Ross PK Posted May 13, 2010 Posted May 13, 2010 I guess because a lot of women, or maybe even most are gold diggers. You always hear how women say it's so important for their man to have money, or for a man to have money for them to be attracted to them.
sagetalk Posted May 13, 2010 Posted May 13, 2010 To attract the majority of women (not all thank goodness) you must have at least some high values in the following: 1. Money 2. Looks 3. entrainment value (ability to generate fun) 4. social value (friends, popularity) Of those 4, money helps all of them. So, yeah, rich guys dating hot girl makes perfect sense.
NSGurl Posted May 13, 2010 Posted May 13, 2010 Before we get too much further along, let me interject that a kind heart, integrity and an ability to communicate rank up there too. I recently witnessed the wealthy, dirty old man/plastic, younger gold digger in action. Ick. I don't know how they do it.
Green Posted May 13, 2010 Posted May 13, 2010 Heres the thing you take an average guy and make him rich he will be more attractive to women if you take an average guy and make him some low paid retail work or dish washer. Women like a man who dresses nice, has a nice place, nice teeth, and yes drives a nice car. All indicators of a mans wealth. I actualy saw a test on a tv show called the Science of Sex (i think was the name) and they showed pictures of the same man with different incomes... one time they showed the man and said he was a Doctor making 300k anualy the next few times they showed the same guy working retail making 25k anualy... in the show women gave him 10's when he was rich and 4 and 3's when he didn't make much. So wealth is one element of attraction the reason probably being rich guys can take care of babies
sagetalk Posted May 13, 2010 Posted May 13, 2010 3. entrainment value (ability to generate fun) That should be entertainment value.
Engadget Posted May 13, 2010 Posted May 13, 2010 That's not true. I know a guy who happily shags what he considers to be the ugliest women on the planet. Mind you, he does put a paper bag over their heads.... And one morning, he woke up with a said girl in question, with her head resting on his arm. He was about to bite his own arm off rather than wake her, when thankfully, she rolled over.... (just to help people out here, that was supposed to be a joke.....) I think that was a skit on a show actually, guy saws through his own arm to escape some whale he slept with rather than wake her, haha.
alphamale Posted May 13, 2010 Posted May 13, 2010 most rich dudes are pretty confident due to their money
Lizzie60 Posted May 14, 2010 Posted May 14, 2010 I think that, in general, men who have more money are smarter, they have better jobs, therefore make more money... and since money or success gives more confidence, and confidence is probably the #1 turn-on ... this is why rich men get more chicks..
Engadget Posted May 14, 2010 Posted May 14, 2010 I think that, in general, men who have more money are smarter, they have better jobs, therefore make more money... and since money or success gives more confidence, and confidence is probably the #1 turn-on ... this is why rich men get more chicks.. You don't need to be smart to be rich. Paris Hilton anyone? You can get lucky, or simply know the right people. George W Bush was fairly wealthy, and it had nothing to do with intelligence.
Pink Cupcakes Posted May 14, 2010 Posted May 14, 2010 Work ethic and ambition are very attractive traits.
TheBigQuestion Posted May 14, 2010 Posted May 14, 2010 You don't need to be smart to be rich. Paris Hilton anyone? You can get lucky, or simply know the right people. George W Bush was fairly wealthy, and it had nothing to do with intelligence. The vast majority of wealthy people worked their way up there. You can find exceptions to anything but this simple fact does not change.
Engadget Posted May 14, 2010 Posted May 14, 2010 The vast majority of wealthy people worked their way up there. You can find exceptions to anything but this simple fact does not change. I didn't say they didn't Senor Straw Man. I'm saying you don't need to be intelligent to be rich.
TheBigQuestion Posted May 14, 2010 Posted May 14, 2010 I didn't say they didn't Senor Straw Man. I'm saying you don't need to be intelligent to be rich. Well in that case your post was absolutely pointless. Why point out that there are exceptions to this rule when everyone reading this thread is most likely already quite aware of it? The previous posters were making the point that, in general, wealth is a by-product of things like hard work, sacrifice, self-actualization, etc.
Chrome Barracuda Posted May 14, 2010 Posted May 14, 2010 Yep people can gain money through inheritance or someone giving it to them or generations captilizing off of something and building it big like the trumps or rockerfellas. Family lineage counts. But didnt noboddy leave my azz anything. lol.
Engadget Posted May 14, 2010 Posted May 14, 2010 Well in that case your post was absolutely pointless. Why point out that there are exceptions to this rule when everyone reading this thread is most likely already quite aware of it? The previous posters were making the point that, in general, wealth is a by-product of things like hard work, sacrifice, self-actualization, etc. Did you not see the original post I commented on? Please read before commenting. Your replies have been worthless then, run along now.
