sagetalk Posted May 22, 2010 Posted May 22, 2010 Nice guys, get the girl! Part 2 Ok, part 1 was a brief introduction into generating initial attraction in a girl. But not just any girl, the girls with lots of options. Will you fail alot, yes. But who cares, if you're 60 years old and looking at your wife and saying, "Man, she's still hot", you'll thank me . I covered the most important topics in the previous thread and that is: be a challenge, why jerks get girls, and don't go mushy too soon. I'm going to pick up on the last one now. The major reason you never want to get mushy too soon is that it is not manly. If you're going after a girl in full makeup, pink clothes, and high heels, then the odds are she's feminine (yes I know girls in jeans can be feminine too please don't post that). That means she wants you to be masculine. If she isn't feminine then I'd suggest finding another girl, or get advice on how to get those girls. Repeat after me, "I am the prize!" You are not a jerk, if she falls for you, you will never cheat on her. You have a cool family that you love and spend time with, good job, you're educated. You won't talk to naked girls on Skype, or go nail the tattoo artist girl downtown. You won't make her get a third job to pay for your gambling habit. No, you're a decent guy that wants a girl to call his own, treat her well, and be faithful to her. Well, if that's true, then you are a prize. IF you can get her to physically want you like those jerks do. Few attractive girls care about anything I wrote above except the attraction part. Everything else is just icing on the cake. You can be the greatest guy in the world, but if she doesn't want you physically/sexually, you are toast. Remember, physical want from a women means you turn her on by your actions, not your looks. So do you get it now, are you thinking "I'm a prize"? I hope so. With this in mind, go after the girls that you like the most. I don't care if they are a 1 or a 10, if you are physically attracted to them and like them, go for it. You can find out later if they are good for you or not. Don't ever find out by being their friend, find out by going on dates with them and asking them fun questions that make them feel accepted, wanted, appreciated, most importantly hot for you. If you do not feel a connection, or she just won't work with you (too negative, doesn't want to answer questions, looks bored) find another girl immediately. Don't try to make it work and let her humiliate you. Don't look at her in the first few dates as "The One", look at her as someone who may be cool or may be lame. Just because she's physically attractive does not mean she's cool or good for you. I bet there are millions of men who can tell you how they fell for that crap and regret it. Only let "The One" feelings become visible in your mind when she starts saying things like, "I'd marry you", "I could see us being together for a long time", "What do you think about us for the long term?", "Am I good enough for you?", "I can't wait any longer, are we gonna get serious with this relationship or not?". If she is saying things like this, you are now free to entertain those thoughts and NOT A MOMENT BEFORE EVER! If you are a prize, then she must want you in a long term relationship first. She must feel it and say it first. Because if she says it and you don't feel it yet, there is still hope. If you say it and she doesn't feel it, you probably just lost her forever. Hot girls hate it when guys like them more then they like them. That's not unique, it's boring, and she thinks she's too much of a woman for your lack of manliness. Emotions are her department, if you try to take them from her, she will be turned off. I can't type anymore right now. Maybe I'll do a part 3 later.
tigressA Posted May 22, 2010 Posted May 22, 2010 I like this. I agree with it for the most part, except for the "feeling and saying it first" thing. I quite like it when a guy I'm into brings up our status without prompting. I could go either way, though. Usually I am the first to bring it up--I can be a bit impatient, especially when I really like someone.
SilentVoice Posted May 22, 2010 Posted May 22, 2010 I don't actually like the fact that I agree with your post but I digress.
lotus118 Posted July 13, 2010 Posted July 13, 2010 Sagetalk, First and foremost, thanks a lot for commenting on my threads, they mean a lot to me. And yes, that is me in the avatar. Secondly, after reading the two threads you posted, it sounds a lot like a book I am currently reading called "The Game" by Neil Strauss. I know its catered to a male audience per se, especially since it is about the world's best pickup artists but the best way to beat the system is to understand it and if that means reading AskMen.com over Cosmo, so be it.
