sagetalk Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 Both of the women you mentioned date nothing but younger men. Yes, but they are extremely attractive for their ages (or any age period for that matter) so they can get away with it. Most women their age could not pull that off. Since they have the ability to pick whomever they wish, they still choose bad guys, even at an older, wiser age. It says alot, at least to me.
boogieboy Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 I want to ask you something. If all women were to sleep with only one man; what would men do? Where would men get experience if all women were virtuous? HAHA! :lmao::lmao: What a great pipe dream. You missed the point, but ok. If all women were virtuous, guys would have no choice but to either learn to blow off sexual urges and marry the first woman they want to sleep with... Or some scientist would be a billionaire from mass producing a portable vagina machine. or both....
blind_otter Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 Jennifer Aniston and Sandra Bullock, both are well above 26 and both got burned by obvious bad boys. I admit as women age they tend to like them less, but it is also possible that those guys are chasing younger women and these can't get them anymore. It isn't a matter of age. Anyone can be emotionally immature at any age. Statistically it is less likely as people advance in age chronologically; using two people who are involved in careers that tend to attract histrionic personality types isn't probably the best example of that age bracket. I'm just saying. But I do know that most women who have waded through the cesspool of reality have no patience or tolerance for this kind of nonsense, and they will get the urge to stab men like this in the eye with a rusty spoon. But they will refrain, and just shut down the interaction instead, because no one wants to catch a case now do they?
Woggle Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 I don't want a woman to be a virgin but I do want a woman that has some standards and self control because I know I do. Women on an average tend to like strength and alpha qualities in men while men tend to be drawn to sweetness and demure qualities in women. This might sound sexist but women are just as bad when they chase after the alphas. Women can complain about the double standards all they want but until they are ready to go for the nerdy and sensitive guys who only have sex with the one they love they are sounding a bit hypocritical.
Twenty-ten Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 HAHA! :lmao::lmao: What a great pipe dream. You missed the point, but ok. If all women were virtuous, guys would have no choice but to either learn to blow off sexual urges and marry the first woman they want to sleep with... Or some scientist would be a billionaire from mass producing a portable vagina machine. or both.... No, in fact I think she nailed it! It's fine to editorialize her question but in the least it deserves an answer. Do you dare to answer her question? Good job on the observation Stillafool! By the way boogie, FYI fake vaginas, female dolls, vaginal machines, and the like already exist in abundance. What does that tell you about your theory? Personally, male promiscuity is as big a turn off.
D-Lish Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 A hot virgin girl trumps a hot non-virgin girl any day of the week . Deal with that 10 years into a marriage where the "once virgin" carries on the sexual hang-ups, and can't get past the religious guilt, to the point where once sex for pro-creation is done- she goes dormant on your horny ass.
Author Johnny M Posted March 31, 2010 Author Posted March 31, 2010 I'm going to treat this as a non-troll post for the moment and say that I find myself very attracted to "sluts." However, I'm probably not the norm. That's because you are probably only interested in sex with no strings attached (in which case you are right to be attracted to sluts - they take far less effort). I was talking more about serious relationships. Who wants to marry and have children with a slut?
Twenty-ten Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 I think all extremes are bad, D-lish raised an excellent point as well. The only person who would be attracted to another virgin is someone who feels a level of sexual inadequacy themselves. I would not want to be with a virgin man at this point in my life (sorry to all the virgins out there) but on the same token a highly promiscuous man is equally as undesirable (sorry to all the strumpetty men out there :-P).
sagetalk Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 Deal with that 10 years into a marriage where the "once virgin" carries on the sexual hang-ups, and can't get past the religious guilt, to the point where once sex for pro-creation is done- she goes dormant on your horny ass. That's a lame stereotype, virgins and non-virgins can have sexual hangups equally. It has no relevance. I've known plenty of virgin girls and I seriously doubt they would go dormant after marriage. I would also say they would be much less likely to use sex as a means of control (one of the lamest things a women can do), since they never used it that way when dating. If her going dormant is the worst thing I'd have to deal with, I'm in. I'm pretty sure I could convince her otherwise . On the other hand, STD's, past sexual partners, and past abortions never go away no matter how much we both wish they did.
