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I don't have any advice since I never meet women...I mean c'mon, I'm a skinny, nerd with no game....:D

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Why do you care if a woman rejects you? Have you seen the kind of men that most women swoon over these days? Be glad you are not some steroid enhanced jerk.

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Thanks for the advice guys i hope i can use it on day..

 

You guys are right i shouldnt take rejection so badly its just that ive never had sucess so when i get rejected it feels like no women is ever gonna be attracted to me..

 

If i had prior sucess i could say after a rejection F it i know theres women out there who are attracted to me and move on..

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Thanks for the advice guys i hope i can use it on day..

 

You guys are right i shouldnt take rejection so badly its just that ive never had sucess so when i get rejected it feels like no women is ever gonna be attracted to me..

 

If i had prior sucess i could say after a rejection F it i know theres women out there who are attracted to me and move on..

 

yeah i was in this hole after my first gf left me, we met at a young age, so id never been "in the game" so to speak.

 

i thought no other woman would eeevver look at me etc then once i got over it, got my mojo back, i landed about 5 girl friends that year and each one was more attractive than the last!

 

now although im lonely and single, i can see the type of girl (if going by looks alone) that i can achieve then pah! the worlds in your hands.

 

im content with me, but id like to have another girl in my life tbh.

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this reminded me, i was out the other night and this girl was alll over me! haha and she tried kissing me, but tbh i didnt fancy it, i was happy dancing with her and drinkin with my mates.

 

you should have seen the look on her face hahaha, she even told her mates not to dance with me.

 

shows you its not only guys who cant handle rejection ;)

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The trick is to just be yourself

 

This, right here, is one of the worst "common wisdom" pieces of dating advice ever.

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This, right here, is one of the worst "common wisdom" pieces of dating advice ever.

 

Yes and no. The idea is to be the BEST that you can be, not as you currently are.

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Yes and no. The idea is to be the BEST that you can be, not as you currently are.

If being yourself is causing you not to get women, why would you continue to be yourself?

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If being yourself is causing you not to get women, why would you continue to be yourself?

 

Make a list of qualities about yourself that you know, without hesitation, that you like. Then make a list of things you dislike. Then make a list of things about yourself that you know might turn some women off. Work on the latter two while preserving the first. It's difficult, but as someone who has been working on it for a while and seeing results, it's worth doing.

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The trick is to just be yourself and relax around them. Simply be the guy that is out to have a good time regardless of whether or not he will get laid that night. A woman can smell that a mile away and will naturally be attracted to you because of the fact that you are not actively pursuing them the way every other guy is.

 

Wise words right here.

 

Stop looking at woman like it's game because the really good ones already know what they want and they'll tell you honestly. The only ones that ever actually play games are the ones that don't take you seriously and dangle you with a hook.

 

If you have to " pick up" women be prepared to go beyond their looks. Aside from their appearances that attract you, you have to learn to read people, so you can save yourself alot of pain if they do reject you. And men, women will reject you if they smell desperation.

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If being yourself is causing you not to get women, why would you continue to be yourself?

 

As TheBigQuestion said, if being yourself isn't good enough, then it's time to improve who you are...

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As TheBigQuestion said, if being yourself isn't good enough, then it's time to improve who you are...

Which is why being yourself is bad advice. If who you are isn't working, improve (change) yourself or prepare to be lonely.

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I guess you're right. Again, there's nothing wrong with change if it's change for the better.

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I guess you're right. Again, there's nothing wrong with change if it's change for the better.

 

Exactly. People try to pretending changing yourself for women is a bad thing. Guess what, most men don't like fat asses, and most wouldn't think a woman losing weight to attract men isn't a bad thing either. If you're a nerd, grow up and change, most women don't like nerds.

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Now, with that said, improving yourself still may not get you women. So it is better to change yourself with something you will be happy with.

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OGL,

If you want help - people here can help you. That is however only possible if:

- you drop your defeatist attitude

- you show a willingness to actually self describe sufficiently that folks have some idea of what you are currently like

- you are willing to change your tactics - and possibly some behaviors

 

If the answers are sure, sure and sure - I will post more. If not I will let others bang their heads against the brick wall you erect around yourself.

 

Which is why being yourself is bad advice. If who you are isn't working, improve (change) yourself or prepare to be lonely.
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OGL,

If you want help - people here can help you. That is however only possible if:

- you drop your defeatist attitude

- you show a willingness to actually self describe sufficiently that folks have some idea of what you are currently like

- you are willing to change your tactics - and possibly some behaviors

 

If the answers are sure, sure and sure - I will post more. If not I will let others bang their heads against the brick wall you erect around yourself.

