Jilly Bean Posted April 9, 2010 Posted April 9, 2010 I've told you before- looking at the OW/OM forum hoping to find stories of monogamy is like trying to find a spare twinkie at a fat kid's party. LMAO. D - everything you say is just so effing funny. Woggle - I suppose seriously bitter and jaded women would feel that way. The ones who don't believe in love, the ones who believe people should just use each other... Luckily, the vast majority are not quite so damaged.
carhill Posted April 9, 2010 Posted April 9, 2010 From the other thread: Marrying the average or ugly loser so he can give us stability and kids and have the hot guys turn us inside out in the bedroom on the side I personally have never heard a woman speak so crassly in person, but have seen numerous examples personally of *actions* matching up with those words. Women go about their business in completely different ways than men. I would never expect a woman to say something like that to my face.
Author Woggle Posted April 9, 2010 Author Posted April 9, 2010 I did make her a dinner and I wonder how much damage I did to her attraction because of it. I am not heartless enough to just ignore her birthday just yet. I made her chicken francaise which some people tell me is better than any restaurant.
melodymatters Posted April 9, 2010 Posted April 9, 2010 I did make her a dinner and I wonder how much damage I did to her attraction because of it. I am not heartless enough to just ignore her birthday just yet. I made her chicken francaise which some people tell me is better than any restaurant. Oh, lovely !! I make a mean Chicken Francaise myself, and I bet yours was delicious ! I also bet your wife was happy and touched, and if she said anything to her work mates, it was glowing praise ! I am a self proclaimed cool chick baby, and I appreciate it when my man does something sweet for me, as I do for him. We don't talk out of school about eachother, and we have each others back. Is it so hard to believe that Mrs woggle is just an attractive ( I've seen the pics) woman who doesn't need to prove anything to anybody, but just enjoys her life and her sweet, handsome husband ????
Author Woggle Posted April 9, 2010 Author Posted April 9, 2010 Is it so hard to believe that Mrs woggle is just an attractive ( I've seen the pics) woman who doesn't need to prove anything to anybody, but just enjoys her life and her sweet, handsome husband ???? Yes it is very hard to believe because I never hear women gushing over this stuff when their men aren't around.
PhillySpecial Posted April 9, 2010 Posted April 9, 2010 I did make her a dinner and I wonder how much damage I did to her attraction because of it. I am not heartless enough to just ignore her birthday just yet. I made her chicken francaise which some people tell me is better than any restaurant. Hopefully the dinner was accompanied by a lovely gift, such as a piece of jewelry, and followed by giving her full body massage, and then followed by... ahem
Crazy Magnet Posted April 9, 2010 Posted April 9, 2010 Many times I'm amazed Woggle managed to talk some girl into marring him with as cranky as he is. While I appreciate the fact that you got "used" or "taken advantage of" by a woman at some point in your past, you're not the only one. I for one got the other end of that shoe, I'd nominate my exH for asshat of the century award any day and feel confident that he would win hands down. I do really wish you'd knock off your pity party for one. Poop happens. Wipe your butt and go on with life. (and don't forget to flush)
melodymatters Posted April 10, 2010 Posted April 10, 2010 That's the new and improved Carhill ; But really, the important question is: how bad things must be if even the most empathetic person around can turn cranky, hmm? How badly must things be for WHOM ? People who carry XX chromosones as opposed to XY ? Is this a summer camp color war ? You can read any and every post I've ever written and you will be hard pressed to find one in which I am slamming men as a gender. I have been hurt, have made mistakes, and have also been blessed. I take responsibility for it all. As far as being full of shyte carhill, I can and will give you my full name, SS #, Real estate license number, property appraisers plat map # for my house, my husbands death certificate, and articles in the Daytona beach News Journal about his death, and 16 yr old daughters college transcripts. What exactly am I full of shyte about ? When I spoke about "my man" in the above post, I was referring to how my husband I related to each other, I am not claiming he is still alive, nor am I pretending I have a new BF. I would be the first to tell people on here that I was lucky enough to have found love again so soon. Honestly, your tone has changed so much lately I almost wonder if it's the same person posting. You seemed too mature and dare I say wise, to have picked up the "frustrated middle schoolers handbook to justify why girls don't like me" flag. But, I guess whatever works. I was here to try and warmly coax wogs out of his dishabile. Was I slagging in the above posts or teasing and trying to get at him to look at the situation in a more postive light ? I too have nothing but free time right now, but i can't say I have a bone to pick with men : half of my family and best friends happen to belong in that classification, and we get along just fine !