Twenty-ten Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 If her going dormant is the worst thing I'd have to deal with, I'm in. I'm pretty sure I could convince her otherwise . Oh my, that is such an innocent outlook on the repercussions of sexual disfunction in a relationship. If life were only that simple.... Many sexless men can prove to you that it is SO not as simple as "I will just convince her otherwise"
Author Johnny M Posted March 31, 2010 Author Posted March 31, 2010 (edited) Oh my, that is such an innocent outlook on the repercussions of sexual disfunction in a relationship. If life were only that simple.... Many sexless men can prove to you that it is SO not as simple as "I will just convince her otherwise" Last time I checked, all women were virgins at some point. So I don't really see how marrying a virgin would automatically result in a sexless marriage. But in any event, this thread is not about virgins. No one suggested that men are only interested in marrying virgins, or that women should not have sex before marriage, so no need to derail the thread by dealing with the extremes. A promiscuous woman is not any woman who has sex before marriage. Rather, it's someone who has lots of one night stands and possesses the whole "girls just like to have fun" mentality in her teens and 20s. I mean, who wants a party girl who has slept with half of her college football team to be the mother of their children? What kind of values can a woman like that impart on your offspring? Edited March 31, 2010 by Johnny M
minniezz Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 Well, i think men are often the conquerors and women are the ones who are being conquered. And thats why we have this topic
Author Johnny M Posted March 31, 2010 Author Posted March 31, 2010 The OP was too vague.. said "attracted to," NOT "consider for marriage material." Women who are good marriage material are also good mother material and men are genetically wired to be attracted to women like that (even if they are not looking for anything serious).
sweetjasmine Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 I would not want to be with a virgin man at this point in my life (sorry to all the virgins out there) but on the same token a highly promiscuous man is equally as undesirable (sorry to all the strumpetty men out there :-P). Same for me. Man-sluts are not attractive. I go for people who aren't into one-night stands and only enjoy sex with those they care about because that's what I'm like.
Twenty-ten Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 Last time I checked, all women were virgins at some point. So I don't really see how marrying a virgin would automatically result in a sexless marriage. But in any event, this thread is not about virgins. No one suggested that men are only interested in marrying virgins, or that women should not have sex before marriage, so no need to derail the thread by dealing with the extremes. Fine but she brought up a valid point when she introduced the notion that if all women slept with the same guy where would that leave men and their sexual urges? I never said "exclusively" that a virgin will withhold sex later in marriage or result in a form of sexual dysfunction, I simply agreed with the point being introduced as happening. It does make you wonder just how sexual someone who had a lot of sexual hangups leading to marriage would have while in marriage. That's all. A promiscuous woman is not any woman who has sex before marriage. Rather, it's someone who has lots of one night stands and possesses the whole "girls just like to have fun" mentality in her teens and 20s. Would a woman who has been in exclusive relationships and never had one night stands but had plenty of unprotected sex within a relationship and had threesomes and other forms of promiscuous sex within a relationship be more, less or equally promiscuous as a woman who had a string of one night stands? I am just curious... I mean, who wants a party girl who has slept with half of her college football team to be the mother of their children? What kind of values can a woman like that impart on your offspring? Oh I dunnow, men make alright dads if hey have slept around a lot. Why can't women make good enough moms? What does being sexually promiscuous have to do with parenting skills? Same values a slutty man can bring to the table. Honestly I think it's just a question of ego, one that most men simply cannot overcome. Perhaps it's the assumption that promiscuous people will make poor partners because they will have a propensity to cheat needing more sexual satisfaction from variety...
Woggle Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 Same for me. Man-sluts are not attractive. I go for people who aren't into one-night stands and only enjoy sex with those they care about because that's what I'm like. So many women say that but how many truly practice it? Maybe you are one of the exceptions.
