janie423 Posted June 2, 2010 Posted June 2, 2010 Don't you know 10 years of age difference really upsets most women. She is 29 for god sakes and he is FORTY... this kind of thing would really upset a lot of women who post on this site. They would pull out their favorite word Creep... Pedo wouldn't be far behind. Green, gotta disagree with you here. As we age, the age difference matters somewhat less. A 19 yr old girl vs. 30 year old man, yeah, could raise some eyebrows. 29 vs. 40? No way, totally different. Same age difference mathematically. Still a large age difference statistically for a lasting marriage, but this is entirely different from the first scenario I listed. In my experience, the closer the couple in age, the more successful the marriage. There are exceptions, of course. And whoever said George Cloony doesn't creep women out is wrong. He creeps me out due to the sheer number of partners he's had, but that's another thread . . .
Woggle Posted June 2, 2010 Posted June 2, 2010 George Clooney might creep you out but to most women he is the ideal man. They would love to jump his bones.
brainygirl Posted June 2, 2010 Posted June 2, 2010 Green, gotta disagree with you here. As we age, the age difference matters somewhat less. A 19 yr old girl vs. 30 year old man, yeah, could raise some eyebrows. 29 vs. 40? No way, totally different. Same age difference mathematically. Still a large age difference statistically for a lasting marriage, but this is entirely different from the first scenario I listed. In my experience, the closer the couple in age, the more successful the marriage. There are exceptions, of course. And whoever said George Cloony doesn't creep women out is wrong. He creeps me out due to the sheer number of partners he's had, but that's another thread . . . I think that there are two issues with age differences. One is that when you have very young women, 18, 19, 20, dating men is that those women are very physically pretty, but also very immature. They aren't at the same place as a 35 to 40 year old man. So, when we see women who are very young with older men we have two thoughts 1) wow, that guy is really immature to be running around with someone so young and 2) I wonder what she's getting out of this arrangement, cause he's in it for the sex. At the same time, a woman of 27 or up with a man ten to fifteen years her senior doesn't raise those questions to the same extent. It may not be right, it may not be fair and it is a generalization so I am sure someone can give examples where it isn't true, but that is the way it is seen.
brainygirl Posted June 2, 2010 Posted June 2, 2010 George Clooney might creep you out but to most women he is the ideal man. They would love to jump his bones. He's attractive in a generic Holly wood sort of way, but I wouldn't want to date him or jump him.
Sivok Posted June 2, 2010 Posted June 2, 2010 This thread made me chuckle a bit! I personally believed that women enjoy dating older men because they have it 'figured out'. I dated a girl my age last october and we had great chemistry... then she ended up leaving me for a guy 8 years her senior because she felt he was 'safer' than me, whatever that means
Author Green Posted June 2, 2010 Author Posted June 2, 2010 1. What is it that you want women to learn? That some men consider us expendable based on our age? 2. When a woman turns 30, do you kick her to the side? Do you spend the rest of your days with her pining for her younger counterparts or perhaps shoving it in her face that she is less worthy as a woman to you then she was when she was in her 20s? Above you mention that I am threatened. Yes, there is something threatening about being told by men, where one day I would love to have a close important romantic relationship with one that will last, that my worth as a woman is less then his worth as a man. Since no one remains 23 forever. What would you like women to do? What would you have women do? We can't stop aging. If we could, we sure would because maybe that would ensure that a man could love and care for us. But since we can't, I guess we better smile the next time a man wants to drag us out back and shoot us down like an old dog? Or maybe we should lay down and crawl in to a hole while we still feed your ego and give you props for being such a great man? You certainly aren't giving us women much to look foward to. You are