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brainygirl Established Member

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I hate to agree with the other guys but many women like to compete with other women so a man that sleeps around will be more desirable. I know that when I am in a relationship or dating around I get much more play then when I am alone and doing my thing. I don't know if it is promiscuity but women like what other women want or what other women have. If a man is all about respecting women or not using them as objects women tend to see him as weak and being is the worst trait a man can have in a woman's eyes.

 

That makes no sense to me because I am not at all attracted to guys who are in relationships. Even celebrities I crush on, as soon as I find out the guy is married or has a girlfriend, its like switch gets flipped, no more attraction.

 

I think women who go after men who are already paired have problems. They either don't want a relationship or they are seriously messed up.

deebeechrisyo Established Member

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Unfortunately, I think the majority women in this country have emotional problems then.

ADF Established Member

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You are hardly the only man who hasn't had a one-night stand. Frankly, they tend to be oerrated.

marsle85 Established Member

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I hate to agree with the other guys but many women like to compete with other women so a man that sleeps around will be more desirable. I know that when I am in a relationship or dating around I get much more play then when I am alone and doing my thing. I don't know if it is promiscuity but women like what other women want or what other women have. If a man is all about respecting women or not using them as objects women tend to see him as weak and being is the worst trait a man can have in a woman's eyes.

 

 

Brainygirl, Woggle has never hesitated to agree with men. If you really are a smart girl, you won't bother debating with him.

Woggle Established Member

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Brainygirl, Woggle has never hesitated to agree with men. If you really are a smart girl, you won't bother debating with him.

 

Us men know what works with us and what doesn't. What women tell us and what men experience tend not to go hand in hand.

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Though Wog's and I don't agree on everything, my hat's off to him for starting up therapy and my experiences regarding watching what women *do* rather than what they *say* appear to align with his pretty well.

brainygirl Established Member

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Us men know what works with us and what doesn't. What women tell us and what men experience tend not to go hand in hand.

 

Well, it could be that people are not a homogeneous group, but fall along a continuum of behavior. You tend to notice what speaks to you and interact with what meets your needs and expectations.

 

In my case, I don't mess around with or date men who are attached. I can't speak for other women.

Woggle Established Member

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I don't believe all women think like this but many women do. I fully believe a woman like Twenty Ten when she says she values a man that respects women but many times women like her are not aware of how many others think.

 

I don't mean this as an insult but they don't have the need for drama that other women have nor are they on the receiving end of their games so they are completely removed from the situation. They can't relate to what men such as myself and others are talking about.

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I don't believe all women think like this but many women do. I fully believe a woman like Twenty Ten when she says she values a man that respects women but many times women like her are not aware of how many others think.

 

I don't mean this as an insult but they don't have the need for drama that other women have nor are they on the receiving end of their games so they are completely removed from the situation. They can't relate to what men such as myself and others are talking about.

 

 

Of course there are many women who are walking contradictions, and I know we can be brutal at saying one thing and actually meaning another. But for the purpose of this topic I highly believe that most women regardless on what their stance is don't see a promiscuous man as "better or more desirable" because of that.

 

For me personally, as I explained earlier, I just assume most guys I will meet are promiscuous or at least more promiscuous than I will ever be because it is socially acceptable and expected for men to sleep around. But when a guy admits to me that he is actually not it does add a favourable light to how I see him more so than if he were to tell me he had been a little trampolino before we met. That wouldn't be special that would just be the norm (I assume) I just assume that men will have their fair share of meaningless conquests so it's not like I would not date him because of that, I would just see it as something really special if he said he had been rather selective in his adult life.

 

Woggle is that correct what Carhill said, that you are in therapy these days? That's amazing!! Good for you, so happy and excited for you. ;)

brainygirl Established Member

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I don't believe all women think like this but many women do. I fully believe a woman like Twenty Ten when she says she values a man that respects women but many times women like her are not aware of how many others think.

 

I don't mean this as an insult but they don't have the need for drama that other women have nor are they on the receiving end of their games so they are completely removed from the situation. They can't relate to what men such as myself and others are talking about.