TheBigQuestion Posted May 14, 2010 Posted May 14, 2010 (edited) Did you not see the original post I commented on? Please read before commenting. Your replies have been worthless then, run along now. I did read it. Lizzie used the phrase "in general," which is not a phrase you use when dealing with absolutes. That means she was acutely aware that there are exceptions to the rule. You acted as if she wasn't aware of this when her post clearly states it to be so. Therefore, you're wrong to say that I used a strawman, as that implies that I misrepresented or negatively caricatured your statements. Edited May 14, 2010 by TheBigQuestion
Green Posted May 14, 2010 Posted May 14, 2010 Yep people can gain money through inheritance or someone giving it to them or generations captilizing off of something and building it big like the trumps or rockerfellas. Family lineage counts. But didnt noboddy leave my azz anything. lol. THATS YOU GET FOR BEING BORN INTO A FAMILY THAT ISN'T RICH. Nah but having a nice car, nice clothes, a sweet place and the ability to treat a girl to the world doesn't gaurantee you will get women... just really helps... I'm sure there are some rich guys who still suck with women. Being rich is like being over 6 foot... It helps, but doesn't mean you will get a gf/wife... but you probably will
Mr White Posted May 14, 2010 Posted May 14, 2010 (edited) The vast majority of wealthy people worked their way up there. You can find exceptions to anything but this simple fact does not change. True for many in the upper middle class, not true for many of the richest of the richest. (I'm sure the Kennedy's the Bushes etc. "work hard", but old money is old money. Would Dubaya ever become anything more than a mid-level Frito Lay manager if it wasn't for his family fortune? I didn't think so.) Edited May 14, 2010 by Mr White
TheBigQuestion Posted May 14, 2010 Posted May 14, 2010 True for many in the upper middle class, not true for many of the richest of the richest. (I'm sure the Kennedy's the Bushes etc. "work hard", but old money is old money. Would Dubaya ever become anything more than a mid-level Frito Lay manager if it wasn't for his family fortune? I didn't think so.) I agree, but how many people on LS interact on a daily basis with guys that are billionaires, or even guys with 9-figure net worths for that matter? I'm willing to bet that when most people here (especially the "woe-is-me" crowd that another thread talks about) mention "rich guys," they're talking guys with, at best, higher 6-figure salaries.
SomewhatExperienced Posted May 14, 2010 Posted May 14, 2010 I have to give women credit on this one. I don't know if I could happily be in a relationship with an unattractive but rich woman. Makes you wonder if these girls cheat or if they actually trick themselves into being content. I often meet friend at gym where they work out so we can go eat on Friday nights. There's a lot of fairly affluent, older, sucessful men who park their Porsches in the lot before working out. I've notice while waiting a few of these guys have smokin' hot 20 something year old girlfriends while the men themselves are old and often overweight. I'm SURE these girls are cheating on them. The girls know that they're nothing more than a status symbol for the old guys and the old guys know the girls are only with them for the money. The chicks are certainly gonna have their fun somewhere else.
AngryTroll Posted May 14, 2010 Posted May 14, 2010 I have to give women credit on this one. I don't know if I could happily be in a relationship with an unattractive but rich woman. Makes you wonder if these girls cheat or if they actually trick themselves into being content. Agreed This is a dumb question but I'll answer it anyway. Some women love money. Point blank.
Els Posted May 14, 2010 Posted May 14, 2010 I have to give women credit on this one. I don't know if I could happily be in a relationship with an unattractive but rich woman. Makes you wonder if these girls cheat or if they actually trick themselves into being content. Maybe some people aren't as interested in physical appearances as you are. Although IMHO money ain't much better as a yardstick for a partner. Still, if there were two guys who were totally and equally compatible with me in terms of personality and intelligence, and one was hot but with an average income and the other with an average appearance but really rich, I'd take the rich one. I'd say money has a lot more uses than eye candy does. Neither of the above would be considered if they were incompatible in terms of personality and intelligence, though. I would then choose the guy who was compatible, but with an average income and average appearance over them.