Author Woggle Posted April 10, 2010 Author Posted April 10, 2010 I also found this thread on another board. Read as the thread goes on. http://messageboards.ivillage.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=iv-rlsinglelovi&msg=9760.6&x=y Can anybody tell me one reason not to feel the way I do?
melodymatters Posted April 10, 2010 Posted April 10, 2010 Yeah Wog, if I could hold down my vomit long enough I could find you links of pedophiles talking about sex with children, or married men who want to be fisted by a "bear" type, but that would hardly be representitive of ALL men. THAT is the flaw in your logic. No one is saying there aren't evil bitchy woman, just as there are evil, raping men, but to assume that all are such is simpy silly. And I think you know that. I never get an awful feeling from you like I do some male posters. I thnk you are just struggling through your childhood hurt, while still being a good husband in your day to day reality. Vent here if it helps, but walk the walk in your RL as I think you do... Good luck buddy
TaraMaiden Posted April 10, 2010 Posted April 10, 2010 Yes. The person arguing against her is another woman, who finds her attitude deplorable and questionable, which really goes a way to proving that women of this kind (although few and far between) may well exist, but the majority of women are both offended by their attitude and condemn it. Just as men like you (although few and far between) also exist, but thankfully the majority of men are both offended by your attitude and condemn it. You two (she and you) are the exceptions that prove the rule. Woggle, I swear, I have known a vast quantity of women in my life and never yet - not once - have I ever come across a woman like this one, whose attitude I personally shun and deplore. I have, however, met more than a couple of men who echo your attitudes, and frankly, they have few friends. male or female. The very things they rant and rail against, serve to alienate them from the majority of logical and realistic thinkers.
Mary3 Posted April 10, 2010 Posted April 10, 2010 I don't believe she is a troll. I hear this same view expressed it work and others have implied it on here even though they might now be as blatant. Why do you let that comment bother you ? You are very handsome...
Author Woggle Posted April 10, 2010 Author Posted April 10, 2010 Yeah Wog, if I could hold down my vomit long enough I could find you links of pedophiles talking about sex with children, or married men who want to be fisted by a "bear" type, but that would hardly be representitive of ALL men. THAT is the flaw in your logic. No one is saying there aren't evil bitchy woman, just as there are evil, raping men, but to assume that all are such is simpy silly. And I think you know that. I never get an awful feeling from you like I do some male posters. I thnk you are just struggling through your childhood hurt, while still being a good husband in your day to day reality. Vent here if it helps, but walk the walk in your RL as I think you do... Good luck buddy I can find dozens of other links. I hear and read this stuff all the time.
marsle85 Posted April 10, 2010 Posted April 10, 2010 Woggle. I am not trying to antagonize you, or start a conflict. My intentions toward you are honestly the best. You look to be disappointed in women. The link you provided is a clear example of a comment HARDLY representative of how women (or ANYONE) thinks. I don't think she's even a real poster, but even if she is... The truth is, her comment actually reflects flawed morals in human character, regardless of gender. I think you were hurt. I don't know the details, I don't have to. Pain is pain. And it's not easy. But you are bound to relive that pain daily- if you continue to pay special attention to posts like you provided, and ignore posts like mine...and many other fellow (respectable posters). And this is just the online world. I think you struggle with your mistrust of women. I don't think you want to feel the way you do. People are capable of saddening, awful things... this is true. They limit how much you can trust another individual (romantically AND platonically) - but do not further limit yourself by only categorizing the pain with women. I hope you know this is not the case. These events are not strictly found in women, and more importantly - the good you find in people, can be found in men and women. Try to stop emphasizing gender. Start looking at individuals by their ACTIONS and beliefs and values... ignore gender. Men and women are so much more alike than they are different. I cannot say that I know your situation, I'd never want to oversttep my boundaries... but I only want to help. I hope this is the last post you choose to ignore. Have you considered seeing a therapist to address your negative feelings for women? I truly, truly hope you will... it saddens me to think you may be losing out on the goodwill, trust and companionship an entire gender can offer- muchless group of people.
bac Posted April 10, 2010 Posted April 10, 2010 The poster sounded to me as a female with life experience of being married with kids. Sure, most girls can not meet a perfect prince. So, at a certain age, many women should make a choice either get married a guy who wants to do that with her or she will never make it including having kids. There are not so many guys who want to marry a woman during her life. And, a woman never knows if she will meet a better guy in the future if she rejects a real opportunity in present. And, only men have a privilage to choose a wife. Women can not choose husbands first. Women can only accept or reject a guy. Anyway, most women do not cheat on husbands because of the stuff. They are not extremely happy with their sex, but it is not important to them enough to start cheating.
Mme. Chaucer Posted April 11, 2010 Posted April 11, 2010 Yes, Woggle, most women I know are looking to spend the rest of their lives with a buttfaced ugly stupid drooler and have wild smokin' sex with some badboy god. I myself am still looking for one man, just one, who's gruesome and loserly enough for me. When I finally find him and get that ring on my finger, I will at last be a happy, fulfilled, and fully realized woman. Is that so wrong? Why isn't it okay for us women to be happy? Just thinking about waking up every morning to that special man whom I find repulsive and for whom I have no respect or intellectual connection kind of gets me hot. Where, oh, where can I find him?
Citizen Erased Posted April 11, 2010 Posted April 11, 2010 If you're looking for a pissing match, I'll be happy to oblige. Let's go. I've got a lot of bones to pick with women so we can go as long as you've got the stamina. Frankly, I think you're full of shyte, MM Frankly I think you aiming this type of BS at someone like MM, with everything she has been through in the last year, to be disgusting. There are far worse people on here to aim your hostility at. If you have a bone to pick with anyone it's the women that have done you wrong, not women in general. How ridiculous. Christ, at least Woggle's ex wife actually took a shot at him, no wondering why he is how he is really. You on the other hand...