Twenty-ten Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 that was supposed to say: Perhaps it's the assumption that promiscuous people will not make poor partners because they will have a propensity to cheat needing more sexual satisfaction from variety...
Woggle Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 I don't know if women who sleep around are more likely to cheat but many tend to have feminist attitudes and have the let's beat men at their own game mentality. They view cheating as their right because it is not time to treat men the way they were treated. I hear this attitude everyday at work and I don't blame men one bit for wanting to avoid it.
sweetjasmine Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 So many women say that but how many truly practice it? Maybe you are one of the exceptions. I don't know how many. A lot of my female friends feel the same way and their actions match what they say. *shrug* My current SO isn't a one-night stand type of person, and he straight-up told me in the beginning of our relationship that he wanted to take it slow (and luckily so did I ).
Twenty-ten Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 RE the previous post I corrected: never mind...I'm on crack tonight sorry for the interruption I can't even read my own writing... so sorry for the posts.... I had the post right the first time please disregard that last post correction...
Woggle Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 I don't know how many. A lot of my female friends feel the same way and their actions match what they say. *shrug* My current SO isn't a one-night stand type of person, and he straight-up told me in the beginning of our relationship that he wanted to take it slow (and luckily so did I ). That's funny since in my world it is the players getting all the action.
Twenty-ten Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 I don't know if women who sleep around are more likely to cheat but many tend to have feminist attitudes and have the let's beat men at their own game mentality. They view cheating as their right because it is not time to treat men the way they were treated. I hear this attitude everyday at work and I don't blame men one bit for wanting to avoid it. Yes I don't know if women do it to even the score, I don't know that women go out intentionally to get laid simply to "stick it to men" I mean that seems too much like premeditated work when the simple fact is sex feels good and that is why people have sex. But intentional or not by proxy of modern women's actions it does even the playing field a bit with men and it does give men a sense that it is not so one sided anymore. Would you disagree with that?
Woggle Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 Yes I don't know if women do it to even the score, I don't know that women go out intentionally to get laid simply to "stick it to men" I mean that seems too much like premeditated work when the simple fact is sex feels good and that is why people have sex. But intentional or not by proxy of modern women's actions it does even the playing field a bit with men and it does give men a sense that it is not so one sided anymore. Would you disagree with that? Maybe so but I do not want to be a part of some gender war. I simply want a good woman in my life who I can trust? Are men so wrong for feeling this way or is it our just desserts to be betrayed? Be honest with how you feel.
Twenty-ten Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 (edited) Maybe so but I do not want to be a part of some gender war. I simply want a good woman in my life who I can trust? Are men so wrong for feeling this way or is it our just desserts to be betrayed? Be honest with how you feel. There is absolutely nothing wrong with what you desire, a lot of people desire the exact same thing. The gender war exists because there a lot of people from both genders stuck in the corssfire of the changes that have revolutionized female sexuality. Females still feel oppressed to express themselves sexually on a moral level, they do it anyway but they feel guilt and shame often associated with being "too easy" or for being perceived as such. Why is that? Instead of trying to one up women who want to be sexually open why can't men just embrace it? After all I thought a lot of guys mostly aim to get laid anyways...ok I am oversimplifying men a bit but am I really? I mean how many men go out with a woman to have a relationship? I would think sex is on the forefront of their goals, a relationship is something that happens by accident for some and as a bonus for others. Am I really off the mark in saying that? I missed your question, NO it's not just desserts to be betrayed no one should aim to betray anyone that is considered sociopathic behaviour if you do set that as a goal. Edited March 31, 2010 by Twenty-ten
Woggle Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 You say there is nothing wrong with desiring it but then at the same time men are demonized and called sexist for doing our best to try to better the odds. We know what kind of women are more likely to be faithful and which ones will cheat without remorse and we act accordingly. You are over simplifying men and many men don't just want one sexual conquest after the other but those men are not the type that women desire. Despite all the assertions to the contrary I know what kind of men do the best with women. I would not blame women one bit for shunning players but they don't. Men actually get it right in the sense that we know female players are not good relationship material so we dont want anything with them but a thrill.
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