FoxMulder Posted May 21, 2010 Posted May 21, 2010 Why don't women ever initiate anything? It's always the man who has to initiate everything and do all the work... Not just in the beggining but all the time. A woman would never ask a guy out, a woman would never initiate contact, a woman would never initiate sex and etc etc. Are men simply more intrested in women than women are in men?
Rorschach Posted May 21, 2010 Posted May 21, 2010 Why don't women ever initiate anything? It's always the man who has to initiate everything and do all the work... Not just in the beggining but all the time. A woman would never ask a guy out, a woman would never initiate contact, a woman would never initiate sex and etc etc. Are men simply more intrested in women than women are in men? No, thats just what they want you to think. Certainly some women will initiate (though the numbers do seem few) but women are just as interested as you they just want to be pursued.
Twenty-ten Posted May 21, 2010 Posted May 21, 2010 Because it sends the guy the wrong message if you pursue him, it makes him think he can just sit back and let you do all the work. Then you find yourself in a relationship with pansy of a guy who can't make decisions, who doesn't initiate actions, ( sometimes even who relies on your financially) and who is lazy when it comes to romance. What woman wants that? Nature was designed so that women seduce and entice men and men take the initiative to be the aggressors and quite frankly it works best like that.
Rorschach Posted May 21, 2010 Posted May 21, 2010 Nature was designed so that women seduce and entice men and men take the initiative to be the aggressors and quite frankly it works best like that. Works out best for women you mean. As a guy I hate always having to be the initiater, when it comes to dates, sex, anything if I always have to be the one to contact you it feels like you don't give a crap about me and that you just put up with me which may not be the truth at all but thats the message it gives out. But I can't do crud to fix that so I just shut up and initiate.
Author FoxMulder Posted May 21, 2010 Author Posted May 21, 2010 Because it sends the guy the wrong message if you pursue him, it makes him think he can just sit back and let you do all the work. Then you find yourself in a relationship with pansy of a guy who can't make decisions, who doesn't initiate actions, ( sometimes even who relies on your financially) and who is lazy when it comes to romance. What woman wants that? Nature was designed so that women seduce and entice men and men take the initiative to be the aggressors and quite frankly it works best like that. But that's what women are like all the time.
Author FoxMulder Posted May 21, 2010 Author Posted May 21, 2010 Works out best for women you mean. As a guy I hate always having to be the initiater, when it comes to dates, sex, anything if I always have to be the one to contact you it feels like you don't give a crap about me and that you just put up with me which may not be the truth at all but thats the message it gives out. But I can't do crud to fix that so I just shut up and initiate. Yep, I feel the same as you do.
Els Posted May 21, 2010 Posted May 21, 2010 Probably just looking at the wrong women. The bf did pursue me initially but I have probably initiated sex about 50% of our time together.
Twenty-ten Posted May 21, 2010 Posted May 21, 2010 Initially yes it works out nicely for us to be pursued, but then it evens out because we become emotionally attached after sex (unlike men who can have sex without emotions and not feel like they are giving anything) we women become the pursuers after sex. So that is when the man sits back and lets the woman do more of the work. So it evens out the playing field. Oh I see you guys wanted us to do all the work right from the get go so that you could just sit back and be kings throughout the courting stages and throughout the relationship....I see......!
Rorschach Posted May 21, 2010 Posted May 21, 2010 Probably just looking at the wrong women. The bf did pursue me initially but I have probably initiated sex about 50% of our time together. I'm happy with this, I can accept that its just a mans lot in life to be the initiater when it comes to first contact, but this says that after the initial contact it becomes a shared responsibility.
St. Nick Posted May 21, 2010 Posted May 21, 2010 Why don't women ever initiate anything? It's always the man who has to initiate everything and do all the work... Not just in the beggining but all the time. A woman would never ask a guy out, a woman would never initiate contact, a woman would never initiate sex and etc etc. Are men simply more intrested in women than women are in men? Didn't you read my thread where I said dating is better for men than it is for women? Being the approacher is a much better position. Men get to meet as many women as they want. Women only meet men who approach them. As a result, the average man is going to meet far more men than the average woman is going to meet men. Why is that such a bad thing to you, dude?
Author FoxMulder Posted May 21, 2010 Author Posted May 21, 2010 Didn't you read my thread where I said dating is better for men than it is for women? Being the approacher is a much better position. Men get to meet as many women as they want. Women only meet men who approach them. As a result, the average man is going to meet far more men than the average woman is going to meet men. Why is that such a bad thing to you, dude? Yes, that's your oppinion. Men have to do all the work, women only have to sit back and do nothing.
Els Posted May 21, 2010 Posted May 21, 2010 I'm happy with this, I can accept that its just a mans lot in life to be the initiater when it comes to first contact, but this says that after the initial contact it becomes a shared responsibility. It should be. Sadly some men seem to screw their brethren over by pulling away whenever the woman starts initiating calls, dates, etc... because apparently, 'the thrill of the chase is gone'. Give asshats like that a good beating, and you may find that women might just start to believe in pulling equal weight again.
