Ann_Igma Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 I came across this article today and just thought I'd share. This woman has so much nerve, I couldn't believe it: http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/crime/article/810236--toronto-woman-sues-rogers-for-exposing-her-affair?bn=1 I seriously hope her lawyer isn't better than the cellphone company's lawyer. If she wins that case, I think justice (of the poetic variety, at the very least) will be taking a beating that day.
aerogurl87 Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 If she hadn't been cheating she wouldn't have had this problem, I swear people these days just make me shake my head.
Woggle Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 The sad thing is I bet she will have an army of women supporting her and claiming she is the victim.
bentnotbroken Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 The sad thing is I bet she will have an army of women supporting her and claiming she is the victim. Woggle...stop it! She may very well have an army...an army of cheaters and they aren't gender specific.
Woggle Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 Woggle...stop it! She may very well have an army...an army of cheaters and they aren't gender specific. You might not but I fully expect her to become the feminist's new favorite victim to rally behind and for most women to support her.
crazycatlady Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 Right or wrong what she was doing, the company did screw up. They had no business uniting those bills like they did. Her phone, her bill, her service should never have been changed over to his. I know when we changed my H's cell phone to my bill, we had to jump through several hoops to get it done. Now of course since he's on my bill I can do what ever I want to his phone, but he can't touch mine, and some things with his he can't do - like remove it from my bill. This isn't about her cheating at all. This is a breech of contract, plain and simple. And while we might not like what she did, I do think she did have a reasonable expectation that her phone contract would remain her phone contract. Because I handle all bills and all financial matters we have to make sure that like for his car loan etc I'm on there as being someone they can talk to about it. I might grumble that its a pain in the butt getting everything taken care of like that, but its makes me very comfortable dealing with the companies we deal with that do require that. Those who have made it easy, we stop doing business with. It should be hard. CCL
whichwayisup Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 Quote from the paper: “I lost everything,” she says. “I want others to know what a big corporation has done. I trusted Rogers with my personal information. We had a contract — and agreement that put my life right in their hands.” I'm sure her husband was thinking while reading this article, "WE got married, said vows, had a contract - and agreement to put my life in HER hands." This woman has suffered, but it isn't the phone company's fault. Though, I'm sure after this incident they will be changes made inside the company, privacy changes etc so this doesn't happen again, especially if she wins the case against them.
whichwayisup Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 You might not but I fully expect her to become the feminist's new favorite victim to rally behind and for most women to support her. Wogs, you're projecting (again). Don't...Assume..
carhill Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 Right or wrong what she was doing, the company did screw up. On principle, I agree, but legally 'screwed up' has a different burden. I use powers of attorney and a real attorney enough to know. Stbx and I had a similar dynamic to yours prior to filing for divorce. I was 'manager' and she was on the account, even though different surname. I kept her on and paid the contract after we split up since it still had to run, but she got herself into something with some guy and had to change her phone number so had me shut off her number and she went to a different carrier. The cell records were an interesting read. I felt sorry for her. Maybe I wasn't such a psycho after all
whichwayisup Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 This woman has suffered, but it isn't the phone company's fault. She brought it on herself and probably was hoping never to be caught/found out about. Those poor kids..
whichwayisup Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 Right or wrong what she was doing, the company did screw up. He bundled the phone with the internet and cable tv, to get a discount, the other stuff was in his name, so it was probably automatic that the phone name change went to him, to keep it as one bill. It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out though.
crazycatlady Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 He was never on the bill, it should never have reverted to him when he added all the services. They were not related, different last names and everything. SSN weren't the same. Only the address which was not a good enough reason take unrelated bills and combine them. Carhill - you and she were already on the account, but how would it have been if they just assumed without your permission simply because you lived in the same address? CCL
carhill Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 Carhill - you and she were already on the account, but how would it have been if they just assumed without your permission simply because you lived in the same address? When someone asks me a question like that, my answer is: I don't know and I'll have to ask my lawyer. Every jurisdiction is different. The article is from Canada and I have no clue about their laws. Since a lawyer took it on, presumably on contingency, there must be some merit in the claim, legally. I doubt she has the deep pockets to take on a phone company on her own nickel.
whichwayisup Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 I wonder why, 3 years after this happened, NOW she's going after Rogers.