basically saying women are worth less then men. I will say it again, you are basically saying that the worth of women is less then your worth as a man. That's not cool Green. And you know what, It's not true. Withough women, you and all the other men would never be here. Without the love of a mother, the kindness of a sister or aunt, the romance of a partner, you men would be sitting around scratching yourselves, fighting and be completely lost of any love and companionship. And the thanks you give any woman, 20 or 40, is your hate and degradement of women everywere by telling women they are less worth while then you. That's your own insecurity. You continue to make completely untrue statements saying I said anyone was "creepy", I infact didn't ever say this. I infact said quite clearly that while I don't consider such a relationship "creepy", I don't consider it healthy either. A 30 year old man that can relate to a teen girl doesn't bode well for his own maturity and relationship health. Lastly, I never once said such a relationship was "wrong" or "right". Where do you even get this stuff? No. What upsets women is that you want women to feel worthless based on their age. It's one thing to date a younger woman, it's another thign to focus on it and tout your own importance to the world while you degrade a woman's. And it doesn't matter if the girl is 23 or 40. You aren't doing that 23 year old girl any good either. One day she will be 40 do. You aren't just degrading older women. You are degrading all women. You go on to ask rhetorical questions such as what do I want from women... and MORE INSULTING questions such as if you should smile when a man wants to drag you out and shoot you like a dog? But I will answer the 2 questions you have outlines 1. What is it that you want women to learn? That some men consider us expendable based on our age? Well the OP answers this, I think it is OK for older men to date younger women. I don't agree with women who say it is creepy and all the other negative things. Why you must berate me to hear what I have already said only you know. Number 2 once again a loaded question, not exactly something you would ask some one since it is full of your own opinion and hard to answer properly because it has a lot going on in it. 2. When a woman turns 30, do you kick her to the side? Do you spend the rest of your days with her pining for her younger counterparts or perhaps shoving it in her face that she is less worthy as a woman to you then she was when she was in her 20s? Well if things work out with the woman that would be great. BUTTTT in the real world things often go wrong, and when they do if you want to date some one you are attracted to and you happen to be 30 or 40 and still attractive enough to get some one in their twenties why not. Heck you may want to just have some fun with a 18/19 year old and it may turn seriouse. George Clooney might creep you out but to most women he is the ideal man. They would love to jump his bones. Don't expect most of the women who post on this thread to admit anything He's attractive in a generic Holly wood sort of way, but I wouldn't want to date him or jump him. WELL IN THE VERY UNLIKELY EVEN HE EVER FINDS HIMSELF CHASING AFTER YOU... yes I'm pretty sure he could get you to atleast date him
Peitho Posted June 2, 2010 Posted June 2, 2010 ... really I don't see the probelm with consenting adults.... Exactly you were 19 and you knew you didn't want to date the typical old guy... makes sense. I would say you have anger about it though if you want to put people down who do it. Personaly I'm creeped out when I see a hot 20 year old dating a gross 20 year old... my point is many WOMEN atleast on this internet forum have hatred of men like yourself... there hatred does subseed a little if the guy is handsom or what ever but still... just think about it... plenty of hot twenty year old girls go out with real loser twenty year old guys who will go on to hit them/ make them feel like crap/ and impregnate them so hmmm why all the hatred of a 30 or 40 year old man who dates young women.... Jelousy and anger So you don't see a problem with consenting adults... but you are creeped out by a 20 yo dating a 20 yo??? You are accusing people who respond to your thread of anger and jealousy... Dude, you started this thread - can't you see that you are the one with issues about this?
