calizaggy Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 This thread is a good exampe of what happens when women pursue men.. I disagree with Nick, as 4 dates in 2.5 months is not much at all. When a man likes a woman he wants to see her MUCH MORE than that. He makes time..Or, he atleast contacts her daily.. So, she is pursuing him.. The result from him ? "Ok, come over".. This man has little interest in this girl, other than a possible sex option. Ladies, leave the pursuing to men,or else you will never really know his intentions. if a woman pursues me I am thinking "easy sex", and I might not feel she is worth contacting or dating outside of trying to get her into bed. Once bedding her I might continue using her for her body for sex, or I might go my seperate way.. Those are my rights, but she set herself up by being the pursuer..
pureinheart Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 Yes, I didn't like that either. OP, everyone on LS has made mistakes, most far worse than anything you have described here. You've been a really good sport in handling the criticism. I hope you get the guy and I hope he is looking for the same type of relationship you are. Ditto...me being the first....lol.... I personally stick with the "old fashioned" ways...trust me, you will get what you want out of the R if you DON'T have sex with him...he can get that ANYWHERE....I don't care what most of the guys say....don't have sex with him and he will take you home to meet mom....
pureinheart Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 I think a lot of people here are being way too hard on you. So, you are young, you really, really like a guy, and you get a little carried away in the moment, and then pull the plug. SO WHAT? Blue balls -OMG! The world may end! All guys wank off anyway after dates that don't end in sex, so what is the big deal? So what if you were a tease! Many guys string women along making them feel like they want a relationship when they just want sex, and then dump them without ever so much as a call afterwards. That is the reality out there and that is teasing on a much more CRUEL level. I think you are being too eager and explanatory with this guy, showing way too much of your hand way too soon in this relationship, as all women do when they are young. Carhill has a great line, that the person who cares the most holds all the power, and your being all over him made it clear to him that HE holds all the cards. You say you don't want him to think you are using him for dates, but you don't know, he could be using YOU just to get SEX. Doesn't matter that he asked you out, made dinner, you don't know him well enough to know his motives. Plenty of guys play the hunting game for a number of dates, then score and run. It is ridiculous that some guys here think just because a guy takes a girl to dinners, etc, he deserves a sexual favor. Hmm, sex for money, oh, right that is called PROSTITUTION. Here's another thing, that I am surprised more people didn't bring up. To me it is a GIGANTIC red flag that he takes you to his bedroom when all his roommates are there-is that what happened? So your first time together would have been with his roommates in the next room...? What if you had slept with him? Do they all line up at the door and ask him how you were? That was a BAD situation. You need to go with what your subconscious has been screaming at you: you like him A LOT and you are AFRAID of getting hurt because you are correct, YOU DO NOT KNOW HIS TRUE INTENTIONS. Don't try to have "the talk" with him. Let him prove by his actions whether he wants a relationship or not. That takes TIME. Don't apologize, don't explain, don't fawn over him. Pull back, keep your emotions in check and and don't show any more of your cards til he shows whether he wants a true relationship with you, because that is what you want. I was like you when I was young. TOO NICE.. Be cooler with everyone, girlfriends included before you really really know someone. Much better to be that way, you get hurt a lot less, and the curious thing is, everyone likes you BETTER when you do that. Never be a sure or easy thing for ANYONE.... Excellent reply...hey, guys come and go...self respect needs to stay...
calizaggy Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 Ditto...me being the first....lol.... I personally stick with the "old fashioned" ways...trust me, you will get what you want out of the R if you DON'T have sex with him...he can get that ANYWHERE....I don't care what most of the guys say....don't have sex with him and he will take you home to meet mom.... That's true if the guy feels she is "the one".. If this girl has sex, or doesn't have sex, either way she is not "the one". Women cannot use sex to manipulate a man into loving them. Dating is easy for women.. CNN just had a study about how much larger the "pursuit" seciton of the male brain is, coupled with 2.5 times more testosterone.. If he is NOT pursuing you, he DOES NOT WANT YOU. If you pursue him, at most you will get some sex..
homersheineken Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 Well look who's the stubborn one... accusing her of being a tease when she's not. Yeah this post makes as much sense as showering in a sewer.
homersheineken Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 What are you talking about?? Getting naked and jumping into a guy's bed only to tell him that she is not ready is not considered being a tease??? Which planet are you from? I know right
troggleputty Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 Ditto...me being the first....lol.... I personally stick with the "old fashioned" ways...trust me, you will get what you want out of the R if you DON'T have sex with him...he can get that ANYWHERE....I don't care what most of the guys say....don't have sex with him and he will take you home to meet mom.... But, this assumes that what she wants out of the R is not to have sex with the guy. (The first post indicated that she did want to have sex with him.) Look, if she does not want to have sex with him, she shouldn't have sex with him. Period. It seems like a lot of people in the thread are advising that her willingness to have sex with him should be a "quid pro quo" for something else. What? They should have a "relationship" first? O.K. fine. Then she needs to communicate with him about that in a very direct manner. As in: "I really like you but this was getting physical too fast for me. We need to slow it way down and just get to know each other a whole lot better."