 

Ahh, so you have had a bed experience and then generalize that to an entire segment of the population.

 

You seem to claim that women prefer men with sexual experience over men who are inexperienced. You claim that women will hit on and go after men who are paired up versus men who are single.

 

I really don't see how you can justify this unless you are blaming the break up of a relationship in "she just wouldn't stop hitting on me because I am so obviously a great boyfriend so I finally gave in and slept with her"

 

WE are all responsible for our own actions. If you find that unstable women are attracted to you, it is because of something you are putting out there.

marsle85 Established Member

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I don't believe all women think like this but many women do. I fully believe a woman like Twenty Ten when she says she values a man that respects women but many times women like her are not aware of how many others think.

 

Woggle, the problem I have with your commentary is that according to EVERY single one of your posts: "many" and "most" women do WHATEVER is being discussed. I've never ONCE read any of your threads where you believed men and women behaved equally, or ever cut a woman any slack.

 

I think your views are stagnant and you comfort yourself by saying, "Well I didn't say ALL..." even though when you compile your opinions about women that's what you're saying. I don't think you're malicious, and I think you respond very maturely to a lot of critisicm you receive (including my own). I give you credit for it, as you've maintained an even temper.

 

But dude, you'd be so much happier if you started to look for equivilence among men and women- because really, we are so much more alike than we are different...and across the board, the stats (regarding nearly EVERYTHING) are the same.

 

Undoubtedly, you have had experiences that have led you to these conclusions- but the world goes on around you, and this is just not the case for everyone. I don't think you're a stupid guy, but you truly are limiting your own growth and happiness by holding the "most women" card tight to your chest.

Woggle Established Member

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I am in therapy because I want to deal with my issues but not at the cost of becoming some doormat who apologizes for being born with a penis. Those days are gone.

 

Once a man has built up a reputation as a player he can then reject and women will find that attractive but he has to build up that rep first. My point is that us men are not making this stuff up. What other men say about women assuming you are gay or weak if you have no wish to use them as a sex toy is true as well. Men are considered pigs if we do sleep around but weak betas if we don't so we are pretty damned if we do and damned if we don't.

brainygirl Established Member

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I am in therapy because I want to deal with my issues but not at the cost of becoming some doormat who apologizes for being born with a penis. Those days are gone.

 

Once a man has built up a reputation as a player he can then reject and women will find that attractive but he has to build up that rep first. My point is that us men are not making this stuff up. What other men say about women assuming you are gay or weak if you have no wish to use them as a sex toy is true as well. Men are considered pigs if we do sleep around but weak betas if we don't so we are pretty damned if we do and damned if we don't.

 

I think its the group of women you are looking at then. I am open about the fact that I enjoy sex. I am also open about the fact that I've faced my share of rejection. I really don't doubt that you've come across this attitude, but it isn't universal.

 

If a guy isn't interested in me for what ever reason, I assume its just as well and move in. Is it possible that another woman would insult the guy to insulate her own ego? Possibly, but if so, she isn't anyone you want or need to mess around with.

 

And for the record, I avoid the dudes with "reputations". I look for someone who's fun for me to hang out with.

marsle85 Established Member

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Amen. Damned if we do, damned if we don't just about covers it.

 

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

What else do you need to hear? I'm a sexy, confident and smart girl- going to Grad school... my parents are still married and I grew up with two older brothers. I'm stable and open to LTR and a great sex life.

 

AND I DON'T CARE HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU'VE SLEPT WITH... in nearly both directions. Provided he hasn't slept with a crazy amount, I really don't care. If he can still pursue me and charm me with intellectual batter and i'm into his bod- what does it matter? Listen, if you're a catch, you're a catch. That kind of stuff seems like it matters, but in the big picture... doesn't change anything.

marsle85 Established Member

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LOL

 

You have a sense of humor at least.

 

 

This is true. Studies don't lie.

carhill Established Member

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If you find that unstable women are attracted to you, it is because of something you are putting out there.

