .. and she certainly shouldn't get roped into child support, college, etc..

 

Furthermore, I am such a knit picker, I wish you could get the support money modified.

[LittleTiger]

What I just wrote is not idealistic, it's the truth. What I described is what most men want. It's amazing what men and women are prepared to sacrifice to get what they really want. Believe it or not, money really isn't that important to everyone, though it clearly is to you.

 

If you believe that all you have to offer a man is your money, then that's the kind of man you will attract. How about going on dates without spilling the beans about your wealth?

 

The problem is that many women don't realise their own value and they put up with a load of cr*p from men. When you expect cr*p, that's what you get. Expect to be treated with the respect you deserve and the good men will find you. They are a different breed and they only come out of hiding when they find a woman worth coming out of hiding for.

[soserious1]

 

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Soserious, You are in a lot better shape than a man is .. Generally it is the man who gets attached by leach women, and shortly after the marriage there is a living trust in her name - putting his children on wait until after her demise.

 

There is no way that a woman should marry anyone of less worth than she is .. and she certainly shouldn't get roped into child support, college, etc..

 

Furthermore, I am such a knit picker, I wish you could get the support money modified.

 

Nobody is owed a date, a relationship, sex or a marriage. Hard fact is that in mid-life we ALL come with baggage. Getting into a relationship with a person who has minor children carries with it the risk of being expected to assume some responsibility for those kids somewhere along the line. That's just not a risk I'm willing to take.

[soserious1]

What I just wrote is not idealistic, it's the truth. What I described is what most men want. It's amazing what men and women are prepared to sacrifice to get what they really want. Believe it or not, money really isn't that important to everyone, though it clearly is to you.

 

If you believe that all you have to offer a man is your money, then that's the kind of man you will attract. How about going on dates without spilling the beans about your wealth?

 

The problem is that many women don't realise their own value and they put up with a load of cr*p from men. When you expect cr*p, that's what you get. Expect to be treated with the respect you deserve and the good men will find you. They are a different breed and they only come out of hiding when they find a woman worth coming out of hiding for.

 

 

I don't have any money, I pay out more in alimony than many average people earn every month.

 

You keep side stepping away from the fact that a great many men are visually attracted to younger women and that a man in his early to mid-50's can date women in a wide range of ages. If a guy is visually cued, that 37 yr old is going to get asked out by him a lot quicker than the 52 yr old that he didn't even notice sitting 2 seats away from him.

[tommyr]

Men, are you attracted to women your age or older?

Physically attracted? Yes. There is nothing hotter than a mature lady who takes good care of herself. The more physically active and fit, the better.

 

How much older?

Up to maybe +15 years

 

It would be interesting to hear what older (over 40) men think.

Particularly married men.

I am 43 and married.

 

 

Are your wives your age?

Younger?

Older?

She is a few months younger

 

Are you attracted to your wives?

Yes, however she is not in the same physical shape as when we first got together. My reduced attraction has nothing to do with her being older, but rather the fact she has gained weight. My view of attractiveness is not related to age but is most definitely related to body size/shape. One of the hottest ladies I know is mid 50s and in great shape.

[LittleTiger]

I don't have any money, I pay out more in alimony than many average people earn every month.

 

You keep side stepping away from the fact that a great many men are visually attracted to younger women and that a man in his early to mid-50's can date women in a wide range of ages. If a guy is visually cued, that 37 yr old is going to get asked out by him a lot quicker than the 52 yr old that he didn't even notice sitting 2 seats away from him.

 

Sorry for the misunderstanding, I got the impression that you thought men were after your money and therefore you must have money!

 

I'm haven't intended to sidestep anything - I just found other things you said more relevant but if you'd like me to address it, I don't believe it's as easy for a man in his 50s to date younger women as you seem to think. Even at 40 I wouldn't have dated a guy older than 50 - purely because I prefer men of my own age. Men usually die before their spouses anyway and I'd like to increase the chances of my partner being alive with me in my 70s. So unless a girl is particularly into older men, I'm pretty sure the 50+ guy won't have much more luck with a 30 something woman than a 50+ woman would with a 30 something guy.