stillafool Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 This thread is a good exampe of what happens when women pursue men.. I disagree with Nick, as 4 dates in 2.5 months is not much at all. When a man likes a woman he wants to see her MUCH MORE than that. He makes time..Or, he atleast contacts her daily.. So, she is pursuing him.. The result from him ? "Ok, come over".. This man has little interest in this girl, other than a possible sex option. Ladies, leave the pursuing to men,or else you will never really know his intentions. if a woman pursues me I am thinking "easy sex", and I might not feel she is worth contacting or dating outside of trying to get her into bed. Once bedding her I might continue using her for her body for sex, or I might go my seperate way.. Those are my rights, but she set herself up by being the pursuer.. She is trying to leave the pursuing to him, but he won't pursue.
carhill Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 Well, if he's really working 7 days a week, 12 hours a day (84 hours a week, or half of any given total block of time), it sounds to me like a lot of pursuing is going on (work), just little in the romantic department. IMO, this is a definition for someone who is not relationship material, at least not on any consistent basis. Their contact seems to bear this out. Snippets here and there as he can 'fit it in'. Is his unavailability (and commensurate lack of proactive interest/pursuit) part of the lure? That's people-picker stuff. Hope it works out
Author marsle85 Posted March 27, 2010 Author Posted March 27, 2010 Well. He didn't respond. It sucks. Because I actually feel like I pushed him away. I shouldn't have gotten nearly naked- because honestly, he didn't harbor those expectations for me in the beginning. I should have finished him off, or did SOMETHING for him. I can't BELIEVE after that I ended up texting him in sum, THREE TIMES after that! THREE! I've NEVER done that with him, I played all of my cards too soon. And I don't even know if i'm glad I sent the horsebackriding invitation, because now any lingering feelings that he could choose to utilize are extinguished because he knows he never responded to my first invitation. I made the situation daunting and difficult, when it should have been enjoyable and easy. So, I took him out of my phone (incase I'm struck by any other forms of insanity). I need to let this go, but it sucks. This guy seemed like the real deal, and my inexperience and fear created more struggle for an early, budding relationship. I regret a LOT. I wish I would have waited, for everything. :( But I did learn from this. Ugh. I'm exhausted! Dating is not easy. He seemed so good. I know i'm coming off as pathetic/whatnot. Please spare me any harsh criticism. If you have something proactive or helpful to reflect on what i've learned, please share. I'm just bummed with myself and regretful and I would appreciate sincerity.
sweetjasmine Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 I should have finished him off, or did SOMETHING for him. To be honest, I don't think that would've changed things. How would you have felt if you did that and he still didn't respond to your texts afterwards? He seemed so good. Read carhill's post directly above yours. I'm sorry you're feeling bummed out about this guy. But at the very least, it's a learning experience, y'know? Don't be too hard on yourself.
Kamille Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 You're being too hard on yourself! And you sent the horsback invitation at the most two days ago, so, give him time to answer. I think the biggest thing that's happening is that you're really into this guy, so you're reading into everything he does (or doesn't) do. You would like him to reciprocate the same level of interests and feel disapointed that he doesn't. But, you know what, that doesn't actually mean he isn't at least a bit interested. It just means you're way ahead of him in the interest department. It means this relationship, as it is now, is unbalanced. And I know from experience that isn't a comfortable place to be. But as to whether or not you should have "finished him off" the answer is "you have no obligation to finish anyone off". I'm part of the team who thinks you unwittingly sent mixed signals, but in that team, I'm on the side of those who think : it isn't a big deal, and certainly doesn't qualify as "deal-breaker" material. If this guy is worth your time, he will understand (and this guy has said he understood if memory serves right). I also agree you cannot make someone fall in love with you, certainly not by granting sexual favors. Sex and sexual favors do not make a man fall in love with you. Knowing, respecting and enforcing your own boundaries does. Having sex when you want to because YOU want to is part of knowing and enforcing your boundaries. So don't be so harsh on yourself. If there is a lesson to be learned here it isn't that you should have "finished him off" but that until you know you're ready to sleep with a guy, you should stay out of his bedroom. It avoids all this confusion, both for you and him. Simply strive to get some balance back and stop worrying about this. Forgive yourself for making mistakes, hit the gym, go out with friends, think about something else. Let him go and stop analysing this and trying to figure it out. If this guy is interested, he knows where to find you.
