Brightmoon Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 Does it make you less of a man to when you think women are just there to be tricked into being 'banged'? Or to see women as nothing more than objects to have sex with and having little respect... is that manly? I cannot see this as anything but the most wimp like.. unmanly behaviour.
Author Brightmoon Posted March 30, 2010 Author Posted March 30, 2010 Nope, but thanks for asking "less of a man to when" ? Oops... typo...cannot edit...
MalachiX Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 I'm as guilty as anyone but I think this gag has run it's course.
Author Brightmoon Posted March 30, 2010 Author Posted March 30, 2010 I'm as guilty as anyone but I think this gag has run it's course. Sure.. the format is hackneyd... but I got fed up this morning reading the rubbish about guys talking about women as if they were objects... grrrr... Edit: Oh, and some of it was on the Does .... less manly... threads...hence title..
Woggle Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 It probably just means you are a former good guy who got tired of being chewed up and spit out. I am truly trying not to be so bitter against women but nearly every man I know who treats women this way does so because they were burned.
SilkRose Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 Does it make you less of a man to when you think women are just there to be tricked into being 'banged'? Or to see women as nothing more than objects to have sex with and having little respect... is that manly? I cannot see this as anything but the most wimp like.. unmanly behaviour. YES. It's also pathetic. Casual sex is available if that what a man wants all he has to do is be honest or if he's desperate, look online, rather than lieing and cheating someone, integrity is priceless.
ADF Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 Forget about whether it makes you manly or unmanly. What matters is it makes you a nasty, selfish human being.
Silver_star Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 To be defined as "less of a man" we must first define what constitutes a MAN? What is "Man" behavior? I think we can all have different views and it will always come down to our own values and beliefs and childhoods, and daddy issues. So Im not touching a definition of MAN, because it is only relevant TO me. To me...if a man is going to disrespect me...it makes me lose respect for him, and I have tolerated about enough disrespect from my ex's to learn for the future to NOT tolerate even the slightest bit more.
CarrieT Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 But nearly every man I know who treats women this way does so because they were burned. I disagree -- many of the men I know who are like this were taught this early on from their fathers or other influential men from their childhood. I think how men treat women is taught early on and is perpetuated by stereotypical media; hip-hop videos, b-movies, etc. Just because a man gets burned does not usually mean they are going to move on and be disrespectful of women in the future, but there are MANY men who have had few, if little, relationships BECAUSE of how disrespectful they are from the get-go.
silic0ntoad Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 lol I disagree. Alot of women like men who disrespect them, for whatever reason. So I don't think that even factors into your manliness meter.
Silver_star Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 lol I disagree. Alot of women like men who disrespect them, for whatever reason. So I don't think that even factors into your manliness meter. Alot of women dont eat meat. Alot of women are vegetarians...so does that mean ALL women are vegetarians? Its simply a choice made. If a woman wants to choose to date a man that will disrespect her THATs her choice. If men want to justify being disrespectful by saying thats what woman want (but not who they really are) fine. But thats a lie. If your disrespectful thats just who you are, and u might find some women out there that will stick around or like you even...but so will men that dont...and the quality of their women will be much better might i add.
blind_otter Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 It probably just means you are a former good guy who got tired of being chewed up and spit out. I am truly trying not to be so bitter against women but nearly every man I know who treats women this way does so because they were burned. So then turnabout is fair play, and if a woman was burned, it is alright for her to talk endless crap about the entire male gender, and use them for their money and their cock? I think not. The ends do NOT justify the means. We all have an opportunity, I think, when horrible stuff happens to us - to either rise above it and be a better person, or to marinate on the negativity in our past and become bitter and nasty and hung up on emotional baggage. It is in the end the choices we make, how we live our lives, and whether we choose on a constant, conscious basis to be BETTER than our past might make is - that is the path towards self respect. Otherwise you allow what someone else did to you to control your life, for the rest of your life, and you become stagnate, and eventually you go insane.
Jersey Shortie Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 I think there is too much disrespect between men and women today. And both too often justify it. I am paraphrasing but in the Bible it says that any man that dishonors a woman is only dishonoring himself and hurting himself. Which makes alot of sense. You can't have a healthy respect for yourself and treat someone else like less. Whether it's a woman, child, animal or other men. So someone that uses women in an over the top macho manner is really just covering up deep seed personal insecurities and even a dislike for himself.