 

AND, more importantly, as I have said many times in this thread (feel free to read all my posts), solid long term partnerships are built on a lot more important things than looks. I'm an intelligent, educated woman, I know that all men look at young women BUT if human beings are really as shallow as some people are trying to suggest then every marriage would end in divorce once the wife hit the menopause and clearly that isn't the case.

 

I'm not sure of the statistics (which are usually inaccurate anyway) but marriages usually break down because of differences in values NOT because one partner lets themselves go or gets too old. Even where affairs are the 'cause' of a break-up, the affair wouldn't have happened if the marriage had been solid in the first place. A solid marriage being defined as one where the partners are best friends and treat each other with kindness, love and respect - and, no, that is not idealistic, that is what we should all expect from our relationships.

[You Go Girl]

I don't have any money, I pay out more in alimony than many average people earn every month.

 

You keep side stepping away from the fact that a great many men are visually attracted to younger women and that a man in his early to mid-50's can date women in a wide range of ages. If a guy is visually cued, that 37 yr old is going to get asked out by him a lot quicker than the 52 yr old that he didn't even notice sitting 2 seats away from him.

 

soserious1--you are jaded, and I know your story, so I understand why. BUT!

You have got to stop letting this man be your curse long after he is physically gone from your life.

There are millions of available men, and some yes want a younger woman, but most want a woman with an ATTITUDE!

A fiery enthusiastic woman with a strong personality and an attitude will get asked out by that man much faster than a 37 year old with half the zest for life. A woman who has energy, enthusiasm, a positive outlook. This is more important to both genders than a great looking bod.

Age has nothing to do with it. Taking care of one's looks is of course important. A great attitude but horrible teeth will kill it all, I give that this is true.

If I'm single when I'm 55, or 65, or even 75, hell even if I'm not, I'm going to converse with people! I'm going to give them a piece of my mind when they deserve it. I'm going to join into interesting and sometimes debating discussions. I'm going to share knowledge I have, and listen to others, and respond to them. Communication is key.

If I'm grey and wrinkley, so what! Who is Bette Davis? Who is Kathryn Hepburn? Not young women! but women with attitude! Women who aren't afraid to show you who is boss over their life--that being them.

I'm going to let my presence be known, no matter how many young women might be in the room. And people, men, are going to notice me. And they are going to be intrigued enough to have their gaze averted from the young bod, because my personality is going to draw them to me.

I'm not egotistical. I'm just a woman who can't and won't keep her mouth shut. Sometimes I'm a PITA. But mostly what I am is a self-respecting individual, who knows that my worth is that, or possibly even more, of a young bod in the room because I have character, life experience, knowledge, wisdom, and a zest for life.

I've had my wedding ring off (permanently this time) for 3 days. I was not hitting on any men. But I've been asked out twice already, and by decent men from my age group--46. Wow. And I felt all washed up. Apparently I'm not. Apparently that fiery personality still shines through, and some men even like my assertiveness bordering on obnoxiousness. I had no idea what effect taking a ring off would have, because nothing else has changed in my conversations with men.

Who cares that your x was a freak with a disgusting appetite for young women. he's one loser in the world, in a world where there are millions of winners.

[Eve]

My recent thread about men and 19 yo hotties which brought some unexpected results (unexpected to me) prompted me to ask another question:

 

Men, are you attracted to women your age or older?

How much older?

 

It would be interesting to hear what older (over 40) men think.

Particularly married men.

 

Are your wives your age?

Younger?

Older?

 

Are you attracted to your wives?

 

If my Husband was attracted to very young ladies I dont think I would be attracted to him in the same way. I find men as such to be immature, although of course this scenario can and does work out for some.

 

Hubby is 11 years older than myself and I am 38. It works for me because I am only attracted to older men. I have found that we do attract other people but dont take it that seriously. We just see it as a compliment and hope that maybe they are attracted to something within us that maybe exists in someone they will ultimately find for themselves. Hubby does not have a particular physical 'type' that he finds attractive but does have a definate view of what he wants in a woman in emotional terms. I have a highly particular view of the 'type' of person who I find attractive. He is this precise type.

