PhillySpecial Posted April 13, 2010 Posted April 13, 2010 I could care less what they expect... I'm a 30 yr old female and just kicked a dude out of my apartment the other night with blue balls. I didn't give a crap... lol
phineas Posted April 13, 2010 Posted April 13, 2010 going down is SOP on my part. Whether I lick,suck or nibble till she cums or just begs me to pound her I do it because I like to give women pleasure. But too many times i've been with women that won't return the favor & still want me to go down on her. I loose interest because I start to view her as selfish. Those women usually won't get on top or do doggy style either & only have sex in a bed. BOORING! I don't even care if I bust at all yet alone in her mouth. I just really like the look & feel of woman working my shaft with her tongue & lips. I have never just whipped it out & told someone to suck it though when there was no pretext of sex. That's just rude.
eraser Posted April 13, 2010 Posted April 13, 2010 I could care less what they expect... I'm a 30 yr old female and just kicked a dude out of my apartment the other night with blue balls. I didn't give a crap... lol Did he stand outside your window and howl a bit?
Rorschach Posted April 13, 2010 Posted April 13, 2010 I guess while i'm not a huge fan of BJs I would feel somewhat put out if my gf wasn't willing to do all the things I like in bed as I'm willing to do whatever she wants. I'd view it as a sort of inequality and maybe even a deal breaking difference in personality.
PhillySpecial Posted April 13, 2010 Posted April 13, 2010 Did he stand outside your window and howl a bit? I don't think so...lol. He did whine and beg... as a last resort he asked if he could spend the night and promised he'd behave (he was all over me). I was like "Get the F*%k out now!" Who wants to sleep and get poked in the back all night and have to keep pushing some loser off you
stanlovesJ Posted April 13, 2010 Posted April 13, 2010 I agree with you very much on this. It is amazing how many men expect blow jobs from women with little to no effort and don't even return the favour. I would also like to add that many men expect a lot of sexual things from women. They see a woman in a porno movie get done up the butt and then take a big load right in the mouth and they think that is something that all women should do! There is definitely some sense of entitlement in people these days. agreed ,... i will take that into consideration and try to keep that stamped on my forehead
Author melodymatters Posted April 13, 2010 Author Posted April 13, 2010 Well there ya go ! I agree, it's not like a business transaction or anything, but to me oral pleasure is a mutual turn on thing, so if I am going down on my man, it will likely turn me on, and unless there's a fire alarm or something, we should continue onto other mutual pleasures !!!!!! I am not seeing many interactions like the ones I was questioning, so hopefully it's rarer than I thought ! ( or the jerk offs aren't posting, lol) And advice for the ladies : If a guy who is not your self proclaimed BF or husband wants you to go down on him and that the end of the sexual encounter, tell him to go piss up a rope: that's what porn and his right hand is for ! Now, I've had a horny husband and not been in the mood and said " baby, do you want a BJ/HJ ?" because we were partners and he would do the same for me ! But my 7 yr LTR was an international musician and basically got BJ's in every port ( back in his wild days, before we were together) but found the thought of anything more intimate to be disgusting. So, it' just a topic to discuss on a boring Monday night more or less !
eraser Posted April 13, 2010 Posted April 13, 2010 But my 7 yr LTR was an international musician and basically got BJ's in every port ( back in his wild days, before we were together) but found the thought of anything more intimate to be disgusting. He found the thought of intercourse with these women "disgusting"? Interesting.
Author melodymatters Posted April 13, 2010 Author Posted April 13, 2010 He found the thought of intercourse with these women "disgusting"? Interesting. Yeah, thats part of the whole pont of the post. He's in a different town each night, he's the "rock star" and had chicks lining up, and was a young guy, so a blow job from a hot stranger: cool ! Anything else was too intimate, risked diseases, pregnancy etc. Perhaps hearing his experiences and thoughts on the matter influenced my opinions ?!? But I'm guessing you know what your getting into being a "groupie". Seeing somone who doesn't consider you his GF while feeling entitled to BJ's seems so much more degrading !
eraser Posted April 13, 2010 Posted April 13, 2010 Yeah, thats part of the whole pont of the post. He's in a different town each night, he's the "rock star" and had chicks lining up, and was a young guy, so a blow job from a hot stranger: cool ! Anything else was too intimate, risked diseases, pregnancy etc. I don't know...sticking your face in someone's crotch for an indefinite amount of time seems pretty intimate to me. The mind of a man. Fascinating.
Author melodymatters Posted April 13, 2010 Author Posted April 13, 2010 Well ? ....Only you MR Wiggles....only you You're frisky these days Art !
Art_Critic Posted April 13, 2010 Posted April 13, 2010 ....Only you MR Wiggles....only you You're frisky these days Art ! Only for a few more days...