Johnny M Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 lol I disagree. Alot of women like men who disrespect them, for whatever reason. So I don't think that even factors into your manliness meter. Exactly. How can you be less of a man for giving women something that they want?
LittleMissWonder Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 Yes. A real man knows how to treat a lady with respect and doesn't act out of insecurity.
threebyfate Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 Does it make you less of a man to when you think women are just there to be tricked into being 'banged'? Or to see women as nothing more than objects to have sex with and having little respect... is that manly? I cannot see this as anything but the most wimp like.. unmanly behaviour.I don't see it as manly or unmanly. I do see it as dysfunctional behaviour.
Rhythmic Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 So then turnabout is fair play, and if a woman was burned, it is alright for her to talk endless crap about the entire male gender, and use them for their money and their cock? I have seen plenty do this and have it justified by other women all the time.
blind_otter Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 I have seen plenty do this and have it justified by other women all the time. Whether you have seen it, or heard it justified is beside the point. There will always be people who have no personal ethics or morals. The point is - is that the RIGHT thing to do? The answer obviously is NO. Therefore there is no excuse for men to be like this, because even if they have a reason to be like that - there is no excuse for this type of behavior.
Rhythmic Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 Whether you have seen it, or heard it justified is beside the point. There will always be people who have no personal ethics or morals. The point is - is that the RIGHT thing to do? The answer obviously is NO. Therefore there is no excuse for men to be like this, because even if they have a reason to be like that - there is no excuse for this type of behavior. There is an excuse. Why respect somebody who shows you no respect? How does a man respect women when so many women have shown him nothing but disrespect?
blind_otter Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 There is an excuse. Why respect somebody who shows you no respect? How does a man respect women when so many women have shown him nothing but disrespect? You realize that not all people are the same people, and you place blame on the shoulders on which it truly lies - those specific individuals who hurt you. You can't live life as the victim of others forever. But perhaps this is a level of maturity that is unrealistic to expect from the general population.
Rhythmic Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 It probably just means you are a former good guy who got tired of being chewed up and spit out. I am truly trying not to be so bitter against women but nearly every man I know who treats women this way does so because they were burned. Just wanting to cosign this here. The only two guys I know who treat women like crap and did so from the very start always had women chasing them and it becomes easy to be a jerk to women when so many are throwing themselves at you. The rest were normal guys who got screwed over too many times and decided the hell with it.
carhill Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 Who decides what is disrespectful? IMO, having strong boundaries and rejecting disrespectful behavior is a healthier path. People choose to behave the way they do. That's their path. No worries. Is that philosophy attractive? So far, not really, but I am hopeful. I will say it feels more balanced and less out of control. There is no doubt, as I look around at my peers, that the men who see women as objects to be banged are the ones banging them. This is in the 45-60 age group. I see it every day. I watch the schizophrenia/MPD - like behaviors. Pretty scary stuff.
bac Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 No, you are still a 100% male. It makes you a defective human being who has low emotional intelligence but he does his best. Many behavioral problems manifest with emotional deficiency. The worst examples are autism, schizophrenia. Other examples are antisocial personality disorder, paranoid and schizoid PDs. Symptoms of Antisocial PD are 1. disregard for the rights of others 2. aggressiveness 3.lack of remorse 4. deceitfulness 5. they do not understand what is right or wrong 6. difficulty to have LTRs
sweetjasmine Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 Alot of women like men who disrespect them, for whatever reason. Yes, a lot of broken people with psychological problems like being abused and are willing to stay in dysfunctional relationships with people who don't respect them. I'm tired of people writing "women like X" or "men like Y" when the difference isn't in gender but in whether people have psychological issues.
Woggle Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 So then turnabout is fair play, and if a woman was burned, it is alright for her to talk endless crap about the entire male gender, and use them for their money and their cock? I think not. The ends do NOT justify the means. We all have an opportunity, I think, when horrible stuff happens to us - to either rise above it and be a better person, or to marinate on the negativity in our past and become bitter and nasty and hung up on emotional baggage. It is in the end the choices we make, how we live our lives, and whether we choose on a constant, conscious basis to be BETTER than our past might make is - that is the path towards self respect. Otherwise you allow what someone else did to you to control your life, for the rest of your life, and you become stagnate, and eventually you go insane. I never said it was right but most players I know who have a real hatred for women have had their share of drama at the hands of the female gender.
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