TheBigQuestion Posted April 5, 2010 Posted April 5, 2010 I'll just briefly reiterate what I said a few days back. Women can get sex easily regardless of appearance or personality. Guys generally cannot. Until this evens out, the double standard will remain. The rest of the stuff mentioned in this thread is unnecessary once you let that single fact sink in.
Disillusioned Posted April 5, 2010 Posted April 5, 2010 I'll just briefly reiterate what I said a few days back. Women can get sex easily regardless of appearance or personality. Guys generally cannot. Until this evens out, the double standard will remain. The rest of the stuff mentioned in this thread is unnecessary once you let that single fact sink in. Do we really WANT a world where men have to skulk along like vermin in order to avoid getting drop-tackled by horny women? It sounds like a funny movie, but IRL it would get boring fast.
TheBigQuestion Posted April 6, 2010 Posted April 6, 2010 Do we really WANT a world where men have to skulk along like vermin in order to avoid getting drop-tackled by horny women? It sounds like a funny movie, but IRL it would get boring fast. It's either that or the double standard. I'm fine with the status quo honestly.
donnamaybe Posted April 6, 2010 Posted April 6, 2010 I'll just briefly reiterate what I said a few days back. Women can get sex easily regardless of appearance or personality. Guys generally cannot. Until this evens out, the double standard will remain. The rest of the stuff mentioned in this thread is unnecessary once you let that single fact sink in. So what you're saying, then, is that men have no self control, and women hold all the cards. Therefore, the men are bitter and have to get SOME kind of satisfaction, so they denigrate women who get more sex than they do.
Jersey Shortie Posted April 6, 2010 Posted April 6, 2010 Yeah, I love the posts where men say they have no part in anything and it's all the womins! Get a grip and step into reality fellas. By the way, women like sex. We love it. We know certain men are better lovers then others and any name calling isn't going to stop women from exploring their options. Viva La Women!
sally4sara Posted April 6, 2010 Posted April 6, 2010 It's either that or the double standard. I'm fine with the status quo honestly. Of course you are. Men don't currently drop tackle women. Thinking that the double standard removed would result in women drop tackling men is just a histrionic reaction to the idea of loosing that lovely perk of being able to look down on others for what you believe is a merit in your self. The world would not end. The sun would not go black. And frankly, I haven't really concerned myself with what others would think as I live my sexuality the way I want. This isn't high school. Women having sex when they want with who they want isn't illegal. The double standard only has power if you give it power. Its like getting upset because someone called you a doodoo head. Big whoop! There is a woman in my social group who does get around more than typical and with several fellas. She is not secretive about it - calls them her state side husbands. No one insults her to her face or behind her back - no one cares.
donnamaybe Posted April 6, 2010 Posted April 6, 2010 There is a woman in my social group who does get around more than typical and with several fellas. She is not secretive about it - calls them her state side husbands. No one insults her to her face or behind her back - no one cares. So, basically, your circle of friends doesn't include people whose knuckles drag when they walk?
sally4sara Posted April 6, 2010 Posted April 6, 2010 So, basically, your circle of friends doesn't include people whose knuckles drag when they walk? I haven't noticed anyone like that. Altho I think if we had some knuckle draggers, they would raise their arms around me. I instill respectful terror without even trying.
blind_otter Posted April 6, 2010 Posted April 6, 2010 I like to say "Chicks before dicks" nowadays. It is true, if you allow men to think that they are idolized for numerous one night conequests, they will continue to puff and strut like roosters, and jockey for position like dogs in a pack. As with any purchase you make, what you buy has an effect of what is available. I still say that sexually, the best men are those who have had longterm relationships. They just know what to do so much better than men who have had a lot of brief affairs...
sally4sara Posted April 6, 2010 Posted April 6, 2010 I like to say "Chicks before dicks" nowadays. It is true, if you allow men to think that they are idolized for numerous one night conequests, they will continue to puff and strut like roosters, and jockey for position like dogs in a pack. As with any purchase you make, what you buy has an effect of what is available. I still say that sexually, the best men are those who have had longterm relationships. They just know what to do so much better than men who have had a lot of brief affairs... Oh JEEZ! So true! A guy who has been with a woman for a long period of time has developed skills. A guy who does nothing but flit from one to the next only ever learns to find the hole.
donnamaybe Posted April 6, 2010 Posted April 6, 2010 Oh JEEZ! So true! A guy who has been with a woman for a long period of time has developed skills. A guy who does nothing but flit from one to the next only ever learns to find the hole. Yup. These guys who value themselves based on how many women they screw don't bother worrying about anyone's pleasure but their own.
blind_otter Posted April 6, 2010 Posted April 6, 2010 Yup. These guys who value themselves based on how many women they screw don't bother worrying about anyone's pleasure but their own. When I think about all the bad sex I had when I was in my 20s...well I'm just glad it's over now.