 

IMO, there's something to that, and it transcends relationship status. Perhaps, in Wog's case (and mine as well), remnants of the past 'nice' guy cause signals to go out that would otherwise not exist and this attracts instability. Since, by all revelations, Wog's appears to have married a stable, loving woman, he must be sending out positive signals which healthy women pick up on. Me, OTOH, meh. I have no problem getting ONS potentials with married women but the people-picker is working better now so no unhealthy and inappropriate attachments are resulting. It's just a matter of numbers now (meeting enough ladies to find a healthy, compatible, and, of course *single* one).

brainygirl Established Member

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IMO, there's something to that, and it transcends relationship status. Perhaps, in Wog's case (and mine as well), remnants of the past 'nice' guy cause signals to go out that would otherwise not exist and this attracts instability. Since, by all revelations, Wog's appears to have married a stable, loving woman, he must be sending out positive signals which healthy women pick up on. Me, OTOH, meh. I have no problem getting ONS potentials with married women but the people-picker is working better now so no unhealthy and inappropriate attachments are resulting. It's just a matter of numbers now (meeting enough ladies to find a healthy, compatible, and, of course *single* one).

 

ITs all a numbers game, and I'm sorry but you have to kiss a few toads to find a prince, or princess as the case may be. Getting bitter about all the toads in unhelpful. Bad mouthing the toads is just plain mean.

marsle85 Established Member

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Women.

 

I've been with over 20 and sex is easy to come by. Women come to me. Women want my experience. Proof positive is my experiences.

 

A few men that I know have had no partners. They have careers and hobbies but few women want to be a training ground so they are f*cked. They ignore my advice to start with a promiscuous woman so I don't feel for them. At all.

 

I don't understand the significance.

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It's probably not so much the experience as it is the confidence around women that probably radiate with you. You are probably more confident and aggressive around women then most guys who don't get a lot, which women love.

 

I'm sure if you said "hey lady, I've had sex with a lot of girls, want to go back to my pad?", they would probably laugh. Although that takes balls to say so who knows it could work :)

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IMO, there's something to that, and it transcends relationship status. Perhaps, in Wog's case (and mine as well), remnants of the past 'nice' guy cause signals to go out that would otherwise not exist and this attracts instability. Since, by all revelations, Wog's appears to have married a stable, loving woman, he must be sending out positive signals which healthy women pick up on. Me, OTOH, meh. I have no problem getting ONS potentials with married women but the people-picker is working better now so no unhealthy and inappropriate attachments are resulting. It's just a matter of numbers now (meeting enough ladies to find a healthy, compatible, and, of course *single* one).

 

Wogs married a stable, loving woman. So. How does he support her and show his love, I wonder...

Woggle Established Member

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I managed to attract a stable and healthy woman but I have also attracted my share of women with serious issues as well. I made the mistake in my first marriage of trying to rescue a troubled woman and I damn sure won't make it again. Having a wedding ring only makes them more determined but I reject them every time.

 

One of the reasons I married is that she is attracted to my stable and nice guy side. She likes the part of me that does like to treat a woman well and she has had a few men who gave her drama that she dumped on the spot when they were caught.

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One of the reasons I married is that she is attracted to my stable and nice guy side. She likes the part of me that does like to treat a woman well and she has had a few men who gave her drama that she dumped on the spot when they were caught.

 

Do you allow your wife to view your posts here?

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Those are true for sure, but the simple explanation for wanting someone who's taken is wanting what you can't have. I know I sure do, I make many boyfriends, and now a husband, VERY angry at me because their partners are more interested in talking to, or seeing me than them.

 

Plus it's just more fun, and risky to pursue someone who's taken.

brainygirl Established Member

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Experience matters.

 

I'm more subtle than that. The bottom line is I get lots of sex.[/QUOTe

 

I think what you may not be considering is that it isn't the fact that you are experienced that attracts the girls, its that you have enough experience to know how to close the deal that gets you the girls.

 

See the difference?

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Woggle, you're entitled to your views - but they're undoubtedly radical, and hardly stable. I guess they're consistent in their extremity.

 

I don't know WHAT kind of girl you attracted.

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