 

Hubby is not one to perv at other women. We will both comment openly about genuine attractiveness though. He is just a die hard one woman man and wouldnt risk all he has for someone flirtatious.. in fact he finds overly flirtatious women to be a turn off.

 

I will have a good look at other men.. but I have no desire to have two men.. I can imagine nothing worse.

 

Getting older is a funny thing. Although I still get asked for ID on a regular basis to prove I am over 25, I dont take that too seriously. I do feel older of late and have decided to embrace it... not that I have much choice!

 

The balance is heavily swayed in the direction of certain personable qualities but a particular age range and type of look (dark hair etc) are without question a central part of attraction for me.

 

Take care,

Eve xx

Edited June 5, 2010 by Eve

[SueBee3490]

soserious1 - I agree with what you're saying - I pretty much feel the same way - I'm 51.

 

When I am divorced from this 2nd marriage I won't go looking again because it is obvious that men my age and older are only interested in younger women. I have just never felt comfortable dating someone younger.

 

I don't know why I feel this way - I'm thinking it is pretty much society. Society tells us unless you have youth, beauty, etc. you don't have much to offer. It only seems to be getting worse.

[You Go Girl]

soserious1 - I agree with what you're saying - I pretty much feel the same way - I'm 51.

 

When I am divorced from this 2nd marriage I won't go looking again because it is obvious that men my age and older are only interested in younger women. I have just never felt comfortable dating someone younger.

 

I don't know why I feel this way - I'm thinking it is pretty much society. Society tells us unless you have youth, beauty, etc. you don't have much to offer. It only seems to be getting worse.

 

That's a defeatist attitude.

did you read my post?

[SueBee3490]

Yes I read it and I see what you are saying but I still think the "majority" of men are attracted to younger women moreso than my age group. That's just life. Men in my age group (50s) as well as the older and younger are just attracted to younger (20s) women.

 

Why do you think Playboy, Penthouse, Victoria's Secrets, Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue all sell? Are ANY of those women in their 50s, 60s, etc.?? NO I don't know for a fact that they are all in their 20s and the "few" that may not be in their 20s are early 30s at the oldest.

 

I also exercise and try to keep my weight under control. I'm not fat but I sure wouldn't look right in a bikini I have straight teeth and my current husband said that's what he first noticed about me was my smile. I dye my hair because I don't want any white hair and that sure came on with age. I try to keep myself looking as well as I can for my age but I will never be able to compete with the 20-somethings out there.

 

I did have a compliment from my husband's male co-worker once. My husband and he went hunting together and this guy (I'll call him Chad) is around 27-28 yrs old - my husband is 54 - I'm 51. Chad kept asking my H if he thought his (Chad's) gf was pretty. My H finally got sick of reassuring him that he thought his gf was pretty that he asked Chad what he thought of me. My H said Chad went on and on about how hot he thought I was and what he would do to me, etc. (actually got my H kind of p**sed haha) Of course it was probably the alcohol talking because they had been drinking. The next morning Chad apologized for saying some of the sexual things that he said. When I've went to exchange cars with my H one time at his work - I saw all these men looking out the window. I asked my H why is everyone looking - don't you guys have work to do? He said Chad told all the guys he thought I was good-looking. I'm flattered but said "I'm old enough to be his mother!" Geez I"m 23 yrs older than him!

 

So, do I think this "Chad" or any other "Chads" out there really would form a relationship with me (or any woman in my age group) - probably not. Do I think he would have a ONS with me (or anyone my age) - probably. So to me a younger guy finding me attractive most likely means he just wonders what sex is like with someone older not actually forming a relationship. JMO

[janie423]

Yes I read it and I see what you are saying but I still think the "majority" of men are attracted to younger women moreso than my age group. That's just life. Men in my age group (50s) as well as the older and younger are just attracted to younger (20s) women.

 

Why do you think Playboy, Penthouse, Victoria's Secrets, Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue all sell? Are ANY of those women in their 50s, 60s, etc.?? NO I don't know for a fact that they are all in their 20s and the "few" that may not be in their 20s are early 30s at the oldest.

