Woggle Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 With all due respect it does sound like you have serious issues with men in general. Just because a woman is in love does not mean she is some doormat out to cowtow to men. You sound like the female version of a man who thinks every man with a girlfriend is whipped. I am sorry this girl is not enough of a liberated feminist to suit your tastes but it is her life and this is the direction she chose. Let her live it. You are not much than what you accuse men of being because you seem to know what it best for another person. I also find it funny how certain posters in here all modern and feminist but in past threads have said it's a man's job to be the provider and be chivalrous. Yet another case of a woman wanting it both ways.
BS76 Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 Of course any guy that took her in with a car and a job would make her happy to get out of her parents home...its pure evident. And I am a family member and I will protect my family through any thing I feel is wrong and I will voice my opinion but it doesnt change my love for them..its just shows my care and surely not jealous! FYI this is 2010 not the 20's where womens only role is in the home..no young women should have to settle down and please a man...they should love theirselves first then worry about a man. You do realize that plenty of people get satisfaction by pleasing others, particularly their SO. That's not something you should be feeling threatened by as if it's something you have to "save" a woman from. Wanting your SO to be happy is a good and healthy thing for successful relationships to occur.
Jersey Shortie Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 You guys continue to ignore the facts she presented about the situation and are instead choosing to focus on attacking the OP just because you don't like the fact that she doesn't like her brother sleeping with teenagers. You can sit here and prattle on about your personal mascunilinty because you want to be banging 19 year olds and you want to give props to other men that do or you can be honest about the situation she presented with the facts and issues since there are clearly many of them.
Citizen Erased Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 You guys continue to ignore the facts she presented about the situation and are instead choosing to focus on attacking the OP just because you don't like the fact that she doesn't like her brother sleeping with teenagers. You can sit here and prattle on about your personal mascunilinty because you want to be banging 19 year olds and you want to give props to other men that do or you can be honest about the situation she presented with the facts and issues since there are clearly many of them. Perhaps people would take her seriously if she didn't call posters of this forum that find nothing wrong with consensual sex between two ADULTS pedophiles. But I guess because you're a man hating feminazi and she fuels your agenda you can ignore that part.
Jersey Shortie Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 Umm...i never called anyone a pedophile or a man a name. But I'm a man hating feminazi why? Because like many of the men on this board, you included, I talk about the issues I find with the opposite sex? Disagree with my view, talk about the issue. But when you start making personal immature attacks that have nothing to do with anything, you only make yourself look foolish. We are all adults, no reason for name calling just because we don't agree on the subject.
Woggle Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 Last time I checked CE was not a man. She is just a fair minded woman which is something we need more of.
Green Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 Perhaps people would take her seriously if she didn't call posters of this forum that find nothing wrong with consensual sex between two ADULTS pedophiles. But I guess because you're a man hating feminazi and she fuels your agenda you can ignore that part. This post is spot on even after you pointed out that the OP has been calling guys who don't agree with her Pedos Jersey Shortie still has no idea Umm...i never called anyone a pedophile or a man a name. But I'm a man hating feminazi why? Because like many of the men on this board, you included, I talk about the issues I find with the opposite sex? Disagree with my view, talk about the issue. But when you start making personal immature attacks that have nothing to do with anything, you only make yourself look foolish. We are all adults, no reason for name calling just because we don't agree on the subject. No you didn't call any one a pedo but you agreed with the views of a poster who multiple times said it was pedophilia to date 19 year olds. So you hate men so much that you think its an insult to compare CE to us? hmmm You yourself have only resorted to name calling... Still no one has yet to explain to me why a 19 year old girl can't turn a man down herself... I mean they do it all the time... The girl herself needs to be the one saying no... you really can't expect men to say no to a date with a 19 year old if they are otherwise single and themselves don't have a problem with it. Seriously do you want the laws re-written? "MEN over 30 shall go to jail for sleeping with girls under 26".... Is that what you want??? I seriously don't think it is such a huge social taboo and it seems like every one who disagrees has resorted to name calling mostly "CREEP" and then "Pedo" got thrown around Last time I checked CE was not a man. She is just a fair minded woman which is something we need more of. I think Jersey knows she is not a man but just refered to her as a Man because according to her it is an insult
janie423 Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 Perhaps people would take her seriously if she didn't call posters of this forum that find nothing wrong with consensual sex between two ADULTS pedophiles. But I guess because you're a man hating feminazi and she fuels your agenda you can ignore that part. this is a tasteless verbal barb and is completely uncalled for . . .