 

Uh, actually this isn't about me, I'm too far gone.

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Uh, actually this isn't about me, I'm too far gone.

 

You know what, if you want to help others, first help yourself. That'll be proof enough that there's hope for the guys out there.

 

Just saying, you can't sell a product unless you have some proof and backup claims that it works.

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Just saying, you can't sell a product unless you have some proof and backup claims that it works.

 

People do it all the time. Diet pills for example are a multibillion dollar industry.

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People do it all the time. Diet pills for example are a multibillion dollar industry.

 

I'd have to agree. It's the along the same reason as why fat people work out because they want to be in shape. That requires a change.

 

I think if one is having trouble attracting women, he should learn about the fundamentals of attraction. That too requires a change.

 

Changing yourself (for the better) is always a good thing.

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Exactly. People try to pretending changing yourself for women is a bad thing. Guess what, most men don't like fat asses, and most wouldn't think a woman losing weight to attract men isn't a bad thing either. If you're a nerd, grow up and change, most women don't like nerds.

 

Yep. You could even go as far as to say that's why women put on make up on, to obtain a different look. That is a change from their original, makeup-less looks.

 

People change all the time.

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So what is going wrong in our society? Whose responsibility is it to teach men how to attract women? Why is it that we teach or kids grammar, math, science, engineering, etc, but we don't teach them something as fundamental as attracting women?

 

 

Because you cannot teach someone how to be wanted by a particular person. It cannot be taught. Other than to say be clean, mannerable, honest and courteous. The rest of the attraction is between the two people involved. How many times have people gone on blind dates and the person had everything you could want but still no attraction.

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Because you cannot teach someone how to be wanted by a particular person. It cannot be taught. Other than to say be clean, mannerable, honest and courteous. The rest of the attraction is between the two people involved. How many times have people gone on blind dates and the person had everything you could want but still no attraction.

You misunderstand the point.

 

The biggest complication for men trying to date women is that the two sexes think differently. Women don't really say what the mean.

 

Consider these questions or statements asked about a guy from a girl, (taken from a post on a different forum)

 

She says: Why did you break up?

 

She says: Do you want a girlfriend?

 

She says: I kinda like some guy.

 

She says: Do you like that girl?

 

A helpful regular female poster then gave her input

 

She says: Why did you break up?

Translation: What stupid crap do you pull and what do I have to watch out for?

 

She says: Do you want a girlfriend?

Translation: Are you looking for a relationship or are you a player?

 

She says: I kinda like some guy.

Translation: I'm desirable and wanted by other men

 

She says: Do you like that girl?

Translation: Is she your girlfriend? How hard do I have to work to make you mine?

 

Stuff like this, men have no idea.

 

Then there is also the problem of what actually attracts women and how much time the guy has to do something with her before she friendzones him. There are other aspects that some men just don't get.

 

Another thing that can be taught are basic grooming and style tips

 

I know there is a ton of information out there for these topics but most men don't turn to outside sources of information till they are in their early 20's. And by then it may be too late for some.

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Why do these questions need to be translated? Can't you just answer them as asked.

 

 

How about this:

 

She says: Why did you break up? Give the reason short and sweet

 

She says: Do you want a girlfriend? Yes, No or Not right now

 

She says: I kinda like some guy. Good Luck! He's a lucky man.

 

She says: Do you like that girl? Yes, no or say she's nice.

 

Don't read things into questions, you aren't psychic, just answer them as given.

 

A helpful regular female poster then gave her input

 

She says: Why did you break up?

Translation: What stupid crap do you pull and what do I have to watch out for?

 

She says: Do you want a girlfriend?

Translation: Are you looking for a relationship or are you a player?

 

She says: I kinda like some guy.

Translation: I'm desirable and wanted by other men

 

She says: Do you like that girl?

Translation: Is she your girlfriend? How hard do I have to work to make you mine?

 

Then there is also the problem of what actually attracts women and how much time the guy has to do something with her before she friendzones him. There are other aspects that some men just don't get.

 

Some of the questions you ask cannot be answered because not all women like the same things. You just have to get out there and be yourself and hopefully attract a lady who likes you.

 

Another thing that can be taught are basic grooming and style tips

 

I know there is a ton of information out there for these topics but most men don't turn to outside sources of information till they are in their early 20's. And by then it may be too late for some.

 

 

Well start by going to a hair salon and getting a really nice hair cut. Ask the stylish to help you choose something you are comfortable with. Then go shopping and buy some new clothes if you need some. Do you have any female friends who canhelp you dress and style your hair? Sisters or cousins who could help?

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:lmao: I call troll.

 

You're a woman. You could NEVER possibly understand how some men truly feel deep inside about this.

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