Dexter Morgan Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 (edited) I came across this article today and just thought I'd share. This woman has so much nerve, I couldn't believe it: http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/crime/article/810236--toronto-woman-sues-rogers-for-exposing-her-affair?bn=1 I seriously hope her lawyer isn't better than the cellphone company's lawyer. If she wins that case, I think justice (of the poetic variety, at the very least) will be taking a beating that day. I don't think she has a leg to stand on. They are married and my take is he has right to access. It was fraudulent, in my opinion, to send a bill in her maiden name when that isn't her name any longer. I could see if a representative from Rogers called her husband and said, "sir, I think there is something you need to know about your so-called wife" (although that would be highly delicious) And she says they "confirmed the affair"....I don't think so. All they can do is explain the charges and the phone numbers. And again, if he is legally entitled to information on the bills, I hope a judge tells her to get a life and get out of his court with her stupid s##t. but her husband needs to go for half of any settlement if she gets awarded anything. some stupid ass jury is out there that would give her a verdict. Edited May 18, 2010 by Dexter Morgan
michelangelo Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 Quote from the paper: “I lost everything,” she says. “I want others to know what a big corporation has done. I trusted Rogers with my personal information. We had a contract — and agreement that put my life right in their hands.” I'm sure her husband was thinking while reading this article, "WE got married, said vows, had a contract - and agreement to put my life in HER hands." This woman has suffered, but it isn't the phone company's fault. Though, I'm sure after this incident they will be changes made inside the company, privacy changes etc so this doesn't happen again, especially if she wins the case against them. Hmmm, enforcing the provisions of the contract?? Does she really want to go down that road?
Darth Vader Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 Right or wrong what she was doing, the company did screw up. They had no business uniting those bills like they did. Her phone, her bill, her service should never have been changed over to his. I know when we changed my H's cell phone to my bill, we had to jump through several hoops to get it done. Now of course since he's on my bill I can do what ever I want to his phone, but he can't touch mine, and some things with his he can't do - like remove it from my bill. This isn't about her cheating at all. This is a breech of contract, plain and simple. And while we might not like what she did, I do think she did have a reasonable expectation that her phone contract would remain her phone contract. Because I handle all bills and all financial matters we have to make sure that like for his car loan etc I'm on there as being someone they can talk to about it. I might grumble that its a pain in the butt getting everything taken care of like that, but its makes me very comfortable dealing with the companies we deal with that do require that. Those who have made it easy, we stop doing business with. It should be hard. CCL No, she didn't pay her bill! Therefore they bundled the services! They were in the RIGHT! As far as OM calling to harrass them, Hubby should contact that SOB's wife, and let her know what her bastard of a husband has been doing behind her back! Hubby needs to leave her for good!
crazycatlady Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 No, she didn't pay her bill! Therefore they bundled the services! They were in the RIGHT! As far as OM calling to harrass them, Hubby should contact that SOB's wife, and let her know what her bastard of a husband has been doing behind her back! Hubby needs to leave her for good! I didn't read where she didn't pay her bill, and even then, its her bill, not her H's bill, and having different last names why bundle? How did they know it wasn't a renter in the house? Or roomies? Or any number of different things. I shared a house once with 5 different women (and will never do it again lol). We recently had a friend renting our basement for 6 months (once again, will never do that again) but his bills were his bills not ours. Because only MY name is on all the bills - because I handle the bills and its easier to make sure they will talk to me and not want to deal with him as well - it would be to an outsider the same thing - man and woman's name on two different bills to the same address, why not bundle them. In fact, he still hasn't moved one of his bills to his new address, and its a service we have as well. Guess we should be really glad that the company we both have service with didn't decide to do the same thing.