Jersey Shortie Posted June 2, 2010 Posted June 2, 2010 You go on to ask rhetorical questions such as what do I want from women... and MORE INSULTING questions such as if you should smile when a man wants to drag you out and shoot you like a dog? How is that insulting to you?? Green: But I will answer the 2 questions you have outlines JS: 1. What is it that you want women to learn? That some men consider us expendable based on our age? Green: Well the OP answers this, I think it is OK for older men to date younger women. I don't agree with women who say it is creepy and all the other negative things. Why you must berate me to hear what I have already said only you know. Green, why do you care if a woman thinks it's creepy? You don't find it creepy. Okay. Then date younger women and be on your way. Why do you care what other women think if you aren't dating them? I *know* why but I want to see if you do. You might not like some of the opinions women have of certain male behavior and that's fine. Guess what? Women don't always like some of the opinions of male on women. But to tell women they are hating men for it is really immature. I don't think it's healthy when a man chooses to focus on very young women. I also don't think it's healthy when women date men with dollar signs in their eyes. No man wants to be wanted or used for his money and the sum of his value be tied to it. No woman wants to only be wanted or used for her looks and the sum of her value be tied up to it. There is post after post on here about how women are gold-diggers. And then there is post after post about how men like younger women more and that's just too bad for all the other women out there that are by themselves over the age of 30. It's just really discouraging as a woman to see. But you don't care much about that do you Green. You repeatidly make the connection that the worth of a man is far greater then the worth of any woman. Because those 23 year old girls grow up. They grow up to be 40 year old women if they are lucky enough to live that long. Number 2 once again a loaded question, not exactly something you would ask some one since it is full of your own opinion and hard to answer properly because it has a lot going on in it. What's so loaded about it? You are the one making the distiniction that men have a far greater worth to the world then women do. That's you! Not women! Not me! I'm not the one saying my worth as a woman is more important then a mans. But plenty of men in this thread sure are and that's what is so disheartening to see. JS: 2. When a woman turns 30, do you kick her to the side? Do you spend the rest of your days with her pining for her younger counterparts or perhaps shoving it in her face that she is less worthy as a woman to you then she was when she was in her 20s? Green: Well if things work out with the woman that would be great. BUTTTT in the real world things often go wrong, and when they do if you want to date some one you are attracted to and you happen to be 30 or 40 and still attractive enough to get some one in their twenties why not. Heck you may want to just have some fun with a 18/19 year old and it may turn seriouse.[/QUOTE] Then do it. Date whoever you want. But don't sit there and act like women aren't allowed to have their opinion on this and just because their opinion isn't favorable of this type of behavior, that it's somehow hating on men. Do you know what is more hate filled? Not the person disagreeing with the behavior but the person who is clearly saying that in one gender, that their 20 year old counterparts are far better then their 40 year old ones when they themselves are 40. You think the worth of a man, your worth, is far more important and greater then that of any woman. And that's what is so very disheartening. Because it's not just you that thinks that way. It's a number of men that apparently do. So why not take women out back and shoot them? YOu certinaly don't care about them. You care about youth and beauty and that's the sum of what you think a woman measures up to. Now, I'll be sure to see you on the next Gold-digger thread talking about how women are just shallow bitches for looking for a man with money. See you then. Don't expect most of the women who post on this thread to admit anything You are one to talk Green. Be honest and admit that you think men are more worthwhile in life for a far longer time then you consider women to be. Just be honest and admit it. WELL IN THE VERY UNLIKELY EVEN HE EVER FINDS HIMSELF CHASING AFTER YOU... yes I'm pretty sure he could get you to atleast date him Jack Nicklson just asked Jessica Simpson out not too long ago and she turned him down. He's rich and old. But we all know she can do better.
Ilovehim Posted June 2, 2010 Posted June 2, 2010 A 40 yr old with a 30 year old is fine..Look point being is that an 18 year old with a 50 year old is GROSS NASTY and yes the man is a pedophile. Can we drop the subject now? Thanks! I told my guy friends about this and they are all around my age 20-21 and told me "What kind of perverted ass sites do you go on?" With that said, I am done with this website and people who should be married with kids who are 18, wanting to **** little girls who are 18. Although I am young, at 21 so before all the "you're jealous" rediculous comments come in, I am very offended at the idea that an old man would want to sleep with me.
janie423 Posted June 2, 2010 Posted June 2, 2010 So you don't see a problem with consenting adults... but you are creeped out by a 20 yo dating a 20 yo??? yeah, I noticed that flawed reasoning as well . . . an old dude like Jack Nicholson thinking Jessica Simpson would date him . . . now that is arrogance. gawd.
