dreamingoftigers Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 so maybe its not that you guys can't get a date, but the reality is she may be a little chunkier then you'd like. Oh sigh, life comes with sacrifices. I honestly don't completely understand what the big deal is with weight anyways, I am much more adventurous then any of my thin friends. I cook better, I am loads (ha ha) of fun and can keep up to anyone just as well. So what, I look different.
Author OpenGL Posted May 4, 2010 Author Posted May 4, 2010 It depends what you mean about chunkier. There's a huge attractiveness difference between thick and fat/obese.
sagetalk Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 Those numbers for homosexuality were actually the most conservative ones that I found. And LOL on the obesity, I am obese and never stayed single for very long. Maybe guys should meet a nice girl and then try to get her out for as many walks and hikes as they can LOL. Notice I said large majority. There are still men who actually prefer obese women, but they are in a small minority. And many women who think they are fat, are not, and many who think they are not, are. I always encourage everyone (man or woman) to get fit and get in shape. It makes your appeal to the largest majorities of the opposite sex sky rocket. And it makes you feel great which is the best part.
sagetalk Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 1. I honestly don't completely understand what the big deal is with weight anyways, 2. I am much more adventurous then any of my thin friends. I cook better, I am loads (ha ha) of fun and can keep up to anyone just as well. So what, I look different. 1. Men are creatures of sight, and we love the shape of a woman. The more body fat over normal a woman has, the more it covers her shape up. Plus, it's also unhealthy. 2. Being a great person has nothing to do with being fat or skinny. Men are visual and women are emotional that's just how it works. Men respond to the female shape and women respond to men who make them feel great. If you are a great person, then if you get fit, you will blow past your skinny friends in regards to men. Men are sick of stuck up, prissy girls who think just because they are fit that you should do whatever they say. If you give them fitness without the attitude, you'd have more men then you could ever want.
dreamingoftigers Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 Well then it looks like it is time to hit the treadmill and dump my husband I gotta ask, is 27 getting a little too old to ever be attractive ?
dreamingoftigers Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 I am almost 28 and I wonder if really pushing to lose the weight is really even going to be worth it. I mean won't it just look funny and I am kind of old already.
electricity Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 Bitchy superficial women, male/female ratio. At first, I didn't see a problem: bitchy, superficial women seem to be a perfect personality fit for you. Then it hit me - given the very description, neither of you are looking for personality. Paradoxes are so much fun. Let's assume for a minute that all the sweeping generalizations in this thread are true. The only pretty women only want rich, sculpted men. The only women who will give you the time of day are too lazy for your "standards." It seems to me all problems would be solved if you worked harder and got the higher-paying job and sculpted body - all the pretty women will be flocking to you!
sagetalk Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 Well then it looks like it is time to hit the treadmill and dump my husband I gotta ask, is 27 getting a little too old to ever be attractive ? This goes beyond being attractive, it's about longevity of life as well. And you're husband will say you don't need to, but you're not gonna break his heart by doing it that's for sure. I'm older than 27, and I'm attracted to women my age and older. So, yes women can be over 27 can be very attractive. Women can be physically attractive well into their life. Why give up at 27, it makes no sense. If you don't want to do for yourself, do it for your kids or future kids and grandchildren. The closer you get to optimum body fat (forget weight), the more healthier and happier you will be. Treadmills no, light weights yes. Get a good fitness program on DVD, it's just a half hour a couple times a week.
electricity Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 This goes beyond being attractive, it's about longevity of life as well. And you're husband will say you don't need to, but you're not gonna break his heart by doing it that's for sure. I'm older than 27, and I'm attracted to women my age and older. So, yes women can be over 27 can be very attractive. Women can be physically attractive well into their life. Why give up at 27, it makes no sense. If you don't want to do for yourself, do it for your kids or future kids and grandchildren. The closer you get to optimum body fat (forget weight), the more healthier and happier you will be. Treadmills no, light weights yes. Get a good fitness program on DVD, it's just a half hour a couple times a week. I agree with this. It's never too late to make a change towards a healthy lifestyle. You don't even have to go into it with a goal of weight loss; just living healthier - think of weight loss as a bonus. If you start exercising more & eating healthier, that kind of lifestyle will be passed on to your kids too, and they'll live healthier lives.
blind_otter Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 To many women's utter discredit, the above statement is true. It is a sad reflection of the quality of girls that are being brought up today. They may be smart, cute, and fun, but they haven't the slightest idea how to select a male for a healthy long term relationship. The above statement will land you in divorced with two kids land frequently. blah blah dee blah (sic) Well good lord, who uses their vagina as the exclusive means of selecting a partner? Someone who is mentally challenged, perhaps? The statement merely illustrates that NO ONE DATES ANYONE THAT THEY DON'T FIND SEXUALLY ATTRACTIVE. But please, prove me wrong. Have you managed to date a quality individual who does not make you sexually aroused?