NoIDidn't Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 This woman doesn't have a legal leg to stand on. It was a clerical error. The fact that she was doing something that would have endangered her marriage was on her, not on the phone company. Her case is going to fall apart the minute they ask if it was the circumstances that she was in that caused her to sue for damages. If it was a child in her home doing something dangerous, or doing school hours and they could see it on the phone bill - I doubt she would be suing. I haven't read the article yet, but it seems that d-day was a turn-off for her boyfriend. Sounds like she's only suing because she lost her fallback AND her first option.
whichwayisup Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 She can't prove that the company caused the damages. And she says they "confirmed the affair".... Her husband noticed the number. She happened to be married to guy who actually checks the bill, long distance charges etc.. Her husband was the one who called the OM and confronted him, so the OM confirmed the affair, NOT Rogers. Again, 3 years later and this now is just coming to light?
crazycatlady Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 They knew she wasn't a renter because they had established their marital status with the company in the form of other joint accounts with the company. In all reality, it was probably some eager customer service rep who probably got bonus points for selling bundles. Was probably just seeing they were married via their account history, and thought they were being helpful. No good deed goes unpunished I guess. She still doesn't have a leg to stand on, IMO. She can't prove that the company caused the damages. They didn't make her have the affair, nor did they disclose the affair. To me, this is no different than the post office misdelivering a statement and an affair being disclosed that way. Should she sue the post office too for mailing the cell bill statement? If this is the case, definately is wrong wrong wrong. Most people have a reason they don't share accounts on something. right or wrong what she did, the company IS AT FAULT. It violated her privacy and breached their contract.
jwi71 Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 OK, that's freaking hilarious. In 2007, Gabriella Nagy had a cellphone account with Rogers which sent the monthly bill to her home address in her maiden name. Her husband was the account holder for the family's cable TV service at the same address. Around June 4, 2007, he called Rogers to add internet and home phone I quoted the article and bolded the part I keyed on. He calls Roger's and adds the existing services to his cellphone bill - I guess arbitrarily. Now, Roger's may have have questioned who he was and why - after all, the names don't match on her cell phone. He simply tells the truth. She is my wife, this is our shared address and we pay our bills from the same bank account. From Rogers perspective...why not? After all, I imagine people stealing other people's bills to pay is rather rare. I wish someone would steal my bills and pay them. My take. I hope it goes to trial. I would LOVE to read those transcripts.
crazycatlady Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 OK, that's freaking hilarious. I quoted the article and bolded the part I keyed on. He calls Roger's and adds the existing services to his cellphone bill - I guess arbitrarily. Now, Roger's may have have questioned who he was and why - after all, the names don't match on her cell phone. He simply tells the truth. She is my wife, this is our shared address and we pay our bills from the same bank account. From Rogers perspective...why not? After all, I imagine people stealing other people's bills to pay is rather rare. I wish someone would steal my bills and pay them. My take. I hope it goes to trial. I would LOVE to read those transcripts. Actually it says nothing about adding it to the cellphone bill. Even in your quote it doesn't say that. It says he added to HIS exisiting account for the cable TV service internet and home phone. Rogers on their own added HER private cellphone account and contract onto HIS account. Though I somehow missed the end where it says Rogers also gave the jilted lover her voicemail password. The company has issues, sever issues and deserves being sued if this is the case.
crazycatlady Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 To get my husband's cell phone added to my account - and we have the same name, same address same everything - I had to call our cell company, he had to call the cell company on his own phone, we both had to verify information. It took like 30 minutes to get it handled and was a bit of a hassle, if it hadn't been cheaper to consolidate them, I wouldn't have bothered because it was such a huge hassle. Why was it such a PITA? Because it is dealing with contracts and privacy. CCL
whichwayisup Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 In all reality, it was probably some eager customer service rep who probably got bonus points for selling bundles. Probably, but it also saves a Rogers customer alot of money by bundling home phone, cell, internet and cable into ONE. Many people I know do this and Rogers has a family plan for cell users (kids, both parents) that's included as well.
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