zebracolors Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 I would think that 18-30 would be the time that a woman has the highest sex drive. If I'm any indication or an example, it seems to slack off after 30
CarrieT Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 I would think that 18-30 would be the time that a woman has the highest sex drive. If I'm any indication or an example, it seems to slack off after 30 Have you reached your 40s yet? Your sex drive will come back with a vengeance...
Citizen Erased Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 I know this sounds sexist but these so called sexually free women are the ones that are the first to cheat on you and then justify so men have good reason for not wanting their gf to be one of these types. Get mad at me all you want but from what I have seen it is true. Are you freaking kidding me? So make sure your women are sexually suppressed so they don't cheat? Your wife must have a thrilling sex life with you. No offense but out of the people I have personally known to have cheated the MAJORITY of them have been male. So can that be put down to them being sexually free too? Ridiculous as per usual.
CarrieT Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 I know this sounds sexist but these so called sexually free women are the ones that are the first to cheat on you and then justify so men have good reason for not wanting their gf to be one of these types. Get mad at me all you want but from what I have seen it is true. Woggle, since you seem intent upon propagating this theory, do you actually have any scientific numbers to back up this theory? It is less sounding of sexism as much as the Beating-The-Dead-Horse-Woggle theory of women in general and I am very curious how many women (in numbers) you know for a FACT are sexually free AND cheaters. Because -- as you well know from my postings before -- I am more than sexually liberated and even when I was not getting any from my partners, I did not cheat. Yet you keep reiterating this "what I have seen is true" statement when you KNOW there are others who contradict your theory.
Woggle Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 Are you freaking kidding me? So make sure your women are sexually suppressed so they don't cheat? Your wife must have a thrilling sex life with you. No offense but out of the people I have personally known to have cheated the MAJORITY of them have been male. So can that be put down to them being sexually free too? Ridiculous as per usual. It is similiar to the word independent. Any adult should be able to support themselves but women who shout from the rooftops about how independent they are are sending major red flags. Of course I want a woman that enjoys sex but women who go on about how sexually liberated they are and how men want to suppress are usually feminists who think nothing of messing around behind a man's back. My wife very much enjoys sex but she is not intent on beating men at our own game as some women call it like many seem to be.
Ruby Slippers Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 Woggle, sometimes you sound like an old man. And I know that deep down you are cooler and more with it and open minded than that.
CarrieT Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 Woggle, sometimes you sound like an old man. And I know that deep down you are cooler and more with it and open minded than that. I just looked at his pictures and was shocked to see how young he was. All this time, I assumed he was in his late 50s... I'm officially giving up trying to convince him otherwise of anything. After 11,000+ posts on this board, to have such a negative worldview shows no growth which makes me very, very sad for him. I even remember a post where he had been reading his wife's email and was shocked to learn that his wife really did love him. That was over a year ago and he still thinks so poorly of women because of being so horrifically burned once. Well many of us have been hurt -- over and over as a matter of fact -- yet we heal and grow and move on, learning to trust and love again. But apparently not Woggle. So sad.
Woggle Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 Woggle, sometimes you sound like an old man. And I know that deep down you are cooler and more with it and open minded than that. I have been told that I am 31 going on 51 and in many ways I am proud of that. I have old guys tell me they wish they were this wise at my age. I am in the best physical shape I have ever been and I am much smarter than I was at 21 so life is good. I am not some male chauvinist who believes that women who enjoy sex are filthy and dirty but women who constantly toot their own horn about these issues send out red flags. I just feel that men need to stop worrying about being pc or being sexist and genuinely start to use some good criteria when picking a mate. I would rather sound like an old man then ever end up like some of the men you see on this forum. I can see the signs of a cheater or a walkway wife early on and I encourage men to look out for them. Too often men let things slide or overlook things in the name of being progressive and enlightened and you only have to look at this board to see where it gets them.
Ruby Slippers Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 I think Woggle has opened his mind at least a little, just in the time I've been acquainted with him on this board. Hey, I have, too. I admit I'm a dreamer and an idealist, so maybe I'm looking at the situation with my rosy shades. But I don't think he'd keep talking if he didn't care. I have seen him bend more lately. I see that as progress.