Author FoxMulder Posted May 21, 2010 Author Posted May 21, 2010 Initially yes it works out nicely for us to be pursued, but then it evens out because we become emotionally attached after sex (unlike men who can have sex without emotions and not feel like they are giving anything) we women become the pursuers after sex. So that is when the man sits back and lets the woman do more of the work. So it evens out the playing field. Oh I see you guys wanted us to do all the work right from the get go so that you could just sit back and be kings throughout the courting stages and throughout the relationship....I see......! No, it's you women who think that way.
Twenty-ten Posted May 21, 2010 Posted May 21, 2010 Women only meet men who approach them. As a result, the average man is going to meet far more men than the average woman is going to meet men. Why is that such a bad thing to you, dude? I always knew there was a gay thing going on.
Author FoxMulder Posted May 21, 2010 Author Posted May 21, 2010 I'm happy with this, I can accept that its just a mans lot in life to be the initiater when it comes to first contact, but this says that after the initial contact it becomes a shared responsibility. It doesn't. Men have to initiate every contact, every date, every act of intimacy etc etc ALL THE TIME. Not just in the beggining. It doesn't matter if it's your first week togheter or your first year togheter... as a guy you still have to initiate every single thing and do all the work.
Twenty-ten Posted May 21, 2010 Posted May 21, 2010 No, it's you women who think that way. How so? I just explained to you that once we have sex we become the ones to do the work for a while so how does that translate into us wanting to reap all the benefits. We know we will be doing work when we get intimate and we become more emotionally attached therefore the guy should do some of the work at first. That is fair.
OpenGL Posted May 21, 2010 Posted May 21, 2010 Why don't women ever initiate anything? It's always the man who has to initiate everything and do all the work... Not just in the beggining but all the time. A woman would never ask a guy out, a woman would never initiate contact, a woman would never initiate sex and etc etc. Are men simply more intrested in women than women are in men? Why would they? In the state of our society, women can basically get anything they want. Anything. And it shows up at their doorstep. I would say that ANY woman under 150lbs and > 5'0 can, within hours, get in a relationship with a man making 120k/year or 8/10 in looks. To get both, it would probably take a week of weeding out suitors.
Twenty-ten Posted May 21, 2010 Posted May 21, 2010 It doesn't. Men have to initiate every contact, every date, every act of intimacy etc etc ALL THE TIME. Not just in the beggining. It doesn't matter if it's your first week togheter or your first year togheter... as a guy you still have to initiate every single thing and do all the work. Have you been in a relationships before? That is not my experience, sorry.
jakinbandw Posted May 21, 2010 Posted May 21, 2010 I've been dating my girlfriend for a week, today she basically asked me out on a date. At first I was happy, but when she told me what to expect... That we would likely get intimate, I realized that I was much happier when I was controlling how fast our relationship was going. Still I guess dating is give and take. If things get too out of control I'll say something, but otherwise I'll let her take the lead. Don't complain about a girl not taking the lead. When you are initiating things, you are sure about what you are getting. When they start initiating things it may go in a direction you are not ready for!
OpenGL Posted May 21, 2010 Posted May 21, 2010 At first I was happy, but when she told me what to expect... That we would likely get intimate, I realized that I was much happier when I was controlling how fast our relationship was going. Are you gay?
Confusedalways Posted May 21, 2010 Posted May 21, 2010 This post comes at a funny time- I was just trying to figure out how to approach this guy I think is cute.
jakinbandw Posted May 21, 2010 Posted May 21, 2010 No!!! I just come from a very traditional upbringing. I only decided to start looking for a girlfriend a few months ago. I am 22 and I haven't dated before. I mean, she is hot, but... I think about doing something with her and I want to hide in a corner blushing.
Author FoxMulder Posted May 21, 2010 Author Posted May 21, 2010 Initially yes it works out nicely for us to be pursued, but then it evens out because we become emotionally attached after sex (unlike men who can have sex without emotions and not feel like they are giving anything) we women become the pursuers after sex. So that is when the man sits back and lets the woman do more of the work. So it evens out the playing field. Oh I see you guys wanted us to do all the work right from the get go so that you could just sit back and be kings throughout the courting stages and throughout the relationship....I see......! Women never become emotionally attached to guys. Most women couldn't care less if their boyfriend/husband just left.
St. Nick Posted May 21, 2010 Posted May 21, 2010 I always knew there was a gay thing going on. LOL. I meant the average man is going to meet more women than the average woman is going to meet men. You knew what I meant. Quit bs-ing.
OpenGL Posted May 21, 2010 Posted May 21, 2010 LOL. I meant the average man is going to meet more women than the average woman is going to meet men. You knew what I meant. Quit bs-ing. Women have more sexual partners than men. Thats what counts.
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