Woggle Posted May 8, 2010 Posted May 8, 2010 In every porn thread I see women asking men how they would feel if their daughter was doing porn so let's flip that idea on it's ear. How would you feel if you had a son that you raised to respect women, treat them as equals, not view porn and generally be the good guy that women claim men should be and then he married a woman who chewed him up and spit him out? She cheats on him with no remorse, disrespects him and treats him like garbage. Would you still feel that it was justifiable payback for all the women who were cheated on and mistreated? Would you be able to accept your son being used as a sacrificial lamb on the alter of feminism? I want to know how women would view this.
aerogurl87 Posted May 8, 2010 Posted May 8, 2010 Woggle, I'm not following your logic on what having your child be with an abusive partner has to do with watching porn? Being a pornstar is a job, choosing to stay in an abusive relationship is a lifestyle decision. I think those are two different things.
Rhythmic Posted May 8, 2010 Posted May 8, 2010 Woggle, I'm not following your logic on what having your child be with an abusive partner has to do with watching porn? Being a pornstar is a job, choosing to stay in an abusive relationship is a lifestyle decision. I think those are two different things. There are people in the porn thread trying to argue the opposite that they are not two different things at all. Which is why I guess woggle decided to make this thread.
Author Woggle Posted May 8, 2010 Author Posted May 8, 2010 Woggle, I'm not following your logic on what having your child be with an abusive partner has to do with watching porn? Being a pornstar is a job, choosing to stay in an abusive relationship is a lifestyle decision. I think those are two different things. My point is that on the other threads women rail against porn for degrading women and ask men how we would feel if that were our daughter. That is a fair question but many of these same women imply that men deserve it when we are used and abused and I ask them how they would feel if there son were the target of a misandrist's twisted sense of justice.
aerogurl87 Posted May 8, 2010 Posted May 8, 2010 Ok well umm, yeah I'm still not seeing how the two are related. Women who do porn choose to be sex objects, they know that going in. A man can get into a relationship that seems great from the outset and then his girlfriend/wife/fiance slowly conditions him for abuse. See one is upfront about everything happening and the other (usually) isn't.
quankanne Posted May 8, 2010 Posted May 8, 2010 What if this was your son? I would easily choke the living daylights out of someone who abused one of my babies – and I've got a shxt-potload of 'em, of both sexes, either related or godchildren or friends' kids. You don't treat my kids like that and get away with it.
samsungxoxo Posted May 8, 2010 Posted May 8, 2010 I don't have a child as I have absolutely no interest in ever getting pregnant but would my 8 year-old brother count as an example? I have been confused as the mother many times when people would see us in supermarkets. We're 15 years apart so it makes sense. As to what I would do if some bitch abuses my baby brother or cheated on him..... she'll regret big time she ever messed with him. If my mother for some reason can't put her in her place, then I'll do it myself.
EricaH329 Posted May 8, 2010 Posted May 8, 2010 (edited) I believe that everyone needs to learn their own lessons in life. There is absolutely not one person that will skim through life without heartbreak. Not one. Almost everyone will get cheated on, or treated in a way that they do not deserve at some point in their lives. Does that make it right? Not at all. But that's just a part of life. All we can do is teach our children how to react in those types of situations. We have to be there for them, and teach them that just because other people are @$$holes doesn't mean that they have to become one also. Edited May 8, 2010 by EricaH329
Author Woggle Posted May 8, 2010 Author Posted May 8, 2010 Ok well umm, yeah I'm still not seeing how the two are related. Women who do porn choose to be sex objects, they know that going in. A man can get into a relationship that seems great from the outset and then his girlfriend/wife/fiance slowly conditions him for abuse. See one is upfront about everything happening and the other (usually) isn't. They are a bit different but if some people want to use the what if it were your daughtre argument I want to flip it around and use the what if it were your son argument when it comes to this issue.
quankanne Posted May 8, 2010 Posted May 8, 2010 then your argument would be, "what if it were your son up there showing his meaty bits and riding the pole and looking whorish?" you're trying to equate to unequal statements. But my original answer still holds – if anyone messed with one of my children and showed that kind of serious disrespect, my boot would be in their *ss, if not more. And I'm sorry it happened to you, Woggle. maybe you need to adopt an overprotective Mexican mamacita with a penchant for whacking kneecaps?
sally4sara Posted May 8, 2010 Posted May 8, 2010 In every porn thread I see women asking men how they would feel if their daughter was doing porn so let's flip that idea on it's ear. How would you feel if you had a son that you raised to respect women, treat them as equals, not view porn and generally be the good guy that women claim men should be and then he married a woman who chewed him up and spit him out? She cheats on him with no remorse, disrespects him and treats him like garbage. Would you still feel that it was justifiable payback for all the women who were cheated on and mistreated? Would you be able to accept your son being used as a sacrificial lamb on the alter of feminism? I want to know how women would view this. Woggle, I've never thought of women cheating in this way, why would I suddenly think it was justified if it happened to my son? Call your therapist and have him talk you down, you're stuck in your cycle of negative thoughts again.