Ruby Slippers Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 I am not some male chauvinist who believes that women who enjoy sex are filthy and dirty but women who constantly toot their own horn about these issues send out red flags. We're not tooting our horns. We just want men to get with it and figure out that many women love sex just as much as men, and there is nothing wrong with that. A healthy enjoyment of sex has nothing to do with cheating -- quite the opposite, as I see it. Several women in this thread have told you we love sex yet have never cheated. We have no reason to lie. I can see the signs of a cheater or a walkway wife early on and I encourage men to look out for them. If "not into sex" is one of your criteria for a mate, you're going to have a very dull and passionless life with your partner.
Woggle Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 Right now I my wife loves me and I know good women do exist. I also acknowledge there are women on this board who are in genuinely happy relationships though those threads usually tend to have the same few people. That being said I still encourage men not to end up like those on this board. There are tons of article written everyday about how women can avoid cheaters, abusers and any type of men who will mistreat them so what is so wrong with similiar advice for men? Why can't be encouraged how to look for signs of a future cheater or walkway wife so he can save himself a world of heartbreak? Getting back to the topic of the thread I think sexual freedom is just like financial independence in the sense that they are both positive things in and of themselves but misandrists have seized on them as just another club to beat men with.
Woggle Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 There are many women who enjoy sex and are 100% faithful but there are also many women who view affairs as part of feminist sexual liberation and they give women with good intentions a bad name. Not into sex is not criteria for a mate but a desire to beat men at out own game is a major red flag.
sally4sara Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 There are many women who enjoy sex and are 100% faithful but there are also many women who view affairs as part of feminist sexual liberation and they give women with good intentions a bad name. Not into sex is not criteria for a mate but a desire to beat men at out own game is a major red flag. Honestly woggle, use some sense. Cheaters will come up with lots of fake reasons to justify their actions, but they are not the real reasons. Why would you lend credibility to the claim of "feminist sexual liberation" out of someone who lies? Why lend it more credibility than any other reason they might have - like they just wanted something and didn't care enough about the aftermath?
Woggle Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 Honestly woggle, use some sense. Cheaters will come up with lots of fake reasons to justify their actions, but they are not the real reasons. Why would you lend credibility to the claim of "feminist sexual liberation" out of someone who lies? Why lend it more credibility than any other reason they might have - like they just wanted something and didn't care enough about the aftermath? Of course that is the real reason but they are really good at twisting it around and putting some self rightous spin on it. I just encourage men to look out for the signs of a woman who does this. Not all women are like this by any means but the ones that are give off red flags.
zebracolors Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 Have you reached your 40s yet? Your sex drive will come back with a vengeance... Actually I'm 34, 35 in June. I'm thinking though with me there may be other issues involved, but not too sure.
CarrieT Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 Actually I'm 34, 35 in June. I'm thinking though with me there may be other issues involved, but not too sure. I lost my sex drive in my mid-30s as well. I changed BC, went a counselor, etc... I'm honestly not sure every body is supposed to have a 110% sex drive their entire adult life. I know I have gone through several ebbs and flows. It was much, much higher in my 40s but even through the first six years of this decade, has not been consistent.
sally4sara Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 Of course that is the real reason but they are really good at twisting it around and putting some self rightous spin on it. I just encourage men to look out for the signs of a woman who does this. Not all women are like this by any means but the ones that are give off red flags. If you know it is a BS reason, why do you think a self proclaimed feminist is more likely to cheat? Wouldn't it just mean deceitful people are likely to blame anything but themselves - be they a feminist, a bingo player, or pirate, they were just a cheat FIRST and whatever they call themselves second (if at all).
Pyro Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 I have been told that I am 31 going on 51 and in many ways I am proud of that. I have old guys tell me they wish they were this wise at my age. I am in the best physical shape I have ever been and I am much smarter than I was at 21 so life is good. I am not some male chauvinist who believes that women who enjoy sex are filthy and dirty but women who constantly toot their own horn about these issues send out red flags. I just feel that men need to stop worrying about being pc or being sexist and genuinely start to use some good criteria when picking a mate. I would rather sound like an old man then ever end up like some of the men you see on this forum. I can see the signs of a cheater or a walkway wife early on and I encourage men to look out for them. Too often men let things slide or overlook things in the name of being progressive and enlightened and you only have to look at this board to see where it gets them. I find it hard to believe that life is good for you....... If the bold part is true then why are you so worried about your wife cheating on you? If you can see the signs early on then you shouldn't have to worry like you do with the thousands of identical threads that you start.
