Mary3 Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 I think its a mentally unstable thing . I knew a lady who reeked havoc everyday at work,. Crying jigs , insults , security was called. She was way off balance. I believe she was mentally ill... I think these women ( if we choose to just talk about women for sake of reasoning ) are emotionally immature , likely had drama ( daddy beats mama every night ) daddy drinks , mama uses drugs , whatever the bad scenario. I had a friend when I was 5 years old . Her parents were alchoholics and they would physically fight almost every night and set their couch onto the lawn ( because it was on fire ) because the dad got drunk and started the couch on fire with lit cigarette. I have lost touch with her many years ago but I often wonder if she had drama in her adult life , ie : drunk husband , beater , ect. I think trash breeds trash. A person who acts like a low life and is on Cops everynight just turns my stomach .. So yes I do feel adversity towards those who hang out on the corner selling drugs and causing street fights ...screaming and yelling at cops who come into protect the community from them... So yes I have zero tolerance for drama , low lifes and trashy acting people.
carhill Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 Why would you bring this into discussion if its not happening in your own home ? He's in therapy right now and, IME, part of the therapy process is clarifying dynamics which one finds unhealthy and then accepting that unhealthiness as part of the therapeutic process. I dealt with similar issues in MC. To myself and many men women just overanalyze everything and pick apart every minute detail until their is nothing left. If you fiddle and tinker with something too much you will eventually destroy it. Do any women just enjoy life and enjoy time as a couple without feeling the need to pick at everything?*Some* women do (overanalyze/pick apart); some don't. The key is acceptance. If your path is 'drama free/drama light', then that is your path. When you run into a 'drama heavy/drama always' person, male or female, they're just not on your path. They don't exist in your world. If you happen to end up married to them, and you can't resolve the path, divorce. I've found that letting go of all those dramatic people changes their lives in no way whatsoever; they continue on as if I never existed. I think that's instructive. Good luck
Mary3 Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 I personally feel Woggle attracts all the things he posts here. The many posts he complains about mostly women ... If he is in therapy, GOOD ! Hopefully someday he can see women in such a more non hateful way than he does now...
climbergirl Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 Personally, I am not afraid of being 'content'. But my definition of content is appreciation of the person you are with. I'm inferring your definition of 'content' to mean settling. So yes, with that either comes intense arguing or non at all. So of course these relationships won't last because you are never really happy or just don't care enough to work on it.
Pyro Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 And the majority of women want drama in their relationship. and you know this how? I'd love to see the proof that you have. From the looks of the many many threads that Woggle starts, he is the one who has a problem with being content. Sounds like he likes the drama, otherwise he will get bored.
St. Nick Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 and you know this how? I'd love to see the proof that you have. From the looks of the many many threads that Woggle starts, he is the one who has a problem with being content. Sounds like he likes the drama, otherwise he will get bored. I know this from the number of women who have specifically said they or their friends sometimes start drama in a relationship because they consider it too boring. And you're the one to talk: how is it even possible to get over 20,000 posts on a dating site and expect people to take you seriously? Jeez dude, the real world isn't a bad thing to live in once you get used to it. Some of us actually get most of our experiences about women from the internet; maybe that's why our opinion on women differ from your opinion, because we our opinion from reality, not some internet forum.
Mary3 Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 and you know this how? I'd love to see the proof that you have. From the looks of the many many threads that Woggle starts, he is the one who has a problem with being content. Sounds like he likes the drama, otherwise he will get bored. * and * when he posts a thread that is a hot bed of contempt , he seems to disappear for while....did you notice that ?
Mary3 Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 I know this from the number of women who have specifically said they or their friends sometimes start drama in a relationship because they consider it too boring. And you're the one to talk: how is it even possible to get over 20,000 posts on a dating site and expect people to take you seriously? Jeez dude, the real world isn't a bad thing to live in once you get used to it. Some of us actually get most of our experiences about women from the internet; maybe that's why our opinion on women differ from your opinion, because we our opinion from reality, not some internet forum. This is not a * dating site *. It is a dating forum . Pyro helps with all forums from dating to marriage . Pyro posts because of knowledge....