Author Woggle Posted May 8, 2010 Author Posted May 8, 2010 Woggle, I've never thought of women cheating in this way, why would I suddenly think it was justified if it happened to my son? Call your therapist and have him talk you down, you're stuck in your cycle of negative thoughts again. I know you don't think this way but many women do yet they are the biggest critics of porn so I want to know how they would feel if their son were the betrayed man.
sally4sara Posted May 8, 2010 Posted May 8, 2010 I know you don't think this way but many women do yet they are the biggest critics of porn so I want to know how they would feel if their son were the betrayed man. Porn is not really linked to what you're talking about. Because they really are not related, I am concerned that you are stuck in your fearful thoughts. Go outside, do something fun, take your wife dancing or something and don't worry about the sour $h!ts in the world. Even if I were so nasty as to think my son should be some restitutional target for women, what would it change about your life today right now?
samsungxoxo Posted May 8, 2010 Posted May 8, 2010 Woggle... either you have been hurt badly which is still no excuse for bringing up negative concepts about the opposite gender or you're simply in need of a therapist. So where are you meeting those drama queens because not all women hate porn? And yes... I think the male body is a work of art.. there goes my fantasy on a co-worker but he's married already. Ugh.....
Author Woggle Posted May 8, 2010 Author Posted May 8, 2010 Porn is not really linked to what you're talking about. Because they really are not related, I am concerned that you are stuck in your fearful thoughts. Go outside, do something fun, take your wife dancing or something and don't worry about the sour $h!ts in the world. Even if I were so nasty as to think my son should be some restitutional target for women, what would it change about your life today right now? It is indirectly related. My take is that these women are railing against men for degrading and mistreating women yet they advocate a mentality about men that contributes more to how men view women than porn ever will. I want to know how they would feel if it were their son. I have have felt like a sacrifcial lamb my entire life and that is why I care so much about this issue.
sally4sara Posted May 8, 2010 Posted May 8, 2010 It is indirectly related. My take is that these women are railing against men for degrading and mistreating women yet they advocate a mentality about men that contributes more to how men view women than porn ever will. I want to know how they would feel if it were their son. I have have felt like a sacrifcial lamb my entire life and that is why I care so much about this issue. Ok, I get that. But answer the question: Even if I were so nasty as to think my son should be some restitutional target for women, what would it change about your life today right now?
Author Woggle Posted May 8, 2010 Author Posted May 8, 2010 Ok, I get that. But answer the question: Even if I were so nasty as to think my son should be some restitutional target for women, what would it change about your life today right now? Because I don't want people to go through the same thing I did. I see a lot of young boys out that look angry at the world and they have that same look that I did when I was a teenager and I know exactly where it comes from. On this board I just ride for my gender. I know all women are not bad and I don't make excuse for men who act wrongly but all you hear here and other places is everything bad that men do and I want to show the other side of that. I try to bring some balance.
sally4sara Posted May 8, 2010 Posted May 8, 2010 Because I don't want people to go through the same thing I did. I see a lot of young boys out that look angry at the world and they have that same look that I did when I was a teenager and I know exactly where it comes from. On this board I just ride for my gender. I know all women are not bad and I don't make excuse for men who act wrongly but all you hear here and other places is everything bad that men do and I want to show the other side of that. I try to bring some balance. You do not "know" why anyone is angry just by the look on their face. You only guess and you guess with your less than common extreme experience. Likely that angry look is just due to developmental testosterone levels many teen boys deal with. Angry for no real reason. If you ride this site only to try to bring balance, you are guilty of restitutional targeting of women for you, and only try to justify it because you think everyone is going home to women like your ma and ex and you're doing it for those men. Men on here, you only hear their side. There is his side, her side, and then there is the truth. And you do not only hear men being mistreated on LS. And this still does not answer the question. You are married to your wife, not your ma or your ex. So if I were "one of THOSE women" what does it do to you and your life today?
Author Woggle Posted May 8, 2010 Author Posted May 8, 2010 Maybe so but I know that look on boys. They look defeated and it is not a look I see on many girls. I am trying to get restitution against women. I don't target innocent women though I admit I used to never believe it when a woman said she had a happy relationship which I was wrong about. With any post you are only hearing one side of the story but what gets me the most is these married women who chase after OM many who are married themselves then get all the sympathy in the world as if they are somehow the victim. Give me a break. If you also notice those happy relationship threads always have the same 4 or 5 people going back and forth. At least it shows that some women know how to appreciate a good man even if there numbers are few. If you were one of those women it does not do anything to my life but if you were which you are not it would have a ripple effect on the world because you would be a sending a messed kid out into society.
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