Woggle Posted May 14, 2010 Posted May 14, 2010 For every successful man there are a number of money grubbing leeches looking to get their hands on his money. I admit it can also work the other way around.
jamal Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 Millionaire gives away a king's ransom to find girl of his dreams By JOANI WALSH Last updated at 11:29 17 January 2007 Comments (57) Add to My Stories Looking for Love: Tom Laing When I was 21, I planned to be married with children by 25. When that didn't happen, I set a new goal of 30. Now I'm 32, still single and can't waste any more time. • Have the Daily Mail online sent to your inbox here I don't want to be running around a football field with a toddler when I'm 50, so it's time to call in a professional. I'm going to pay someone £20,000 to find me a wife. On paper, you'd think I was the perfect eligible bachelor. I run my own photographic, dance and recording studio and have another business that does everything from web design to animation. My great-grandfather started the Laing construction company, I was educated at Gordonstoun - the school Prince Charles attended - and the late Queen Mother used to stay at our family manor house. I own a number of properties and ski, play golf and travel extensively. I'm heavily involved with several charities and have even established a bursary scheme to help youngsters aiming for the 2012 Olympics. I know I've been incredibly lucky. I've had a privileged upbringing, a great life and I've got lots of friends. The only thing missing in my life is a special woman to share it all with. I'm a traditional, old-fashioned sort of bloke, and I've always believed that should be an advantage when you're trying to attract women. I don't spit in the street, I hold doors open for people, I buy flowers, beautiful lingerie - in the right sizes, too - I'm attentive, sensitive, generous and romantic. Sadly, women just don't seem to appreciate those things the way they used to. I've never had a relationship last longer than a year and I honestly don't understand where I'm going wrong. In fact, I've only ever had two serious girlfriends. I waited until I was 25 before sleeping with my first proper girlfriend, Natalie, a nurse, as it didn't feel morally right for me to do it before then. But the relationship soon petered out after it became clear that Natalie wasn't that "into me". Then there was Michelle, who was the opposite - too clingy. She told me she loved me after only two months and I ended it. I regret that now: I really think she could have been The One. Ever since then, a successful relationship has eluded me - although not through lack of trying. For instance, I once wrote a poem for a woman I'd fallen for then had it translated into German, which she spoke fluently, and written out by a calligrapher. She simply ignored my efforts and I had to go to America and walk 1,500 miles of the Appalachian trail to try to get her out of my system - only to discover, on my return, that she was gay. Even so, it knocked my confidence. Another time, I met a really attractive woman who worked at the hotel I was staying in. I forced myself to ask her out but it took six visits to the hotel before I plucked up courage. Finally, one evening I asked her to deliver a bottle of wine to my room - but I still didn't know what to say, even in private. I called her to complain that the wine was corked and when she came back with a replacement I blurted out that I'd lied because I wanted to ask her on a date. She was very sweet, but told me she had a boyfriend. I'd like to say the experience made me stronger, but it was completely mentally and physically draining. I find a lot of women today very unapproachable. They look as though they would be offended just to be asked out. They're confident, seem to know what they want and they?re able to get it in most areas - yet still expect men to do the asking out. Many men have remained fairly simple creatures and trying to dissect this modern female psyche is beyond us. I think men and women today are caught between two generations of progress - and we're both missing the point. So I guess I'm just too scared. I'm not single because I?m fussy - I see women to whom I'm attracted every day. I just don?t have the guts to do anything about it. Because I'm not a "lad" who goes out on the "pull", preferring nights in or nice meals, I don?t get that many opportunities to meet women. I meet lots of people through work but it would be totally unprofessional to hit on a client. I've tried other methods. When I hit 30 I signed up to a few dating agencies and singles organisations. I worked out that I?ve spent around £20,000 in fees and expenses on dates - and still got absolutely nowhere. Over the years I've handed over thousands to matchmaking agencies alone - £5,000 to one in particular - which only resulted in a series of incredibly expensive dates costing £500 a time. I usually have to come down to London for the dates as that's where the more exclusive dating agencies are based - which means paying for a hotel room, dinner at Gordon Ramsay, tickets to the theatre. I'm old-fashioned and believe in paying for the privilege of taking a lady out. And I want to enjoy myself, even if the company isn't perfect. I've had some great nights, just never with anyone who turned out to be "special". There was nothing wrong with my dates - one woman was an attractive, slim, blonde fitness instructor. But they were all unremarkable and I need quirkiness to hook me in, whether it?s physical or in personality - something that makes her stand out from the crowd. I've also been speed dating. Last time I took two of my staff from work with me; six months later one of the guys is still with the woman he met that night while I've rarely gone home with even a phone number. The problem is I never seem to like the people who like me, and vice versa. I've even put an ad