Crazy Magnet Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 I know this from the number of women who have specifically said they or their friends sometimes start drama in a relationship because they consider it too boring. And you're the one to talk: how is it even possible to get over 20,000 posts on a dating site and expect people to take you seriously? Jeez dude, the real world isn't a bad thing to live in once you get used to it. Some of us actually get most of our experiences about women from the internet; maybe that's why our opinion on women differ from your opinion, because we our opinion from reality, not some internet forum. Are you 15? If not, perhaps consider surrounding yourself with more mature individuals. I abhor drama in both friendships and relationships. I do expect to disagree with my BF, it would be unnatural to bop along in lala land all the time. We disagree, we talk about it, and we move on. This is how it's done in all the successful relationships I know of both romantic and platonic. I agree with the earlier poster who said that she's been through the R where she tried and tried to get certain behaviors to change, finally gave up, and then realized by giving up she was checking out of the relationship while the guy probably went along thinking "Ahah! She's totally fine since she stopped complaining" when the reality was much different. I've been through that too. The guy seemed to be blind sided when I ended things but to me I could not see how he would miss such an obvious sign. If I suddenly cease to care about something that was a deal breaker before, it's not that I gave it, it's that I stopped caring about the R enough to care about the deal breaker.
FitChick Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 (edited) I want peace and contentment and security. If there is constant conflict and drama, it just tells me I am in the wrong relationship and I get out. Edited May 24, 2010 by FitChick
donnamaybe Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 and you know this how? I'd love to see the proof that you have. From the looks of the many many threads that Woggle starts, he is the one who has a problem with being content. Sounds like he likes the drama, otherwise he will get bored. Spot on.
sweetjasmine Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 Are you 15? If not, perhaps consider surrounding yourself with more mature individuals. No f-ing kidding. Crazy people attract crazy people, and that's all they ever see. Unstable people attract unstable people, and that's all they ever see. Unhappy people attract unhappy people, and that's all they ever see. I highly doubt Woggle ever gives a passing thought to the few people he might know who aren't psychologically messed up and unstable, so of course that's all he sees. When one of those two psycho c-nts at work says something, he blows up and goes crazy, but if someone else says something normal and healthy, it doesn't even register. If you're blind to all that's good, of course all you're going to see is crap. If you refuse to change, fine, but stop insisting that the entire world is how you see it when your perspective is severely skewed and you're deliberately cherry picking your bits of evidence.
Mary3 Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 I want peace and contentment and security. If there is constant conflict and drama, it just tells me I am in the wrong relationship and I get out.[/QUOTE] Beauuuuuuuuuuuuuutifully Spoken !
St. Nick Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 This is not a * dating site *. It is a dating forum . Pyro helps with all forums from dating to marriage . Pyro posts because of knowledge.... A man with real world experiences is always going to have more knowledge than an internet Dr. Phil any day of the week. Back on topic, I think most women are unhappy because they hold ridiculously high standards for damn near everything in their lives. i.e. a wife complains that her husband doesn't do the dishes; then when he does it she complains of the way he does the dishes. It's little things like that where a woman feels the relationship needs to be done perfectly which will create the unnecessary arguments and tensions in relationships.
donnamaybe Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 A man with real world experiences is always going to have more knowledge than an internet Dr. Phil any day of the week. Back on topic, I think most women are unhappy because they hold ridiculously high standards for damn near everything in their lives. i.e. a wife complains that her husband doesn't do the dishes; then when he does it she complains of the way he does the dishes. It's little things like that where a woman feels the relationship needs to be done perfectly which will create the unnecessary arguments and tensions in relationships. And your "real world experience" comes from....? Do you even HAVE a girlfriend?
sweetjasmine Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 And your "real world experience" comes from....? Reading men's complaints on LS while ignoring threads started by women.
espec10001 Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 Women are content with a bowl of their favorite ice cream! Ain't that riiiight?