Woggle Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 If you know it is a BS reason, why do you think a self proclaimed feminist is more likely to cheat? Wouldn't it just mean deceitful people are likely to blame anything but themselves - be they a feminist, a bingo player, or pirate, they were just a cheat FIRST and whatever they call themselves second (if at all). I am aware that many feminists just want to create a better and more equal world and I support but as long as feminism is used as a reason to justify cheating by some women I will consider it a red flag. I don't think it is a dealbreaker because it could just mean that she believes in equality but a man should see what a woman really means when she claims to be a feminist.
sally4sara Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 I am aware that many feminists just want to create a better and more equal world and I support but as long as feminism is used as a reason to justify cheating by some women I will consider it a red flag. I don't think it is a dealbreaker because it could just mean that she believes in equality but a man should see what a woman really means when she claims to be a feminist. So what you're saying is that it doesn't matter how many cheaters are self proclaimed -anything else not feminists - YOU'RE not ready to see that being self proclaimed anything has little to do with a person's integrity. Do the men who cheat do so because they are feminists?
lino Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 Unless a womn exploring her sexuality means screwing 100 different guys, I can't think of a single man that would be against trying new things with his girl. I know I wouldn't. I've been with women who loved sex as much as me and it was great!
Woggle Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 So what you're saying is that it doesn't matter how many cheaters are self proclaimed -anything else not feminists - YOU'RE not ready to see that being self proclaimed anything has little to do with a person's integrity. Do the men who cheat do so because they are feminists? It does matter and I know why men cheat. Men cheat because they are selfish and want to screw around while the little wife is at home taking care of them. Many times they blame their gender or whatever which is wrong. Women also cheat because they are selfish and in many cases they blame their men for all their unhappiness and feel they have a right to do it. In most of these case women do use feminism to justify it. I have heard many cheating women talk about an affair as if it were some feminist awakening for them. We are getting way off topic but when I said that so called sexually free women cheat more I am not talking about women who enjoy sex. I am talking about women who always blame men for suppressing their sexuality. Women who think this way often take the leap to cheating and affairs as their way of rebelling against the patriarchy they view as holding them back.
sally4sara Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 It does matter and I know why men cheat. Men cheat because they are selfish and want to screw around while the little wife is at home taking care of them. Many times they blame their gender or whatever which is wrong. Women also cheat because they are selfish and in many cases they blame their men for all their unhappiness and feel they have a right to do it. In most of these case women do use feminism to justify it. I have heard many cheating women talk about an affair as if it were some feminist awakening for them. We are getting way off topic but when I said that so called sexually free women cheat more I am not talking about women who enjoy sex. I am talking about women who always blame men for suppressing their sexuality. Women who think this way often take the leap to cheating and affairs as their way of rebelling against the patriarchy they view as holding them back. And when you say many, we already know that mean the TWO you work with. I see that therapy is doing you well. Back in the oven with you; you're not ready yet.
Woggle Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 And when you say many, we already know that mean the TWO you work with. I see that therapy is doing you well. Back in the oven with you; you're not ready yet. The two of them but you even see the undercurrent on this board. I can admit now that many good women exist including my wife and some on this board. I have even aplolgized to some women I have accused of lying about being happy and that includes yourself as well. I am sorry that I misconstrued a lot of what you said in the past. That being said all you have to do is look at the cheating and divorce forums on this board to see why men need to be very careful when choosing a mate.
CarrieT Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 That being said all you have to do is look at the cheating and divorce forums on this board to see why men need to be very careful when choosing a mate. That being said all you have to do is look at the cheating and divorce forums on this board to see why WOMEN need to be very careful when choosing a mate. It goes both ways, Woggle -- stop being so myopic.
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