Green Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 Older men date younger women all the time. I personally see the potential problems with dating young women like the 18-23 range… but damn they are hot. My gf is in her mid twenties but she looks hot and as if she could be in her early twenties. Seriously if you are a 40 year old man and you meet some 19 or 20 year old girl and you really hit it off… I find it so funny that a bunch of WOMEN need to come in and call it creepy… even to go so far as calling a person a pedophile… hmm that makes no sense considering when you think about a hot older woman you say… wow she is in her forties but looks as good as any girl in her twenties… please all women want to look young. Its jealousy… and MAN HATING at its best.
Els Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 So what would you say about a 40 year old woman with a 20 year old guy? Or maybe your 50-year-old boss dating one of your teen daughters?
Author Green Posted May 30, 2010 Author Posted May 30, 2010 So what would you say about a 40 year old woman with a 20 year old guy? Or maybe your 50-year-old boss dating one of your teen daughters? I personaly would not want to date a 40 year old woman. If some random guy did I wouldn't call the woman a creep or think the guy is being abused or call any one a pedo. I don't have a daughter. If I did I would not like the idea of her dating my "boss" as you put it even if he were a teenager himself... not to mention I wouldn't want to work for some one younger then me. If my hypothetical teenage daughter went away to college and just met some random 40 year old man on the beach and they hit it off I would no better then to think I had any control over that. I would say stuff like "this probably isn't going to work out" but I would no better then to treat my daughter like a moron child who is being raped. Seriously young women get hit on by older men all the time they don't seem to have any problem saying no for themselves when they want to.
Els Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 Oh? So it's not okay for your daughter to date your boss but okay for her to date a 50-year-old man? Interesting.
Yamaha Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 People use the word creepy when the're purplexed as to the attraction of a women in her sexual prime for a middle aged man. The idea is that a 40ish man as a paunch and probably balding so he is not sexually attractive to a 20's woman. The same statement can't be said for 40's women b/c they take care of themselves better than men so it is understandable a 20 something guy would be attracted ( usually from the media ).
Author Green Posted May 30, 2010 Author Posted May 30, 2010 Oh? So it's not okay for your daughter to date your boss but okay for her to date a 50-year-old man? Interesting. Look if your asking me about a hypothetical person dating their teacher, or their fathers friends or boss.... well that is not cool for reasons that have nothing to do with age. My point is if I had a daughter I would know better then to think I could control who she dates. Seriously if my daughter was on vacation and fell in love with a 40 year old man there would be little I could do and I wouldn't lose sleep over it. People use the word creepy when the're purplexed as to the attraction of a women in her sexual prime for a middle aged man. The idea is that a 40ish man as a paunch and probably balding so he is not sexually attractive to a 20's woman. The same statement can't be said for 40's women b/c they take care of themselves better than men so it is understandable a 20 something guy would be attracted ( usually from the media ). I think they are jelouse/angry
Cracker Jack Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 I honestly don't see the issue, to be quite honest. Younger women have been dating older men for like, ages. Funny how people (In public) often chatter about their displeasure of seeing a young, hot piece of ass with some wrinkled fellow. I agree, Green; it's merely jealousy.
You'reasian Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 I honestly don't see the issue, to be quite honest. Younger women have been dating older men for like, ages. Funny how people (In public) often chatter about their displeasure of seeing a young, hot piece of ass with some wrinkled fellow. I agree, Green; it's merely jealousy. Kiddos call it "hatin'" When people witness something new or meet a new person they don't understand, it can fall into the realm of preferences. If they could like the new person, they are interesting or mysterious. If they could dislike the new person, they are "cree-peee."
Els Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 Look if your asking me about a hypothetical person dating their teacher, or their fathers friends or boss.... well that is not cool for reasons that have nothing to do with age. My point is if I had a daughter I would know better then to think I could control who she dates. Seriously if my daughter was on vacation and fell in love with a 40 year old man there would be little I could do and I wouldn't lose sleep over it. I think they are jelouse/angry My point is that if you can think it's 'not cool' for someone to date their teacher etc... why is it jealous/angry/judgemental/wrong for us to think it's 'not cool' for a 50-year-old man to date a 16-year-old girl?
janie423 Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 People use the word creepy when the're purplexed as to the attraction of a women in her sexual prime for a middle aged man. The idea is that a 40ish man as a paunch and probably balding so he is not sexually attractive to a 20's woman. The same statement can't be said for 40's women b/c they take care of themselves better than men so it is understandable a 20 something guy would be attracted ( usually from the media ). Did I say I was staying out of this? Yamaha said it perfectly. Green and Cracker Jack, I am really really trying to understand your point of view . . . who is jealous of whom? When I was 19 (a million years ago) I CERTAINLY WAS NOT JEALOUS of a girl my age with an old guy. Ewwww! And now, I am not jealous of such relationships, I just cannot understand what a young girl sees in an old man. That's all it is . . . please explain who is jealous of whom???