Hot Carl Posted April 13, 2010 Posted April 13, 2010 I don't expect a woman to do anything she doesn't want to do. If she never wants to, then maybe it's not the right relationship. But I don't go around demanding stuff. If she doesn't want to, then she's not going to enjoy doing it. Sooner or later they all want to.
xxoo Posted April 13, 2010 Posted April 13, 2010 Besides, if the girl's on her period but we both get in the mood, what is she supposed to do, give me an HJ? This isn't 8th grade, and you can't give me an HJ better than I can do it myself. Then do it yourself! If you are both in the mood, how is giving you a bj going to help her? Women get uncomfortably swollen when turned on and not relieved, too! I've got NOTHING against oral (giving or receiving), and am happy to give without expecting it in return when I am in the mood to give. But I'll stand with melody in that it should never be demanded or expected as some sort of one-sided masturbation aid.
MrNate Posted April 13, 2010 Posted April 13, 2010 Why can't people just leave us alone? I'm a young guy and I don't suffer from bj entitlement syndrome. Jeez.
Crazy Magnet Posted April 13, 2010 Posted April 13, 2010 I don't randomly give BJs so this has never been an issue for me. I've never had anyone demand one either as I'm sure after meeting me they could tell that would go over like a ton of bricks. For me I have to have a "traditional" commitment before I'm sticking my head in some guy's crotch and that goes for him too. I like to receive a lot, so it's only fair that I give a lot. Both are standard parts of sex with my current BF. It's rare that we don't do oral as part of foreplay.
threebyfate Posted April 13, 2010 Posted April 13, 2010 Do young guys have BJ entitlement syndrome these days ???Too much porn, not enough real life action. On the otherhand if a girl is dumb enough to give a BJ to some random guy, that's her problem.
Art_Critic Posted April 13, 2010 Posted April 13, 2010 that's her problem. Not if she swallows Man.. what it must be like to grow up today... back in my day just feeling a little boob is about all we could expect on a first date..
sumdude Posted April 13, 2010 Posted April 13, 2010 Not if she swallows Man.. what it must be like to grow up today... back in my day just feeling a little boob is about all we could expect on a first date.. LOL pretty much Art.. pretty much. Unless maybe you were on the football team.
TheBigQuestion Posted April 13, 2010 Posted April 13, 2010 I don't think anyone implied that most young men expect to receive oral sex after a first date. That's a bit of an unusual case in comparison to what I (and others) have talked about.
SarahRose Posted April 13, 2010 Posted April 13, 2010 Last summer, I stopped seeing a girl after a few weeks primarily because she flat out refused to either give or receive oral sex. Granted, the fact that she was vapid and JAP-y (you'll know what I'm talking about if you live in the NYC metro area) also played a big role in this decision. I enjoy both giving and receiving very much. Our sex life as a couple would've been crap without it, in my opinion. We weren't "officially" dating but I didn't feel like waiting to get to that point to see if she would do it, as we were already having sex. Do I feel "entitled" to it? That's tough. I view oral sex as standard sexual practice, and I'd view any potential partner who either won't give it or who gives it only as a "sacrifice" because she "loves me" as incompatible due to being more sexually repressed than me. So yes, I guess I do feel entitled to get (and give) oral sex, as much as I feel entitled to having sexual intercourse. Besides, if the girl's on her period but we both get in the mood, what is she supposed to do, give me an HJ? This isn't 8th grade, and you can't give me an HJ better than I can do it myself. So if the girl is on her period and you wont have sex but she will give your oral, then what does she get to be satisfied?
TheBigQuestion Posted April 13, 2010 Posted April 13, 2010 So if the girl is on her period and you wont have sex but she will give your oral, then what does she get to be satisfied? Good question. I have no idea. The times I had sex during that time of the month usually involved doing it in a shower. I should be clear that I never "demanded" oral sex to happen in this context as far as I can remember, it just sort of happened. The only point I tried to make in the whole post was that I couldn't really see myself seriously dating someone who had an aversion to or even moderate dislike of giving and receiving oral sex. Maybe the example I ended the post with wasn't the best one.
SarahRose Posted April 13, 2010 Posted April 13, 2010 Not if she swallows Man.. what it must be like to grow up today... back in my day just feeling a little boob is about all we could expect on a first date.. I wish it was still like that. I think people would be a lot happier.
SarahRose Posted April 13, 2010 Posted April 13, 2010 Too much porn, not enough real life action. On the otherhand if a girl is dumb enough to give a BJ to some random guy, that's her problem. I think the flooding of internet porn is ruining sex for people. It isn't special anymore. The young guys watching this rubbish think that is how women are supposed to act and that is where the entitlement comes from. It really is a shame.
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