in the local paper looking for a "relationship manager". It read: "I'm offering a job position to someone with a great social circle who can go out and arrange dates for me." A Polish guy answered and even though we met a couple of times and came up with a few plans, there just didn?t seem to be anybody he knew who was suitable. I still paid him for his efforts. Most of my friends have settled down, as have two of my brothers - including the youngest, James, who's only 28. I babysit for them but it just leaves me wondering if I'm going to turn into a mad old uncle instead of a loving dad, which is heartbreaking. So when I went down to London for a night out with a friend, she introduced me to a friend of hers, Clare Gillbanks - a professional matchmaker whose title is the Dating Angel. Usually, her work involves setting up events where she brings single people together and does her best to pair them up. They don't usually pay a lump sum like me, but just pay to go to individual events. But I decided that since I've spent so much on dating, I might as well go the whole hog and effectively hire Clare to be my personal matchmaker - for at least a year. I decided to offer her £20,000 if she could find me a wife. (And yes, I had had a bit to drink!) But even in the cold light of day it seemed a good idea, so we came to a serious business agreement which we will both uphold for at least a year. She reckons I'm caught in a timewarp, with very traditional values - and sometimes, expectations - and I'm not sure how to apply them when it comes to modern women. She says I'm confused and thinks I can be too black and white - I either go overboard for someone or I pull back completely, to the point of seeming indifferent. So she's going to teach me about women, what they expect or at least hope for, and what?s acceptable. She tells me there's no need to play games - that it's more important to be polite and thoughtful, but without coming across as needy or, even worse, obsessive. And I'll be able to go to her for specific advice - how to approach women in different situations, when to phone and when to email, when to send flowers. Clare runs a dating service called Meet At Last. She's forthright, direct and has no fear - the exact opposite of me - so she's very good at making introductions and nudging people in the right direction. She's already arranged meetings with two dating coaches who will give me a makeover if they think I need it, look at my body language and go through "practice" dates. If it doesn't work and I haven't met the woman who is going to be my wife by the end of the year, hopefully I'll get a refund! Later this month I've got my first event. It's one of Clare's regular events, but she's emailed everyone on her database to tell them about me, so, hopefully, there'll be plenty of lovely women for me to meet. I've told her that I'd like to find someone younger than me, who can speak a foreign language or who is foreign - I love to travel and wouldn?t mind settling abroad. It would be great if she could ski or is willing to learn. She'll have a brain the size of a planet and be good-looking, making "just enough" effort with her appearance - I always look at the eyebrows for clues: too bushy and I wonder if she cares enough; too plucked and I'd be concerned she's superficial. Bit I don't have a "type" when it comes to hair colour, features or shape - I'd rather there was something interesting about her, like she's a closet Scrabble freak or she dresses up as a Goth on Thursdays. What turns me off in a woman is lethargy or a lack of ambition. I won't get on with anyone who simply wants to "get by" in life because there's so much left to do and so many adventures still to have. For instance, I want to visit the Ice Hotel in Sweden which is made almost entirely from ice, right down to the furniture, but I'm saving it for a magical date. And I want to go on safari, but I'll wait for my honeymoon. All I need now is the right woman to take with me. Despite my own background, all my girlfriends have been nurses and waitresses - and not because I have some Pretty Woman-type fantasy: I'm just attracted to people who are natural and wouldn't be impressed by my family. No one I've dated has known anything about my background until they've come home to meet my parents. I think having money has allowed me to take risks in life and make decisions based on trust. That has sometimes meant I've not always been very savvy, and have had my fingers burned in business. So now, when it comes to love, I'm trying to be a bit more shrewd - although I'm confident I know how to avoid gold-diggers and if I ever doubted a girlfriend's motives, that in itself would be enough of a warning sign for me. But money also allows a person to dabble in their dreams, which is what I intend to do now, to realise my dream of becoming a husband and a father. My ideal partner must want to have children - my new goal is to be married by 40 with three children called Elizabeth, Hector and the youngest to be chosen by my wife. If I don't get the wife, I'll go for the kids. I've decided that if I hit 35 and I'm still single, I'm going to investigate surrogacy. Or I?ll try to adopt. But in the meantime, I'm going to put my trust in my dating angel to find me the love of my life - I just hope she can do it. • For more about Tom, visit http://www.meetatlast. com/meettom or call 0870 766 5245. Would you like to be Tom?s bride? If so, write to Tom?s Bride, Femail, Daily Mail, 2 Derry Street, London, W8 5TT, or email us at [email protected] (mark your message Tom?s Bride). Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-429355/Millionaire-gives-away-kings-ransom-girl-dreams.html#ixzz0pl2X7bgM
Els Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 Easiest Q I've ever seen on this board. It's the same reason as why hot women always have men, duh?
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