blind_otter Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 This is why I'm celibate. Men. I just don't like most of them. And it has nothing to do with money, time in the gym (I hate the way those bodies look), or anything mentioned by the men who are upset by their inability to date the type of women they perceive as attractive who have posted on this thread. I want my brain stimulated. I have been complimented about my looks, my body, my pussy - thousands of times. Ad nauseum. To the point that those compliments are meaningless. But a witty, charming person who owns their faults and accepts themselves completely? Well that would be a fantastic find, ineed. Butter, not bitter.
dreamingoftigers Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 What is your height and weight? I am 5'8" and about double what your acceptable limit is. I thought about starting my own weight-loss and support thread on here so that I would be accountable to a group of people and many some folks could give me tips etc. Unfortunately I had decided against that today because it may just discredit a lot of my posts. Or that everytime I made some kind of progress some douchebag who make a rude comment. Or sometimes if someone differed in opinion from me, they might just use that against me too, whether or not they had a valid argument. (blah blah blah "of course you husband cheated, you are fat" " how can you not expect your husband to look at porn when you are that fat") When he actually married me at 315 pounds and claimed he loved it and thought that fat girls were somehow sexier. And that he is obese too. So yeah, I want my kid to be healthy and I watch VERY carefully what she eats but I also know she is going to pick up on my habits. I am also pretty uncomfortable about my body and about losing my breasts (which is EXACTLY what will happen if I lose weight) Every woman in my family is flatter then a pancake (there is also a strong no-ass gene in my family too, it is amazing that anyone in that line managed to get married and have kids) and my breasts were the only part of me I felt comfortable with. Sigh, it sucks.
Author OpenGL Posted May 4, 2010 Author Posted May 4, 2010 I am 5'8" and about double what your acceptable limit is. I thought about starting my own weight-loss and support thread on here so that I would be accountable to a group of people and many some folks could give me tips etc. Unfortunately I had decided against that today because it may just discredit a lot of my posts. Or that everytime I made some kind of progress some douchebag who make a rude comment. Or sometimes if someone differed in opinion from me, they might just use that against me too, whether or not they had a valid argument. (blah blah blah "of course you husband cheated, you are fat" " how can you not expect your husband to look at porn when you are that fat") When he actually married me at 315 pounds and claimed he loved it and thought that fat girls were somehow sexier. And that he is obese too. So yeah, I want my kid to be healthy and I watch VERY carefully what she eats but I also know she is going to pick up on my habits. I am also pretty uncomfortable about my body and about losing my breasts (which is EXACTLY what will happen if I lose weight) Every woman in my family is flatter then a pancake (there is also a strong no-ass gene in my family too, it is amazing that anyone in that line managed to get married and have kids) and my breasts were the only part of me I felt comfortable with. Sigh, it sucks. Everybody in your family got married with kids depsite the bad genes because you are a woman. All you have to do is be alive and you will always have a long line of suitors. Now that I have the ashole comments out of the way, if you really want to lose the weight (who cares if you lose your breast and ass), PM me and I can give you some pointers and/or advice. Don't bother with any kind of support group on here, be accountable to yourself only and don't rely on others for motivation.
stillafool Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 Curious. In the dynamics of dating, why do single heterosexual men have the hardest time getting dates/hooking up/getting girlfriends? Why are the odds stacked so heavily against us? Why does society spit in our face? All of the following have absolutely no trouble in the dating world: Single heterosexual women Single bi/lesbian women Single bi/gay men Transgendered Yet, it is VERY HARD for a straight guy to get ANYWHERE in the dating world. Just take a look at this forum for proof of that. Then lower your standards. If that isn't low enough, go lower or just do without. No one here is going to be able to convince you that it is any other way than the way you see your life. So you may as well stop complaining about how you can't get anyone and just realize you will be alone.
sagetalk Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 1. Well good lord, who uses their vagina as the exclusive means of selecting a partner? Someone who is mentally challenged, perhaps? 2. The statement merely illustrates that NO ONE DATES ANYONE THAT THEY DON'T FIND SEXUALLY ATTRACTIVE. 3. But please, prove me wrong. Have you managed to date a quality individual who does not make you sexually aroused? 1. A very large number of women, they just refuse to admit it. It may not be exclusive, but if it's number one, that's still a sad commentary. I thought you actually admitted it, but now you're backtracking. 2. I would hope no one would. 3. I am physically attracted to most women, that's not my problem. My problem is finding a girl who actually wants there to be more in a relationship other than feeling the high's and the low's and being physical.