Green Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 this is a tasteless verbal barb and is completely uncalled for . . . haha what about calling people pedophiles who don't agree with your views on "My brother is robbing the cradle" haha does that not bother you
janie423 Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 haha what about calling people pedophiles who don't agree with your views on "My brother is robbing the cradle" haha does that not bother you okay Green, that is not totally accurate either, I agree, but that doesn't call for retaliatory comments like that . . . it is not pedophilia by law but the perception is that it is "creepy" . . . and let's face it, if this 19 year old were in college or trade school, maybe had goals in life, the OP would more than likely not have as much as an issue. but if you had a brother who could possibly end up paying child support for the rest of his life because of a situation like this you might feel differently . . . so expand your mind a little here . . .
Green Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 okay Green, that is not totally accurate either, I agree, but that doesn't call for retaliatory comments like that . . . Its not even retaliatory this is the silly tone of this entire thread it is not pedophilia by law but the perception is that it is "creepy" . . . and let's face it, if this 19 year old were in college or trade school, maybe had goals in life, the OP would more than likely not have as much as an issue. Creepy means nothing to me. Its an insult women throw at men for a number of different reasons. but if you had a brother who could possibly end up paying child support for the rest of his life because of a situation like this you might feel differently . . . so expand your mind a little here . . . I have expanded my mind, her brother is 10 years older then her... He is not going to listen to her. He may come to this conclusion himself, otherwise there is nothing she can do. Calling him a creep or saying he uses women or is a pedophile will only show how imature she is. I'm not about to pertend that age gaps of 10 years or more can't work out... because they do work out all the time. "robbing the cradle" is such a silly idea, if you ask some one out on a date and they say yes then it is between those two people.
Citizen Erased Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 Umm...i never called anyone a pedophile or a man a name. But I'm a man hating feminazi why? Because like many of the men on this board, you included, I talk about the issues I find with the opposite sex? Disagree with my view, talk about the issue. But when you start making personal immature attacks that have nothing to do with anything, you only make yourself look foolish. We are all adults, no reason for name calling just because we don't agree on the subject. I never said you called anyone a pedohphile, I was referring to the OP. As for the rest, I'm female by the way, not sure if you got that, I guess over the years on here you haven't realised you're in fact viewed as the female version of Woggle. I'm surprised, at 22, I'm counted as an adult. If 19 is pretty much a child, I'm not far off. So guess I'm immature, that's fine. I'd much rather be me than live as you.
Citizen Erased Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 Last time I checked CE was not a man. She is just a fair minded woman which is something we need more of. Last time I checked too.
Jersey Shortie Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 No you didn't call any one a pedo but you agreed with the views of a poster who multiple times said it was pedophilia to date 19 year olds. So you hate men so much that you think its an insult to compare CE to us? hmmm Don't twist my opinion around to try and suit your convoluted rationalization. Infact, right in this very thread I said that while I wouldn't go as far to say it's "creepy" I certainly don't think it's healthy. Get your facts straight before you start making unfounded accusations. It was my very first post in this thread and should be on page 2 I think. It's easy to find if you look for the bright red "jon stewart" box first. And yes, I think it's an unhealthy situation when a man that age is dating teenagers. You don't have to agree but you don't get to call me names for it or say insideious completely ridiculous, non-sensical, has nothing to do with the topic comments as "you hate men so much.." Get a grip. You still fail to acknowledge the other issues the OP presented in the situation. Such as this 32 year old man doesn't seem to have much direction in life, smokes weed and plays alot of xbox. You yourself have only resorted to name calling... Where did I call anyone a name? Stop pulling this childish bs Green. It's getting old. Still no one has yet to explain to me why a 19 year old girl can't turn a man down herself... I mean they do it all the time... The girl herself needs to be the one saying no... you really can't expect men to say no to a date with a 19 year old if they are otherwise single and themselves don't have a problem with it. Seriously do you want the laws re-written? "MEN over 30 shall go to jail for sleeping with girls under 26".... Is that what you want??? I seriously don't think it is such a huge social taboo and it seems like every one who disagrees has resorted to name calling mostly "CREEP" and then "Pedo" got thrown around I don't remember anyone saying laws should be rewritten. I believe in God. Doesn't mean I think laws should be made against people who don't. I'm allowed my opinion. And while I acknowledge that 18 is considered legal, I stand by my point that when a grown adult man relates to teenage girls, there are issues. Either a lack of maturity on his part, or a predatory relationship where he feels superior possibly. Now I can understand why women or men would consider it " creepy"...although I wouldn't say it's "pedo". But if the girl looks 12/14/16....there might be a reason this man is targeting that kind of girl that looks young. I never said you called anyone a pedohphile, I was referring to the OP. No, but you insinuated I made defamatory comments about men and I didn't. You thought it okay to call me a name, while you berated the OP for calling other names. AAs for the rest, I'm female by the way, not sure if you got that, I guess over the years on here you haven't realised you're in fact viewed as the female version of Woggle. I'm surprised, at 22, I'm counted as an adult. If 19 is pretty much a child, I'm not far off. So guess I'm immature, that's fine. I'd much rather be me than live as you. No, I didn't get that. I did think you were a guy. However, it doesn't change any of the points I made before. They still apply except for the part about you being a guy. The fact that you want to focus on my mistaking you for being a guy instead of what we were really talking about is funny. As for what is considered a child or adult, as I said earlier, I changed alot from 19-25. I think that's universally true. No where did I say at 19 you are a child. However, at 19, one isn't exactly completely mature yet either. You can not deny that someone has vastly more experiences at 32 over even the most mature of 19 year olds. Again, you don't have to agree. Disagree with my opinion, but don't resort to lame personal attacks and crybaby comments like "I'm so happy I'm me!" comments. What do I care if you are more happy to be you then who you think I am? I certainly don't have any desire to be you. Regardless, this has nothing to do with the topic. When you resort to personal attacks, you only make yourself look silly. I am really happy for you that you are happy to be you though. You Go Girl?