 

I also exercise and try to keep my weight under control. I'm not fat but I sure wouldn't look right in a bikini I have straight teeth and my current husband said that's what he first noticed about me was my smile. I dye my hair because I don't want any white hair and that sure came on with age. I try to keep myself looking as well as I can for my age but I will never be able to compete with the 20-somethings out there.

 

I did have a compliment from my husband's male co-worker once. My husband and he went hunting together and this guy (I'll call him Chad) is around 27-28 yrs old - my husband is 54 - I'm 51. Chad kept asking my H if he thought his (Chad's) gf was pretty. My H finally got sick of reassuring him that he thought his gf was pretty that he asked Chad what he thought of me. My H said Chad went on and on about how hot he thought I was and what he would do to me, etc. (actually got my H kind of p**sed haha) Of course it was probably the alcohol talking because they had been drinking. The next morning Chad apologized for saying some of the sexual things that he said. When I've went to exchange cars with my H one time at his work - I saw all these men looking out the window. I asked my H why is everyone looking - don't you guys have work to do? He said Chad told all the guys he thought I was good-looking. I'm flattered but said "I'm old enough to be his mother!" Geez I"m 23 yrs older than him!

 

So, do I think this "Chad" or any other "Chads" out there really would form a relationship with me (or any woman in my age group) - probably not. Do I think he would have a ONS with me (or anyone my age) - probably. So to me a younger guy finding me attractive most likely means he just wonders what sex is like with someone older not actually forming a relationship. JMO

 

You really bought the whole media package didn't you? How can you berate yourself like that? Don't you realize that attitude is everything? YOU GO GIRL said it all. She has a winner's attitude. Your attitude is sadly negative.

 

The "Chads" out there will never want a relationship with a person with such a negative attitude. I really don't even know where to begin recommendations for you. Not trying to be mean.

[SueBee3490]

I am not a mean person and actually have quite a few friends. I actually got an award at work for being "habitually happy". I tend to always smile and say hello or have a brief chat with all my co-workers. So there must be some people who think I have a positive attitude which I do about friends, family, etc. I just agreed with soserious that I think that the majority of men find younger women more attractive than older women. I said the majority not all.

 

Good for you Janie and You Go Girl - that is a good feeling to have.

[janie423]

I am not a mean person and actually have quite a few friends. I actually got an award at work for being "habitually happy". I tend to always smile and say hello or have a brief chat with all my co-workers. So there must be some people who think I have a positive attitude which I do about friends, family, etc. I just agreed with soserious that I think that the majority of men find younger women more attractive than older women. I said the majority not all.

 

Good for you Janie and You Go Girl - that is a good feeling to have.

 

I wasn't implying you were trying to be mean, I meant myself. Sure younger girls are more attractive, and younger guys are more attractive as well! But in a way you berate men by implying that all they want is eye candy. An older man would love to be with a woman around his age, but sometimes he can't find one who is freed up. Usually men who pair up with much younger women are immature themselves.

 

Have faith, young girl!!

[califnan]

You really bought the whole media package didn't you? How can you berate yourself like that? Don't you realize that attitude is everything? YOU GO GIRL said it all. She has a winner's attitude. Your attitude is sadly negative.

 

The "Chads" out there will never want a relationship with a person with such a negative attitude. I really don't even know where to begin recommendations for you. Not trying to be mean.

 

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You've got to be kidding.. Putting a realistic woman down in this manner.

 

The Chads out there are going to want her - "attitude" and all..

 

On the singles' sights I have been approached by as many Chads as I have men my age.. and I know why.

 

No reason to think that a woman with a nice looking face and decent body should settle for a frivolous Chad - because you think she should.

[silktricks]

I don't believe it's as easy for a man in his 50s to date younger women as you seem to think. Even at 40 I wouldn't have dated a guy older than 50 - purely because I prefer men of my own age. Men usually die before their spouses anyway and I'd like to increase the chances of my partner being alive with me in my 70s. So unless a girl is particularly into older men, I'm pretty sure the 50+ guy won't have much more luck with a 30 something woman than a 50+ woman would with a 30 something guy.