TheBigQuestion Posted April 6, 2010 Posted April 6, 2010 So what you're saying, then, is that men have no self control, and women hold all the cards. Therefore, the men are bitter and have to get SOME kind of satisfaction, so they denigrate women who get more sex than they do. Sort of. Whenever I've felt inclined to invoke the double standard (which is not often, as I'm actually more comfortable with female sexuality than most guys I know), it was not done out of "jealousy" of women who get more than I do. The way our current culture exists, it's just a fact that men have to go through more effort, whether it's developing lots of charm, accumulating wealth, and/or being far more "interesting" than the norm in order to attract large amounts of women. One or more of these qualities has to be taken to an even higher degree if you want a majority of these women to be attractive. So in a way, you're right when you say that women hold all the cards. It's women who do the choosing because women usually have more prospects than men do. This leads to the main reason why I believe the double standard exists: guys simply have a harder time attracting and bedding lots of women, and it's through no fault of their own. Nor is it the fault of women. It's simply how these things came to be. So therefore, a woman who is sleeping with tons of guys is not necessarily either commendable or condemnable, but you can't deny if certain men are able to sleep with lots of women, there's a lot more effort involved. This IS commendable. Guys generally do the majority of the approaching, and women are the ones who either accept or deny the approach. Of course you hold the cards:)
TheBigQuestion Posted April 6, 2010 Posted April 6, 2010 I like to say "Chicks before dicks" nowadays. It is true, if you allow men to think that they are idolized for numerous one night conequests, they will continue to puff and strut like roosters, and jockey for position like dogs in a pack. As with any purchase you make, what you buy has an effect of what is available. I still say that sexually, the best men are those who have had longterm relationships. They just know what to do so much better than men who have had a lot of brief affairs... Long-term has been my thing, so I guess I'm golden:p
donnamaybe Posted April 6, 2010 Posted April 6, 2010 But I'm betting the ones who do the name calling are either the ones who can't get laid, or the ones who get laid all the time but don't put in any effort whatsoever, i.e. total -----bags anyway.
LynnM28 Posted April 6, 2010 Posted April 6, 2010 Just my own personal opinion, I do not ``judge`` a man or a woman for their past sexual behaviors, everyone deals with different situations and it`s part of what makes them who they are in the present, and if I like the person they are in the present, than I accept that everything in their past played a role in getting them there. That all said, I also would never look dis-favorably on a man for limited experience, my husband was raised that sex was for within marriage, and that is how he has lived his life, and that part of him was honestly very attractive to me when we began dating.
donnamaybe Posted April 6, 2010 Posted April 6, 2010 Just my own personal opinion, I do not ``judge`` a man or a woman for their past sexual behaviors, everyone deals with different situations and it`s part of what makes them who they are in the present, and if I like the person they are in the present, than I accept that everything in their past played a role in getting them there. That all said, I also would never look dis-favorably on a man for limited experience, my husband was raised that sex was for within marriage, and that is how he has lived his life, and that part of him was honestly very attractive to me when we began dating. Beautiful.
TheBigQuestion Posted April 6, 2010 Posted April 6, 2010 But I'm betting the ones who do the name calling are either the ones who can't get laid, or the ones who get laid all the time but don't put in any effort whatsoever, i.e. total -----bags anyway. Hmm I don't know about this. I've known guys who CAN get laid but who don't necessarily get laid all the time who have done a bit of name-calling. To be fair to them, however, the name-calling is usually limited to especially egregious examples, i.e. the one girl I knew who sucked off 5 guys in a two-day period and was openly soliciting more.
donnamaybe Posted April 6, 2010 Posted April 6, 2010 Hmm I don't know about this. I've known guys who CAN get laid but who don't necessarily get laid all the time who have done a bit of name-calling. To be fair to them, however, the name-calling is usually limited to especially egregious examples, i.e. the one girl I knew who sucked off 5 guys in a two-day period and was openly soliciting more. But, see, in my mind a gal like that is to be pitied, not denigrated. She obviously has some emotional problems. Apparently, some guys would choose to take advantage rather than show a little sympathy. THEY deserve the name calling MUCH more than the gal, IMO.
MrNate Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Why is this thread still alive? Women have the right to be promiscuous and men have the right to be selective. Men have the right to be promiscuous and women have the right to be selective. Obviously promiscuity isn't smiled upon too much by either sex. If one's views of sexuality doesn't line up with another's, or becomes an issue when in a relationship, instead of accusing one or the other of being 'insecure' or 'slutty' what have you, maybe we can try to understand that everyone views sexuality differently. If you have a past, and you think it'll be an issue, get with someone who can relate or doesn't care. Why waste time with someone who views that subject differently than you? Let alone wait months/years to talk about it? So let's chill out with all the name calling: Women=sluts, Men=insecure. And let's start respecting each other and communicating. Two clear, imortant things that women and men are lacking these days, which requires both parties to work.
lino Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Women have the right to be promiscuous and men have the right to be selective. Men have the right to be promiscuous and women have the right to be selective. Very well said. Obviously promiscuity isn't smiled upon too much by either sex. Disagree. Male promiscuity isn't looked down on at all, by the majority either gender.
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