Woggle Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 I don't think she is the female version of me. I would have no issue with a 30 year old woman dating a 19 year old man. 19 is old enough to vote and fight for your country so why should it not be old enough to make an informed choice about who you want to date?
Ilovehim Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 Don't twist my opinion around to try and suit your convoluted rationalization. Infact, right in this very thread I said that while I wouldn't go as far to say it's "creepy" I certainly don't think it's healthy. Get your facts straight before you start making unfounded accusations. It was my very first post in this thread and should be on page 2 I think. It's easy to find if you look for the bright red "jon stewart" box first. And yes, I think it's an unhealthy situation when a man that age is dating teenagers. You don't have to agree but you don't get to call me names for it or say insideious completely ridiculous, non-sensical, has nothing to do with the topic comments as "you hate men so much.." Get a grip. You still fail to acknowledge the other issues the OP presented in the situation. Such as this 32 year old man doesn't seem to have much direction in life, smokes weed and plays alot of xbox. Where did I call anyone a name? Stop pulling this childish bs Green. It's getting old. I don't remember anyone saying laws should be rewritten. I believe in God. Doesn't mean I think laws should be made against people who don't. I'm allowed my opinion. And while I acknowledge that 18 is considered legal, I stand by my point that when a grown adult man relates to teenage girls, there are issues. Either a lack of maturity on his part, or a predatory relationship where he feels superior possibly. Now I can understand why women or men would consider it " creepy"...although I wouldn't say it's "pedo". But if the girl looks 12/14/16....there might be a reason this man is targeting that kind of girl that looks young. No, but you insinuated I made defamatory comments about men and I didn't. You thought it okay to call me a name, while you berated the OP for calling other names. A No, I didn't get that. I did think you were a guy. However, it doesn't change any of the points I made before. They still apply except for the part about you being a guy. The fact that you want to focus on my mistaking you for being a guy instead of what we were really talking about is funny. As for what is considered a child or adult, as I said earlier, I changed alot from 19-25. I think that's universally true. No where did I say at 19 you are a child. However, at 19, one isn't exactly completely mature yet either. You can not deny that someone has vastly more experiences at 32 over even the most mature of 19 year olds. Again, you don't have to agree. Disagree with my opinion, but don't resort to lame personal attacks and crybaby comments like "I'm so happy I'm me!" comments. What do I care if you are more happy to be you then who you think I am? I certainly don't have any desire to be you. Regardless, this has nothing to do with the topic. When you resort to personal attacks, you only make yourself look silly. I am really happy for you that you are happy to be you though. You Go Girl? I LOVE THIS RESPONSE! GET EMMMMM! LOL You go girl!
Zed Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 Yeah she is immature she doesnt even have a car or job. She has about 100 guy friends in her phone that she texts constantly. They have nothing in common. I think my brother is siick for not dating someone his own age! She is using him for a place to live and a ride in my opinion. My brother isnt rich but I think the girl needs to date men her own age! Really statistics say getting married that young chances are your gonna grow and change and end up divorced! Yes. There is a lot of legitimate science out there that has illustrated that the human brain is not even fully developed until around the age of 25. That means all the neural circuitry for impulse control and decision making, for example, is not even fully functional until well into your 20’s. Therefore if this girl is hanging out with your brother at 19, by brain standards she is still growing and is less likely to make rational well thought out decisions compared to say a 35 year old brain even though the law sees her as a full-fledged adult. Also you have to factor in nurture issues as well as socio-economic background—how they grew up, class, etc which will effect decision making. Thus, she may see the relationship differently if they are still together and she get older. If your brother is taking chemical enhancements or has low esteem or has had issues with women, psychologically that would have arrested his development as well. Still even though the brain stops growing, there is neuroplasticity thus he can modify and change neural circuitry. It doesn’t sound like he wants to make changes, since neither participant has any real direction in their lives right now.