Mary3 Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 Women are content with a bowl of their favorite ice cream! Ain't that riiiight? Hey sexy
Mary3 Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 The one thing I have always noticed about Woggle : He will post something negative about women , such as they all cheat , or they all lie ( example only ) and then if you ask him if his wife is doing it to him he will say NO ! So whats the point of complaining if you have a perfectly lovely healthy wife who is your great love Woggle ?
donnamaybe Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 Reading men's complaints on LS while ignoring threads started by women. Sounds about right. I mean, even in the example provided, sure some guys will begrudgingly do the dishes - when asked (as if it's a woman's divinely appointed chore so that she should HAVE to ask ). Then MANY guys, in order to never be asked again, will PURPOSELY do a lousy job. I don't know about any OTHER guys, but who wants to eat off dirty dishes? MY guy sees something that needs cleaned and he has the time, he cleans it. It isn't some contest whereby he plays this waiting game to see if I'll do it first. In other words: he's an adult. Two adults in a relationship = contentment.
CLC2008 Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 So whats the point of complaining if you have a perfectly lovely healthy wife who is your great love Woggle ? Because he's bored, I would imagine....
carhill Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 So whats the point of complaining if you have a perfectly lovely healthy wife who is your great love Woggle ? I have a feeling his therapy is about his past relationships with women, like his mother and the ex who shot at him. He's still working through that stuff and it will take time. I'm noticing small changes in his posting tone, changes which remind me of the work I did in therapy. Hopefully, these are signs of the beginnings of acceptance; he needs to accept that those women are not every woman and their abuses can not and should not rule him, rather help him to erect healthy boundaries. My instinct is, at some elemental level, he's still living in the drama of the past, even though he hates it. Therapy will help if he wants it to. I hope he does and it does. He's lucky to have a patient and supportive lady at his side.
Mary3 Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 Thats true : As long as Woggle carries all this baggage then he allows it to control his life , such as his many postings here....
donnamaybe Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 I have a feeling his therapy is about his past relationships with women, like his mother and the ex who shot at him. He's still working through that stuff and it will take time. I'm noticing small changes in his posting tone, changes which remind me of the work I did in therapy. Hopefully, these are signs of the beginnings of acceptance; he needs to accept that those women are not every woman and their abuses can not and should not rule him, rather help him to erect healthy boundaries. My instinct is, at some elemental level, he's still living in the drama of the past, even though he hates it. Therapy will help if he wants it to. I hope he does and it does. He's lucky to have a patient and supportive lady at his side. I'm sure we all recognize the situation, but how can it POSSIBLY help when he purposely goes on misandrist websites and immerses himself in the hatefulness therein? All he's doing with that type of activity is prolonging the healing process.
Pyro Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 I know this from the number of women who have specifically said they or their friends sometimes start drama in a relationship because they consider it too boring. And you're the one to talk: how is it even possible to get over 20,000 posts on a dating site and expect people to take you seriously? Jeez dude, the real world isn't a bad thing to live in once you get used to it. Some of us actually get most of our experiences about women from the internet; maybe that's why our opinion on women differ from your opinion, because we our opinion from reality, not some internet forum. and I know from the number of women I have talked to. That makes us even in that regard;) Unlike you I have numerous female friends, so its very convenient for me to get info from them. I also have had numerous committed relationships myself and from what I have read over the years here on LS, which in case that skipped by you is a relationship forum for those having issues with their relationships. I have over 20,000 posts because I get lots of feedback from my advice/opinions over the years. People ask me questions and I ask them questions. I've had plenty of real world experience, possibly more than you. * and * when he posts a thread that is a hot bed of contempt , he seems to disappear for while....did you notice that ? all the time. He will never come back to acknowledge it either. He will treat it as a new day and only acknowledge those who share the same or similar negative beliefs as his own. That or he will fire back with "this is what I have seen" That is his universal answer to everything. Not very good for his therapy. This is not a * dating site *. It is a dating forum . Pyro helps with all forums from dating to marriage . Pyro posts because of knowledge.... Thank you;) Spot on. Refer to my reply above.
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