You are basing a lot on your own interests. My experience is that younger women are often interested in older men, and I've certainly seen a fair number of them hit on older guys. It's possible this is at least partly due to the assumption that they are stable financially, but also because older men at least have the appearance of having their sh*t together (I use the word appearance, because I don't think they really do - if they did, they probably wouldn't be so interested in younger women ) .

 

I've watched one acquaintance of ours marry successively younger women. He says he isn't interested in women his age because they never want to do the things he likes - they are more homebodies and he wants to be out and about, hiking and swimming and being active. Personally, I think he's full of you know what, but regardless, he is not interested in women his age (he's 60ish) and is currently dating a woman in her twenties, but I've never seen him without a woman for longer than a week or two. They are always considerably younger, and almost without fail, they are the ones who initiated contact.

 

AND, more importantly, as I have said many times in this thread (feel free to read all my posts), solid long term partnerships are built on a lot more important things than looks. I'm an intelligent, educated woman, I know that all men look at young women BUT if human beings are really as shallow as some people are trying to suggest then every marriage would end in divorce once the wife hit the menopause and clearly that isn't the case.

Fortunately, not all human beings are that shallow - but unfortunately, a great many of them/us are. Though I completely agree with you that a solid long term partnership is built on much more important things than looks - a person generally needs to have some looks first - to generate the beginnings of the relationship that can then be built on more. No beginning - ergo no middle and no end . But I agree, if the relationship is built only on the looks of one or the other, the first mild ripple will probably reduce it to ashes.

 

I'm not sure of the statistics (which are usually inaccurate anyway) but marriages usually break down because of differences in values NOT because one partner lets themselves go or gets too old. Even where affairs are the 'cause' of a break-up, the affair wouldn't have happened if the marriage had been solid in the first place. A solid marriage being defined as one where the partners are best friends and treat each other with kindness, love and respect - and, no, that is not idealistic, that is what we should all expect from our relationships.

Though the bolded part is undoubtedly true - it is also true that most long term marriages go through some kind of trauma - if the marriage has been strong in the past - then quite often the memory of when it was good can get the couple to work through the bad times to recover the marriage. Most marriages even good ones, are not "solid" all the time.

[califnan]

If you go onto the singles' sights (pof, match) you will see that most of the older men will post their requested age span is for women nearly their age and Younger.

 

There have been many who are 22 and up who have contacted me.. You are not living in the real world, if you think these men should be taken seriously.

[janie423]

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You've got to be kidding.. Putting a realistic woman down in this manner.

 

The Chads out there are going to want her - "attitude" and all..

 

On the singles' sights I have been approached by as many Chads as I have men my age.. and I know why.

 

No reason to think that a woman with a nice looking face and decent body should settle for a frivolous Chad - because you think she should.

 

She is not being put down . . . I am trying to bring her up . . . but you drag her down again. I never implied she should settle for anyone . . . you need to re-read my post with a clear mind . . . it appears that you have issues as well.

[janie423]

If you go onto the singles' sights (pof, match) you will see that most of the older men will post their requested age span is for women nearly their age and Younger.

 

There have been many who are 22 and up who have contacted me.. You are not living in the real world, if you think these men should be taken seriously.

 

okay, you win, you have a mindset and no one can get through . . . enjoy your solitude.

[califnan]

59 yr old Rush Limbaugh to marry 33 yr old Katherine Rogers..

[You Go Girl]

59 yr old Rush Limbaugh to marry 33 yr old Katherine Rogers..

 

I swear I would shoot myself in the head before I'd marry him.

[just_some_guy]

Hmmm.. I am "in shape" and have an excellent career, hard fact is though no amount of trips to the gym or hairdresser is going to make a 50 yr old woman as sexually attractive to men as a 22 yr old is.

 

 

Not true.

 

Good grief, 22? I'm 45. What on earth would I do with a 22 year old? Dance at a night club to music I've never heard of, get really drunk and smoke dope with all her friends?