sagetalk Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 1. So yeah, I want my kid to be healthy and I watch VERY carefully what she eats but I also know she is going to pick up on my habits. 2. I am also pretty uncomfortable about my body and about losing my breasts (which is EXACTLY what will happen if I lose weight) Every woman in my family is flatter then a pancake (there is also a strong no-ass gene in my family too, it is amazing that anyone in that line managed to get married and have kids) and my breasts were the only part of me I felt comfortable with. Sigh, it sucks. 1. You're kid will watch you and look up to you. Set the standard in her life that you want her to be fit and healthy just like you. 2. Awful excuses, you'll never regret getting in shape at any age or size.
somedude81 Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 Yes it is harder for heterosexual men to find partners. We are the hunters. It is natural for the hunters to have a low success rate. The odds of a lion actually getting a kill are only 17%. That translates to having one successful hunt for every seven. Instead of complaining, the only that thing that can be done is try and become a better hunter. So even though a woman can get laid whenever she wants and gay men have crazy lives, it doesn't matter that it's not fair to straight men. Because of the simple fact, that life isn't fair. You've got three choices: Become a better hunter Go after 'easier' prey Give up
dreamingoftigers Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 1. You're kid will watch you and look up to you. Set the standard in her life that you want her to be fit and healthy just like you. 2. Awful excuses, you'll never regret getting in shape at any age or size. 2) they are not awful "excuses" literally it is a choice for me, either lose my gut or my breasts. It is a very uncomfortable idea to lose my breasts because as far as I am concerned they are my ONLY link to being feminine whatsoever. I may not regret getting in shape but I will certainly feel very uncomfortable and awkward without my breasts and definitely like less of a woman.
Author OpenGL Posted May 4, 2010 Author Posted May 4, 2010 Yes it is harder for heterosexual men to find partners. We are the hunters. It is natural for the hunters to have a low success rate. The odds of a lion actually getting a kill are only 17%. That translates to having one successful hunt for every seven. Instead of complaining, the only that thing that can be done is try and become a better hunter. So even though a woman can get laid whenever she wants and gay men have crazy lives, it doesn't matter that it's not fair to straight men. Because of the simple fact, that life isn't fair. You've got three choices: Become a better hunter Go after 'easier' prey Give up I hate analogies like this. If those were really my options, I would be come a better hunter. It is not like the wild where the strongest/smartest wins the the prey. The game is rigged.
Woggle Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 The problem with most men here is that they make getting a woman their primary focus in life. They have nothing else going on that brings them fullfilment so they base all their worth on finding one and when they fail while looking in the wrong places it makes them more depressed. Just live your life and build yourself up and with that the women will come. You will meet more quality people just doing your thing than you will do in some meat market where nobody really enjoys themselves anyway.
Author OpenGL Posted May 4, 2010 Author Posted May 4, 2010 The problem with most men here is that they make getting a woman their primary focus in life. They have nothing else going on that brings them fullfilment so they base all their worth on finding one and when they fail while looking in the wrong places it makes them more depressed. Just live your life and build yourself up and with that the women will come. You will meet more quality people just doing your thing than you will do in some meat market where nobody really enjoys themselves anyway. This is one of the most false cliches in dating ever. (Most) men really do have to try to get women, they don't just fall into your lap as women experience. "You'll find someone when you're not looking" is bul**** (for men). I have been doing my own thing for quite a while, and I am pretty much never in contract with women and have no opportunities.
dreamingoftigers Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 be confident and go where the women are. For chrissakes go to the frigging grocery store. I used to work at Safeway and people met there all the time, weirdest thing. I had someone try to pick me up in superstore last week
Woggle Posted May 4, 2010 Posted May 4, 2010 This is one of the most false cliches in dating ever. (Most) men really do have to try to get women, they don't just fall into your lap as women experience. "You'll find someone when you're not looking" is bul**** (for men). I have been doing my own thing for quite a while, and I am pretty much never in contract with women and have no opportunities. Then how come doing my thing worked great for me? When I met my wife I wasn't even trying. We just happened to be sitting close to each other watching the waves and we struck up a conversation and here we are. I didn't use some stupid PUA game or use some cheesy line on her.
Author OpenGL Posted May 4, 2010 Author Posted May 4, 2010 be confident and go where the women are. For chrissakes go to the frigging grocery store. I used to work at Safeway and people met there all the time, weirdest thing. I had someone try to pick me up in superstore last week I go to the grocery store all the time, girls call security if you even look in their direction. How receptive were you to the guy trying to pick you up last week?
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