Confused100 Posted July 13, 2010 Posted July 13, 2010 So do you get it now, are you thinking "I'm a prize"? I hope so. With this in mind, go after the girls that you like the most. I don't care if they are a 1 or a 10, if you are physically attracted to them and like them, go for it. You can find out later if they are good for you or not. Don't ever find out by being their friend, find out by going on dates with them and asking them fun questions that make them feel accepted, wanted, appreciated, most importantly hot for you. If you do not feel a connection, or she just won't work with you (too negative, doesn't want to answer questions, looks bored) find another girl immediately. Don't try to make it work and let her humiliate you. This is something I need to start doing more. I always get trapped into the mentality that I should get to know them as friends first, i.e. find out how compatible we are via this route. But that's failed me each time so far. I guess I should just ask a girl out if I know her a little bit and am attracted to her. I meet most of them in class, so I guess I just fear that it'll become awkward afterward? I guess the advantage is that I won't have to fear losing some good friendship.
that girl Posted July 13, 2010 Posted July 13, 2010 I agree with some of this and disagree with some of this. The major reason you never want to get mushy too soon is that it is not manly. If you're going after a girl in full makeup, pink clothes, and high heels, then the odds are she's feminine (yes I know girls in jeans can be feminine too please don't post that). Maybe it is a matter of where I've lived but the full make-up wearing, pink clothes and high heels is a pretty narrow subset of women unless you are limiting yourself to bars. It would be rare for either a college girl or a young professional to look like this outside of a club and even then pink clothes wouldn't be part of it. Repeat after me, "I am the prize!" You are not a jerk, if she falls for you, you will never cheat on her. You have a cool family that you love and spend time with, good job, you're educated. You won't talk to naked girls on Skype, or go nail the tattoo artist girl downtown. You won't make her get a third job to pay for your gambling habit. No, you're a decent guy that wants a girl to call his own, treat her well, and be faithful to her. Well, if that's true, then you are a prize. This is a pretty healthy way of looking at yourself as worthwhile. Few attractive girls care about anything I wrote above except the attraction part. Everything else is just icing on the cake. You can be the greatest guy in the world, but if she doesn't want you physically/sexually, you are toast. Remember, physical want from a women means you turn her on by your actions, not your looks. Eh, I think looks are always a big part of a woman wanting a man. Not that he has to be Brad Pitt, but there are some guys who will never have a chance with specific women because of his looks even though other girls would totally dig him. It isn't just acting right and it isn't just a 1 to 10 scale of looks. I don't care if they are a 1 or a 10, if you are physically attracted to them and like them, go for it. Yes, you never know whether or not a woman is interested unless you make a move. Don't ever find out by being their friend, Yes, way too many guys fake friendship in the hopes of getting dates and a lot of times they end up broken hearted because she was never going to be interested. Relationships do grow out of friendships but it is unusual and it is never the guy who was only there for a relationship. Don't look at her in the first few dates as "The One", look at her as someone who may be cool or may be lame. Just because she's physically attractive does not mean she's cool or good for you. No one can be the one unless you know them. The imaginary relationships people have in their head don't count. Only let "The One" feelings become visible in your mind when she starts saying things like, "I'd marry you", "I could see us being together for a long time", "What do you think about us for the long term?", "Am I good enough for you?", "I can't wait any longer, are we gonna get serious with this relationship or not?". If she is saying things like this, you are now free to entertain those thoughts and NOT A MOMENT BEFORE EVER! Some of this is crazy. It isn't a bad idea to establish the fact that you both see a relationship lasting before wonder if this person is the one. But a woman would have to be pretty desperate to start saying she'd marry you without having an established, committed relationship where "I love yous have long since been exhanged. And women with healthy self-esteem do not beg people to get serious with them. If you are a prize, then she must want you in a long term relationship first. She must feel it and say it first. Because if she says it and you don't feel it yet, there is still hope. If you say it and she doesn't feel it, you probably just lost her forever. I don't agree with this at all, it is game playing. There are women who assume that a guy who isn't talking long term after a while are players and not interested in anything serious. People should talk about long term when they have a good idea of who the person is and how the relationship might go. Dating isn't suppose to be a battle of wills. Hot girls hate it when guys like them more then they like them. That's not unique, it's boring, and she thinks she's too much of a woman for your lack of manliness. This isn't true. Hot women have a lot of men who want to sleep with them and a lot of men who want to date them because they project all kinds of fantasies on them, but like every other human being, they want someone who is into them too. For God's sake, there is a whole book out there on how women shouldn't settle for men who just aren't that into them.
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