 

Besides, if you've looked around at today's 22 year olds, it is clear that this generation needs to lay off the McDonalds and go for a run now and then. Seriously, just because they're 22 doesn't make them hot.

 

One of the most beautiful women I know is well over 50. She looks great, takes good care of herself. I find her very attractive indeed. I can tell that she's not young, but she keeps up the exercise and eats right. She also has a good, positive personality, which also is a big point in the attractive column.

 

Yes, biologically, we males are inclined to seek fecund mates, at least at an early age. But human nature is far more rich than mere biological tendency.

 

The truth is as the cohort group ages, the ratio of men to women declines. Men die off sooner. That's got more to do with it than a male desire for younger women.

[janie423]

Not true.

 

Good grief, 22? I'm 45. What on earth would I do with a 22 year old? Dance at a night club to music I've never heard of, get really drunk and smoke dope with all her friends?

 

Besides, if you've looked around at today's 22 year olds, it is clear that this generation needs to lay off the McDonalds and go for a run now and then. Seriously, just because they're 22 doesn't make them hot.

 

One of the most beautiful women I know is well over 50. She looks great, takes good care of herself. I find her very attractive indeed. I can tell that she's not young, but she keeps up the exercise and eats right. She also has a good, positive personality, which also is a big point in the attractive column.

 

Yes, biologically, we males are inclined to seek fecund mates, at least at an early age. But human nature is far more rich than mere biological tendency.

 

The truth is as the cohort group ages, the ratio of men to women declines. Men die off sooner. That's got more to do with it than a male desire for younger women.

 

well said! thank you . . .

[LittleTiger]

soserious1--you are jaded, and I know your story, so I understand why. BUT!

You have got to stop letting this man be your curse long after he is physically gone from your life.

There are millions of available men, and some yes want a younger woman, but most want a woman with an ATTITUDE!

A fiery enthusiastic woman with a strong personality and an attitude will get asked out by that man much faster than a 37 year old with half the zest for life. A woman who has energy, enthusiasm, a positive outlook. This is more important to both genders than a great looking bod.

Age has nothing to do with it. Taking care of one's looks is of course important. A great attitude but horrible teeth will kill it all, I give that this is true.

If I'm single when I'm 55, or 65, or even 75, hell even if I'm not, I'm going to converse with people! I'm going to give them a piece of my mind when they deserve it. I'm going to join into interesting and sometimes debating discussions. I'm going to share knowledge I have, and listen to others, and respond to them. Communication is key.

If I'm grey and wrinkley, so what! Who is Bette Davis? Who is Kathryn Hepburn? Not young women! but women with attitude! Women who aren't afraid to show you who is boss over their life--that being them.

I'm going to let my presence be known, no matter how many young women might be in the room. And people, men, are going to notice me. And they are going to be intrigued enough to have their gaze averted from the young bod, because my personality is going to draw them to me.

I'm not egotistical. I'm just a woman who can't and won't keep her mouth shut. Sometimes I'm a PITA. But mostly what I am is a self-respecting individual, who knows that my worth is that, or possibly even more, of a young bod in the room because I have character, life experience, knowledge, wisdom, and a zest for life.

I've had my wedding ring off (permanently this time) for 3 days. I was not hitting on any men. But I've been asked out twice already, and by decent men from my age group--46. Wow. And I felt all washed up. Apparently I'm not. Apparently that fiery personality still shines through, and some men even like my assertiveness bordering on obnoxiousness. I had no idea what effect taking a ring off would have, because nothing else has changed in my conversations with men.

Who cares that your x was a freak with a disgusting appetite for young women. he's one loser in the world, in a world where there are millions of winners.

 

YGG, I have to congratulate you on your absolutely awesome post!!!

 

I couldn't have said it better myself (though given the chance I would no doubt have tried )

 

(Big congratulations on taking off your wedding ring too. I remember how that felt. It was like taking back control of my own life! One more step away from your old life is one more step towards your new one - and a much better one it will be. Really looking forward to following your progress. Oh, and if I come across another man like mine, I'll point him in your direction .)

 

YGG - YOU GO GIRL!!!