Green Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 By the way this guy is 12 years older then this girl and they dated http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20071115/293.panettiere.ventimiglia.111507.jpg
Author juniperjo Posted May 30, 2010 Author Posted May 30, 2010 By the way this guy is 12 years older then this girl and they dated http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20071115/293.panettiere.ventimiglia.111507.jpg and they didnt last!
Green Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 (edited) and they didnt last! They rarely last when they meet on the set of a tv show or movie. So why did that picture you posted get deleted. the one I said the girl looked 12 in... putting up pictures of little girls are we? http://blog.zap2it.com/thedishrag/legacyimages/photos/uncategorized/2009/01/27/mickeyrourkeevanrachelwood_toronto_.jpg Edited May 30, 2010 by Green
Author juniperjo Posted May 30, 2010 Author Posted May 30, 2010 They rarely last when they meet on the set of a tv show or movie. So why did that picture you posted get deleted. the one I said the girl looked 12 in... putting up pictures of little girls are we? http://blog.zap2it.com/thedishrag/legacyimages/photos/uncategorized/2009/01/27/mickeyrourkeevanrachelwood_toronto_.jpg GREEN the pic i put up was MY BROTHERS 19 yr old GIRLFRIEND! and i didnt know you commented she looked 12...by the time i returned my post of the pic was flagged and deleted against LS rules which i understand. I posted that pic to show you how kidlike she is and needs to grow up before pursuing a relatinship. better yet i have other pics of her and him together which looks quite odd..my whole point is grown men should chase teenagers..they are merely children who graduated highschool and need life exp to gain the maturity before dating grown men who wanna play house and make babies!
Green Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 GREEN the pic i put up was MY BROTHERS 19 yr old GIRLFRIEND! and i didnt know you commented she looked 12...by the time i returned my post of the pic was flagged and deleted against LS rules which i understand. I posted that pic to show you how kidlike she is and needs to grow up before pursuing a relatinship. better yet i have other pics of her and him together which looks quite odd..my whole point is grown men should chase teenagers..they are merely children who graduated highschool and need life exp to gain the maturity before dating grown men who wanna play house and make babies! well other then putting ur own pic up wich I'm sure we'd all be curiouse to see... its not cool putting other peoples pics up so I can see why some one flagged it... plus she did look 12... but if she is 19 it is perfectly legal. I personaly wouldn't date her but I'm not up for calling ur bro a creep or pedo. Plus if you and ur brother are close it would be a shame for this to get in the way
Author juniperjo Posted May 31, 2010 Author Posted May 31, 2010 well other then putting ur own pic up wich I'm sure we'd all be curiouse to see... its not cool putting other peoples pics up so I can see why some one flagged it... plus she did look 12... but if she is 19 it is perfectly legal. I personaly wouldn't date her but I'm not up for calling ur bro a creep or pedo. Plus if you and ur brother are close it would be a shame for this to get in the way I have never in my life encountered such an argumentative man/boy in my entire life to the point where you open up your own thread about this subject. Would love somehow to put my pic up or my broothers ex and see howmuch he downgraded in the looks department. Usually men 12 years older than a 18 yr old have very little in common other than sex unless he is in a midlife crisis or peterpan syndrome. Why would grown men bother dating girls that in the long run are going to change and find a hotter younger guy eventually? I say in this case is he needs an ego boost and she needs a home. My brother laughs this all off so i dont offend him at all. he knows Im outspoken in this matter. But to take an innocent girls youth at the benefit of your desires is creepy and disgusting and i am allowed my own opinion. Im sure when you get out of shape, loose your teeth, bald and cant get it up your younger woman prob will A. Cheat or B. leave you for someone much better.
MixedMinh Posted May 31, 2010 Posted May 31, 2010 Your heart doesn't decide what age groups to love. That being said, it's logically improbable for both of you to be completely compatible as she is limited to her experience in life and you have many years of experience on her. To counter that fact, love is illogical and in my own opinion, is not worth it unless you are taking a risk of faith, which you would have to do. It's likely that she will not to share all her new experiences with you in the next 5 years unless she wants to be sheltered to one relationship. I vote that anybody who finds this "creepy" has just been influenced by society. If this wasn't an abnormal situation then you wouldn't find this to be "creepy". But I am a little skeptical about what exactly you fall in "love" with a 19 year old. Even at 25 I feel as though the experiences I have been through separates me from a lot of girls who aren't at least 21. Good luck either way, I say you should enjoy it while it lasts.
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