Eeyore79 Posted May 29, 2010 Posted May 29, 2010 Some men just have effeminate faces or effeminate mannerisms. Mannerisms can be eliminated, but unfortunately everyone is stuck with the face they were given. Full red lips, long eyelashes, small girly face, soft voice... it just makes a guy appear gay, regardless of whether he is or not.
Hot Carl Posted May 29, 2010 Posted May 29, 2010 This thread.... seems like an odd way to come out of the closet.
Author USMCHokie Posted May 29, 2010 Author Posted May 29, 2010 Hokie - I looked at your profile pics, and I can kinda see why people make this erroneous assumption. You are very smooth shaven, clean cut, and have a broad, wide smile with high cheekbones. Plus, you are very lean. Which can be viewed as feminine, or twinky-ish. Most men aren't as well put together. lol Thanks. I can see how Erica might see someone asking this as a compliment. If it really bothers you - try some facial hair. Might give you a more rugged look. No facial hair for me...my job as well as the perks of the race... But still, as I wrote on your other thread, who cares? And I do think it's exceptionally crass for someone to walk up to you and ask if you're gay. Next time, I would respond with, "No, do you have a yeast infection?" Hahah. Don't get me wrong, I don't care one bit...no girl I have ever asked out as ever told me that I was too gay for her...it's just interesting though...the first time it happened a while back, I thought it was hilarious, and thought nothing of it...but the second and third and fourth times it happened, I just got curious...nothing more...
Author USMCHokie Posted May 29, 2010 Author Posted May 29, 2010 Some men just have effeminate faces or effeminate mannerisms. Mannerisms can be eliminated, but unfortunately everyone is stuck with the face they were given. Full red lips, long eyelashes, small girly face, soft voice... it just makes a guy appear gay, regardless of whether he is or not. I agree with this...and I hate to bring race into this, but many Asians tend to have more effeminate features...slighter builds, higher, more pronounced cheekbones, and a "gentler" demeanor...
homersheineken Posted May 29, 2010 Posted May 29, 2010 The way he talks, the way he moves around, the way he sits i.e. speech pattern and body language. However I can't imagine you coming from the marine corps have any of these... That's a good point. There aren't any gays in the military, esp the Marines. Nor any who have any homosexual characteristics or tendencies...
Author USMCHokie Posted May 29, 2010 Author Posted May 29, 2010 The problem is clear to me... you are spending time with Erica (a hotty) and you act like FRIENDS. Even if you are just friends you MUST to be flirty with her! You need the other women to see you interacting with Erica so they will get envious of her. Then they will know you are straight and they will definitely want to get to know you. As a wing lady her job is to make you appear flirty, sexy, and a catch. Her acting like a friend in public will not do any of those, but it will make you look gay. I completely understand what you're saying here...but when we go out, we don't go out with the purpose of picking up other people...so I guess it's not a true wingman/woman situation...so we don't act in a fashion to pick up women for me...it's just have to a good time with the people we're there with... So perhaps you're right...a unintended consequence of this is that women might think I'm gay because I'm not trying to put the moves on my female friend who I showed up with...
Author USMCHokie Posted May 29, 2010 Author Posted May 29, 2010 The way he talks, the way he moves around, the way he sits i.e. speech pattern and body language. However I can't imagine you coming from the marine corps have any of these... Yea, I truly believe I don't exhibit any of those kinds of tendencies or behaviors, so I'm just curious as to what else it could be...
Art_Critic Posted May 29, 2010 Posted May 29, 2010 Maybe it is more simple than you realize.. In your picture you do bear a resemblance to David Bromstad who is openly gay and every woman alive knows who he is and so do the gay men. http://treygivens.com/?p=301 Maybe you are just being thrown into the gay pot because of who you look like.. At least in the pics you do bear a resemblance to him.. I believe he is part asian...
Always A Lesson Posted May 29, 2010 Posted May 29, 2010 People size each other up all the time, I would say a guy could be gay if: * he carries himself in an effeminate way * he matched too perfectly, goes overboard * talks in a soft, womanish way * too well-kept * woman-like gestures * a gossiper.. more than the woman * Shouldn't be on list.. I just don't care for this. clear nail polish, a lot of guys in the hood do this, goes back to Superfly days (never cared for this... usually older pimp-type guys do this) Big NO-No... arched eyebrows...they can clean out the uni-brow but that's all !!! Those are signs , but some guys are raised by single moms and grandmothers and aunts, that does not mean they are necessarily gay.... they just have womanish traits. Down-Lows The guys that piss me off the most are the down-lows. The ones that hide their gayness and hit it both ways, bringing life threatening diseases to their unsuspecting spouses....UUUGh! then there's the: No-homos (usually thugs) the guys who get blow jobs from other guys, but don't consider themselves gay...and don't give them, but are always seen with their women. ALot of drug dealers in the streets have crackheads do this in exchange for drugs, they say they have strong jaws. I know sounds sick... just bringing some reality to the boards.... Oh, I could go further but I'm getting off the main topic...
TouchedByViolet Posted May 29, 2010 Posted May 29, 2010 I completely understand what you're saying here...but when we go out, we don't go out with the purpose of picking up other people...so I guess it's not a true wingman/woman situation...so we don't act in a fashion to pick up women for me...it's just have to a good time with the people we're there with... So perhaps you're right...a unintended consequence of this is that women might think I'm gay because I'm not trying to put the moves on my female friend who I showed up with... You are single, no? You are looking for someone special, no? So why aren't you flirting with the women you meet when you go out? Flirt with every girl you meet!!! When you make eye contact with a girl you find attracting do you smile? Do you look at her in such a way that shows interest? Do you converse in a flirtatious manner, not just friendly stuff... girls want to have a guy who can give them a good time and make them feel special. Talking to her as a friend won't get you anywhere, unless your goal is to come off as gay.