Mme. Chaucer Posted April 11, 2010 Posted April 11, 2010 "There are not so many guys who want to marry a woman during her life." After I'm dead will more guys want to marry me? "And, a woman never knows if she will meet a better guy in the future if she rejects a real opportunity in present." That's lame. If I am only agreeing to marry some guy because he might me my last chance, it doesn't sound like very good grounds to set off on a lifetime together ... does it? "And, only men have a privilage to choose a wife. Women can not choose husbands first. Women can only accept or reject a guy. " FALSE!
Author Woggle Posted April 11, 2010 Author Posted April 11, 2010 Why do you let that comment bother you ? You are very handsome... Handsome men are betrayed all the time.
Author Woggle Posted April 11, 2010 Author Posted April 11, 2010 I won't even link it but one of the first threads I see when I click on new posts is a woman asking for advice on how to have an affair while other posters are sort of egging her on. Yet another reason to trust women.
TaraMaiden Posted April 11, 2010 Posted April 11, 2010 Yes, Woggle, most women I know are looking to spend the rest of their lives with a buttfaced ugly stupid drooler and have wild smokin' sex with some badboy god. I myself am still looking for one man, just one, who's gruesome and loserly enough for me. When I finally find him and get that ring on my finger, I will at last be a happy, fulfilled, and fully realized woman. Is that so wrong? Why isn't it okay for us women to be happy? Just thinking about waking up every morning to that special man whom I find repulsive and for whom I have no respect or intellectual connection kind of gets me hot. Where, oh, where can I find him? Woggle, just in case you weren't sure, I thought I'd help you out by pointing out that yes, this IS sarcasm.... Handsome men are betrayed all the time. Yes, ask Sandra Bullock... a handsome woman if ever I met one. The dogs her ex- has taken up with are so much better than she.... I won't even link it but one of the first threads I see when I click on new posts is a woman asking for advice on how to have an affair while other posters are sort of egging her on. Yet another reason to trust women. Link it, link it!! Let's see how they are 'sort of' egging her on.....
Author Woggle Posted April 11, 2010 Author Posted April 11, 2010 (edited) Sandra Bullock is one of the rare women that I actually feel bad for. She was sincere when she declared her love for him and she did not deserve this. I wonder how most women would react though if the genders were reversed. You wanted a link and here it is. http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t227850/ I know that not all women are like this but enough are that I feel a man should always watch his back and be careful. I think that many good and honest women do not understand what a guy deals with. They assume every woman is as good and honest as they are so they take it personally when a man speaks on what him and his fellow guys go through. Edited April 11, 2010 by Woggle
marsle85 Posted April 12, 2010 Posted April 12, 2010 Sandra Bullock is one of the rare women that I actually feel bad for. She was sincere when she declared her love for him and she did not deserve this. I wonder how most women would react though if the genders were reversed. You wanted a link and here it is. http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t227850/ I know that not all women are like this but enough are that I feel a man should always watch his back and be careful. I think that many good and honest women do not understand what a guy deals with. They assume every woman is as good and honest as they are so they take it personally when a man speaks on what him and his fellow guys go through. Woggle. I don't see what you're talking about. Most of the comments were not supportive of pursuing an affair. Woggle. I don't know what you want from us anymore. You are looking for validation over and over again that you're missing in your own marriage. The point is- the entire female kind is not this evil, manipulative group looking to destroy the sincere hearts of men. Come. On. Let's be real. This is pathetic. You need to target your issues and grow up. Things aren't black and white like you're programming yourself to think they are. You're not living in the real world. I think you find comfort in your women-are-all-evil thoughts because you don't like the imbalance of not knowing WHO to trust. Ultimately, men are going to disapoint you too. What will you do then? Please. For your own sake. Face it: these generalizations you're applying to women ARE NOT REAL.
bac Posted April 12, 2010 Posted April 12, 2010 "There are not so many guys who want to marry a woman during her life." After I'm dead will more guys want to marry me? "And, a woman never knows if she will meet a better guy in the future if she rejects a real opportunity in present." That's lame. If I am only agreeing to marry some guy because he might me my last chance, it doesn't sound like very good grounds to set off on a lifetime together ... does it? "And, only men have a privilage to choose a wife. Women can not choose husbands first. Women can only accept or reject a guy. " FALSE! Sure, many women think the way you do. But, my guess is that they do not get married as often as the women who will do whatever it take to have family and kids.
bac Posted April 12, 2010 Posted April 12, 2010 Cheating has nothing to do with a bad husband. There are many women who get married for all right reasons. But, during marriage things change for women and men. At the begining, they love each other, but later they get bored with each other. So, they might cheat. People cheat only because of their own attitude. If they have an attitude that cheating is a fun addition to their marriage, they will cheat no matter how bad or good their marriage is. If a woman, with an attitude that cheating is wrong, dislikes her husband, she will first divorce him and then she will have fun with hot guys.
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