Zed Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 Since the beginning of civilization (excluding the Stone Age when both sexes would have been dead in their twenties) there have always been huge age gaps between men and women--mostly due to the fact that women often died younger than men. So I don't think on average most people are that upset or care about gap between an old man and a younger woman. In fact, men often gets the side wink and the pat on the back from other guys but not condemnation. Also older women and younger men are a recent phenomenon and comprise a tiny minority of couples. Despite the "rah rah" Hollywood stamp of approval, woman are more often vilified for dating someone so much younger than they are compared to men. Lastly, the older woman better be super hot and not show her age like Demi Moore, whereas the older man can look like a troll and still be able to compensate for other issues as to why he can get someone so much younger. And I have seen old guys with no money get younger women without much effort so having money is not the only motivating factor.
janie423 Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 Lastly, the older woman better be super hot and not show her age like Demi Moore. You make interesting points, but if the above statement were true, how do you explain Prince Charles and Camilla? (not sure I spelled that correctly)
Zed Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 You make interesting points, but if the above statement were true, how do you explain Prince Charles and Camilla? (not sure I spelled that correctly) Camilla and Charles are only a year apart---1948 and 1947 respectively. In fact it is said that they were linked when they were both much younger but for whatever the reason that I am not clear they did not pursue a marriage. Still it said that they have been carrying on affair for years. If anything, Charles broke the older men/younger women trope by divorcing, considering that is de rigeur with royals, with Diana Spencer being 14 years younger than Charles.
shunter Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 It is strange when a nice hot piece of 18 year old ass is dating a balding, fat, out of shape 40 year old. It is like WTF is going on. It is creepy and gross. that being said i am 35 and with a 20 year old, but i have a full head of hair, am very attractive (get hit on all the time by girls in their twenties) and so to me it is perfectly normal and okay. So older guy + much younger girl = OK gross, balding, out of shape guy + super hot "8", "9", or "10" girl = gross and creepy this gross balding guy could be 25 or 45. I dont think age matters it is just we as society are shocked when we see some old dady with some young hot girl. if you saw me and my wife you wouldnt blink an eye
janie423 Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 It is strange when a nice hot piece of 18 year old ass is dating a balding, fat, out of shape 40 year old. It is like WTF is going on. It is creepy and gross. that being said i am 35 and with a 20 year old, but i have a full head of hair, am very attractive (get hit on all the time by girls in their twenties) and so to me it is perfectly normal and okay. So older guy + much younger girl = OK gross, balding, out of shape guy + super hot "8", "9", or "10" girl = gross and creepy this gross balding guy could be 25 or 45. I dont think age matters it is just we as society are shocked when we see some old dady with some young hot girl. if you saw me and my wife you wouldnt blink an eye some definite truth here! Kind of in line with what Zed said about older woman/younger man.
threebyfate Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 It's undeniably creepy unless the two are at the same stage in life. Otherwise, it's a relationship of compensation.
Knittress Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 I think some of you guys need to have a beer and listen to some soothing music - but it makes me laugh out loud that anyone would think there's some sort of age-related decay that strikes women somewhere between their early and mid-twenties. Funny - those 18 year olds hitting on me don't think I'm a hag. ;>) I personally feel that a 40 year old that connects mentally with a 20 year old is developmentally retarded in some way - and that's 'creepy.' But hey, happy creepy people are less of a nuisance to society than pissed off creepy people - and they're both old enough to make their own decisions, it's true. I don't really care all that much, why do you?
ADF Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 For what it's worth, I can tell you that as a 40 year old man, I often find the sight of men dating women young enough to be their daughters creepy. I don't say it is pedophilia--it isn't. But in my experience, older men who consistently date much younger women often have serious domination and control issues. Sure, they like sex with nubile young bodies. But they also like dating women they see as naive and overly trusting, who are less savvy about the world than they are, who they can manipulate emotionally and--sometimes--make financially dependent. I don't mean to say all such relationships are exploitative, but they tend to be.
somedude81 Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 Due to my limited relationship experience and current lifestyle, I'm only interested in dating much younger women. Would a 25+ year old woman even date a guy who has never been in a LTR and is going to college and doesn't work? Even though I'm 28, I have much more in common with undergrad college age girls than women my own age. So it's either I date women almost ten years younger than myself, trying to get relationship experience from them or I don't date at all. The last thing I want to be is some 30+ year old dude who doesn't have a chance at dating anybody. Women my own age wouldn't give me the time of day and younger girls would think I'm creepy, so I'd be screwed. So I'm going to try and date younger girls why I still can. So what would you say about a 40 year old woman with a 20 year old guy? I've actually had sex with women in their 40's when I was in my early 20's. Though that was mostly part of the swinger scene and a relationship was completely out of the question. It was only about sex and only one or two meetings with each woman.