Author Green Posted June 2, 2010 Author Posted June 2, 2010 So you don't see a problem with consenting adults... but you are creeped out by a 20 yo dating a 20 yo??? You are accusing people who respond to your thread of anger and jealousy... Dude, you started this thread - can't you see that you are the one with issues about this? Sure I have issues. My issue is being anoyed by all the women who don't keep stuff to themselves and have to constantly in every post I read comment on age differences... Since making this post I've spotted women putting down a guy for dating a 21 year old girl when he was 27 or something.... it was an unrelated thread It just gets old. The reality whether we argue it in this thread or not is Younger women DO date older Men. You are one to talk Green. Be honest and admit that you think men are more worthwhile in life for a far longer time then you consider women to be. Just be honest and admit it. So according to this "question" of yours I'm dishonest if I say anything other then what you want to hear. I'll be honest and tell you that you are wrong about me. Seriously I just wanted to make a thread that talked about "Older men dating younger women" and how I am cool with it while I know many women such as yourself are threatned/ angered ect. by it. Jack Nicklson just asked Jessica Simpson out not too long ago and she turned him down. He's rich and old. But we all know she can do better. Jack Nicklson the actor born in the 1930's who is over the age of 70? Yeah well if he had been in his forties I doubt she would have said no... BUT HE'S Seventy something so geez. You got have attraction You gotta love these bonding moments. haha do I? lol
Jersey Shortie Posted June 2, 2010 Posted June 2, 2010 So according to this "question" of yours I'm dishonest if I say anything other then what you want to hear. I'll be honest and tell you that you are wrong about me. Seriously I just wanted to make a thread that talked about "Older men dating younger women" and how I am cool with it while I know many women such as yourself are threatned/ angered ect. by it. Where did I ever say that you would be dishonest if you said anything other then what I wanted to hear? Fine. You think older men dating younger women is just fine. Okay. Good for you. Some women don't think it's fine. Good for them. You don't have to date these women and they don't have to date you. You don't have to riddle yourself with a woman you consider to be beneath you (IE older then 30). As for what I am threatened and angered about, let me tell you just so we are clear. I'm not angry that an older man would date a younger woman. I am angry that men consider their worth as men to be far greater and of more value then they consider women. And I don't want my value as a woman to deminish. You want to say that's bad? Many men in this very thread hold the belief that as they age, their worth doesn't decline but they make it clear to make sure women remember that theirs do. Do I feel threatened by that? Yeah, I do. Because no human being on this planet whats to be told that their worth is lessened. No man on LS wants to be made or thought of to be less of a man because of his net worth. And no woman wants to be made or thought of less of a woman because her age. Yet that's the message you continue to sell. What do you care if women think certain older men dating certain younger women is creepy? Jack Nicklson the actor born in the 1930's who is over the age of 70? Yeah well if he had been in his forties I doubt she would have said no I bet she would have. She dates men closer to her own age. Tony Romano....Nick Leche...or whatever his name is. She doesn't date older guys. She doesn't have to. She's got money and security. And I think she has a relationship with her father so she probably isn't looking for a father figure.
Peitho Posted June 2, 2010 Posted June 2, 2010 My issue is being anoyed by all the women who don't keep stuff to themselves and have to constantly in every post I read comment on age differences... You are annoyed by those women and those women are annoyed by the idea of older men dating younger women? So what? What is the difference between you and them? You don’t keep stuff to yourself either! You started a thread just to tell ‘those’ women that they are angry and jealous. Since making this post I've spotted women putting down a guy for dating a 21 year old girl when he was 27 or something.... it was an unrelated thread So what? In your own thread you stated that you are ‘creeped out’ by a 20 yo dating another 20 yo??? I think you want to put down people who don’t approve of your way of thinking. The question is: why? It just gets old. The reality whether we argue it in this thread or not is Younger women DO date older Men. The reality is also that many women and men ARE creeped out by it. ~ How old are you, btw?
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