Lovelybird Posted May 29, 2010 Posted May 29, 2010 To be honest, in the beginning I thought you are a woman, because of the posts you wrote. Usually a man won't talk to me like what you did, a little bit "bitchy" although later I know you have some bitterness and said you are a guy. Are you raised by a single mother? Do you have good models of solid man?
Author USMCHokie Posted May 29, 2010 Author Posted May 29, 2010 To be honest, in the beginning I thought you are a woman, because of the posts you wrote. Usually a man won't talk to me like what you did, a little bit "bitchy" although later I know you have some bitterness and said you are a guy. Are you raised by a single mother? Do you have good models of solid man? Hmmm, heheh, this is actually quite interesting to hear that I was "bitchy." I had to do some digging to figure out what posts you were talking about (of course, an Asian thread...). I don't make a habit of sugarcoating anything, so if you were somehow offended...well, ok then... No, I was not raised by a single mother, and I have plenty of "models" of good men from friends and family whom I look up to. Many of these same friends and family also look up to me in a similar fashion.
Author USMCHokie Posted May 29, 2010 Author Posted May 29, 2010 You are single, no? You are looking for someone special, no? So why aren't you flirting with the women you meet when you go out? Flirt with every girl you meet!!! When you make eye contact with a girl you find attracting do you smile? Do you look at her in such a way that shows interest? Do you converse in a flirtatious manner, not just friendly stuff... girls want to have a guy who can give them a good time and make them feel special. Talking to her as a friend won't get you anywhere, unless your goal is to come off as gay. Yea, I'm single. Looking for someone special...sure...and when I do flirt with women, this whole gay vibe thing is never an issue. It's only when I don't approach with dating in mind, either because they are already taken or are 30 years older than me or there isn't mutual interest, that this comes up.
sally4sara Posted May 29, 2010 Posted May 29, 2010 I'm thinking it has little to do with Hokie coming off gay and more to do with it being DC and there being a LOT of gay guys in DC.
runner Posted May 29, 2010 Posted May 29, 2010 That's a good point. There aren't any gays in the military, esp the Marines. Nor any who have any homosexual characteristics or tendencies... nice
Eeyore79 Posted May 29, 2010 Posted May 29, 2010 Big NO-No... arched eyebrows...they can clean out the uni-brow but that's all !!! Plucked and arched eyebrows are the Number One thing which make me assume a man is gay. Every man who plucks his eyebrows into a feminine arch is automatically labelled as gay in my book. Even if he turns out not to be gay, I still wouldn't date him because he would just be too feminine and I wouldn't want people to assume my bf is gay (which they would, if I also assumed that when I met him).
eric82 Posted May 29, 2010 Posted May 29, 2010 A few years ago a new secretary at the place I worked apparently asked my co-workers if I was gay. They told me she wondered because I never chatted with her, talked about girls, or checked her out like the other guys. I wasn't attracted to her, but she also liked to gossip and had an annoying personality, so I tended to avoid her. Plus at that point in my life, I was bummed about my ex-gf having dumped me (but of course I kept that to myself). Other than that, I can't really recall being mistaken for gay. I know what you're talking about though. It's just a case of a girl being confused that you're not showing her the type of attention that she's used to getting from other straight guys.
brokenblade Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 "Sadly, the following: you don't burp in publicyou don't scratch yourself in publicare in good shapedon't grab them physically after a few encountersyou don't like them as much as they think you shouldyou want to wait to have sexyou don't stare at their intentionally exposed cleavageI blame feminism, but then again, I blame feminism for most of the bad crap that happens in the western world. big, BIG F**K!!! I fall in 7 out of 7 categories. I'm screwed!!! " And then if you do grab them or stare at them, you will get sexual harassment charges. The italics are stuck for some reason. wtf
GrayClouds Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 As far as dress, I'm normally in a fitted solid color t-shirt, jeans, and sneakers. If I'm going out some place nicer, I'll replace the t-shirt with a fitted dress shirt with neatly rolled up sleeves. I don't wear any accessories other than a watch. So in essence, I dress very plainly, but my clothes fit well. Vs A "t" that passed the stink test from the hamper, ripped jeans and some boots or not to wrinkled button down with sleeves pushed up with no other crap, maybe a watch set 5 min ahead of bar time. You know whatever I can find that somewhat fits. Try it for a month, with confidence, it may surprise you.
Engadget Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 Vs Try it for a month, with confidence, it may surprise you. Yeah Gray, but some women like the "metrosexual" thing, which I don't think USMC is but they do. I think I own the same clothes I did two years ago
Author USMCHokie Posted May 30, 2010 Author Posted May 30, 2010 Vs Try it for a month, with confidence, it may surprise you. Hmmm, this is interesting...but I honestly don't think it bothers me enough for me to do this...hahah...
Art_Critic Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 After reading the posts I'm inclined to agree with the posters who said you have a wingman problem.. Just curious though.. Have you tried to hit on Erica ?
threebyfate Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 Hokie, the average hetero male leans towards being emotionally stoic. From your posts on LS, you don't come across as such.
Author USMCHokie Posted May 30, 2010 Author Posted May 30, 2010 Hokie, the average hetero male leans towards being emotionally stoic. From your posts on LS, you don't come across as such. I actually had to look this up...so is that a bad thing...?
Author USMCHokie Posted May 30, 2010 Author Posted May 30, 2010 After reading the posts I'm inclined to agree with the posters who said you have a wingman problem.. Just curious though.. Have you tried to hit on Erica ? No, we friend-zoned each other early on.
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