Author Green Posted May 30, 2010 Author Posted May 30, 2010 (edited) My point is that if you can think it's 'not cool' for someone to date their teacher etc... why is it jealous/angry/judgemental/wrong for us to think it's 'not cool' for a 50-year-old man to date a 16-year-old girl? Well usualy the age of consent is 18 so that is what I was refering too. A pretty girl by age 18 knows the kind of power she has... so really I don't see the probelm with consenting adults.... Personaly I find it sexist against women the way people worry about girls Did I say I was staying out of this? Yamaha said it perfectly. Green and Cracker Jack, I am really really trying to understand your point of view . . . who is jealous of whom? When I was 19 (a million years ago) I CERTAINLY WAS NOT JEALOUS of a girl my age with an old guy. Ewwww! And now, I am not jealous of such relationships, I just cannot understand what a young girl sees in an old man. That's all it is . . . please explain who is jealous of whom??? Exactly you were 19 and you knew you didn't want to date the typical old guy... makes sense. I would say you have anger about it though if you want to put people down who do it. Since the beginning of civilization (excluding the Stone Age when both sexes would have been dead in their twenties) there have always been huge age gaps between men and women--mostly due to the fact that women often died younger than men. So I don't think on average most people are that upset or care about gap between an old man and a younger woman. In fact, men often gets the side wink and the pat on the back from other guys but not condemnation. Also older women and younger men are a recent phenomenon and comprise a tiny minority of couples. Despite the "rah rah" Hollywood stamp of approval, woman are more often vilified for dating someone so much younger than they are compared to men. Lastly, the older woman better be super hot and not show her age like Demi Moore, whereas the older man can look like a troll and still be able to compensate for other issues as to why he can get someone so much younger. And I have seen old guys with no money get younger women without much effort so having money is not the only motivating factor. People these days have lost touch with everything... especialy many but not all women. It is strange when a nice hot piece of 18 year old ass is dating a balding, fat, out of shape 40 year old. It is like WTF is going on. It is creepy and gross. that being said i am 35 and with a 20 year old, but i have a full head of hair, am very attractive (get hit on all the time by girls in their twenties) and so to me it is perfectly normal and okay. So older guy + much younger girl = OK gross, balding, out of shape guy + super hot "8", "9", or "10" girl = gross and creepy this gross balding guy could be 25 or 45. I dont think age matters it is just we as society are shocked when we see some old dady with some young hot girl. if you saw me and my wife you wouldnt blink an eye Personaly I'm creeped out when I see a hot 20 year old dating a gross 20 year old... my point is many WOMEN atleast on this internet forum have hatred of men like yourself... there hatred does subseed a little if the guy is handsom or what ever but still... just think about it... plenty of hot twenty year old girls go out with real loser twenty year old guys who will go on to hit them/ make them feel like crap/ and impregnate them so hmmm why all the hatred of a 30 or 40 year old man who dates young women.... Jelousy and anger I think some of you guys need to have a beer and listen to some soothing music - but it makes me laugh out loud that anyone would think there's some sort of age-related decay that strikes women somewhere between their early and mid-twenties. Funny - those 18 year olds hitting on me don't think I'm a hag. ;>) I personally feel that a 40 year old that connects mentally with a 20 year old is developmentally retarded in some way - and that's 'creepy.' But hey, happy creepy people are less of a nuisance to society than pissed off creepy people - and they're both old enough to make their own decisions, it's true. I don't really care all that much, why do you? I've seen some very beautiful 40 year old women... but they look young... you know who else looks young... young women. Edited May 30, 2010 by a LoveShack.org Moderator
Els Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 Well usualy the age of consent is 18 so that is what I was refering too. A pretty girl by age 18 knows the kind of power she has... so really I don't see the probelm with consenting adults.... Personaly I find it sexist against women the way people worry about girls The age of consent here is 16, so that's why I said 16. But anyway. So what's the difference with a girl consenting to have sex with her teacher? Is it not consent as well?
Author Green Posted May 30, 2010 Author Posted May 30, 2010 The age of consent here is 16, so that's why I said 16. But anyway. So what's the difference with a girl consenting to have sex with her teacher? Is it not consent as well? because teachers are not suposed to have sex with their students even if the students are older then them as is posible in college when some students are older. This isn't a thread about Men who are your boss or teacher or your dads best friend screwing you... its simply about older men dating yonger women.
somedude81 Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 So what's the difference with a girl consenting to have sex with her teacher? Is it not consent as well? Neither the age nor gender matters. People should not have sex with anybody they have authority over and vice versa. It's a completely different issue.
threebyfate Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 Neither the age nor gender matters. People should not have sex with anybody they have authority over and vice versa. It's a completely different issue.It's all predatory behaviour whether they have the given power to coerce or just a talent at manipulation. Young girls are easy to manipulate and control.
Ilovehim Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 Hi. I'm a 21 year old girl and my father is not 40 yet. So you think me dating a 40 yr old guy is cool? I think I just threw up in my mouth. Let's put it this way. When a 40 year old man was my age, I was only 1 year old. No thanks. And yes, it's nasty, and gross and a pedophile. Plus what in the world would an 18 yr old and a 40 yr old have in common? I can't believe someone would make such statements AND be serious! Jelous? No thanks, at 21 I think I still have morals and would like to stick to dating men my own age! Have a nice day and stop grossing people out. *throws up some more* :sick::sick::sick::sick::sick::sick:
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