amymarieca Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 -This is stupid. I'm not lying. -I was NOT going to have the first time I have sex with him, be while I was on my period. You have got to be kidding. -You don't get it. I WANTED TO HAVE SEX with him, I wish we HAD. I like this guy, and I want the opposite to be true. I wish our night had worked out better. I don't want to be posting about this right now. I made out with him and INCREASED the sexual activity because I wanted him to know that I wasn't at some sort of stand-still and he could expect me to be open with him. I know this doesn't make sense to you, but I figured this would be of more enjoyment than shutting myself off completely. Jesus. I will -not- make this mistake again, that is for sure. Marsle, I don't think you did anything wrong. When I was twenty I didn't know how to bring up the fact that I was on my period either! You may have wanted to have sex with him, but don't feel like you need to do anything physical just to prove that. You'd be surprised at how many guys want to just fool around the first time so they can get comfortable with the person. I say just wait it out, and if he doesn't want to see you again because of what happened, then he is just being silly.
Author marsle85 Posted March 27, 2010 Author Posted March 27, 2010 Simply strive to get some balance back and stop worrying about this. Forgive yourself for making mistakes, hit the gym, go out with friends, think about something else. Let him go and stop analysing this and trying to figure it out. If this guy is interested, he knows where to find you. Thanks so much, your comments have been insightful and endearing. That goes to everyone - I may have been pulling my hair out reading page after page (+13!) but I've received a HUGE array of opinions and posts that have shed a lot of light on the matter, and my love life as a whole. I appreciate those who have jumped on from my previous thread "Make dinner for you...AKA booty call?" and continued to keep up with the progression 185 posts later. Regardless of whether I disagree with the advice given or not, the consistent response from a multitude of people have reflected beautifully on Loveshack. As a new member, I'm gracious and thank everyone for their time and effort!
CarrieT Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 Marsle, what if you had HAD sex and now he didn't respond? How would you feel now? You would have been that much more invested in something after three dates and sex and to him, you would have been another notch on his bedpost. Count your blessings that you didn't have sex. If he was the "real deal" than not having sex so early in the relationship would mean nothing. He would still be around and responding and the fact that he is not, should tell you a LOT. And having sex with a guy that early on would have only possibly guaranteed his continual interest BECAUSE of the sex and not because of YOU. This has been very telling, I think, and you should be extremely grateful it turned out the way it has.
carhill Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 I may have been pulling my hair out reading page after page (+13!) Tip: In the "options" area of your profile, go down to "thread display options" and set the 'number of posts per page' to 40. Makes the novels easier to read So, what's up for this fine weekend?
sagetalk Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 1. Because I actually feel like I pushed him away. 2.I should have finished him off, or did SOMETHING for him. 3. But I did learn from this. Ugh. I'm exhausted! Dating is not easy. He seemed so good. 4. I know i'm coming off as pathetic/whatnot. Please spare me any harsh criticism. If you have something proactive or helpful to reflect on what i've learned, please share. 1. You didn't, it has nothing to do with that. 2. No, being sexual with a guy has nothing to do with starting a solid relationship. 3. What did you learn? I'm curious to know. As you have been honest in your behavior in this post, I will be honest with you in my feelings. It seems to me that you have a low self esteem, and this is very dangerous for you to hold on to. I don't know you or what has happened in your life, but I know for certain that you are far more valuable than you realize. Throwing yourself at men sexually will not generate a healthy relationship, it will mostly lead to men devaluing you. Do not be afraid of him rejecting you for who you are. Sex should be an expression of passion with someone who loves you for who you are. Never use it as a strategy to get a guy to like you more. In my opinion 4 dates is way too early to be naked in his bed if you want a long lasting relationship. Save sex for when you know that he's into you, and not just into having sex with you. That point could not be emphasized enough. 4. I've no desire to mock you, only to let you know that you deserve a man that will be honest, faithful, trustworthy, and give you the commitment that you deserve. Putting yourself in a position where you are naked in his bed on the 4th date is not a good way to find that. More than likely this guy will get in touch with you again, but it may be just to have sex and nothing more. My advice is to not have sex with him when he gets up with you again. If he never contacts you after that, then you know where his heart was.a If all you want is sex, than you may ignore my advice. But if you want something that will last, then apply it to your life.
troggleputty Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 Well. He didn't respond. It sucks. Look, maybe he has a legitimate reason for not responding. Maybe he doesn't. The point you should be taking away from all this is if he drops the ball and doesn't follow up, it is his loss--not yours. All you can do then, is move on. Because I actually feel like I pushed him away. Not at all. I don't see why you're blaming yourself for pushing him away when actually you've been quite friendly to him in various ways. You're trying to find "reasons" why he has not called you back etc. The simplest reason would be "he's just not that into you." Fine. Move on to someone who appreciates you as you should be appreciated. I shouldn't have gotten nearly naked- because honestly, he didn't harbor those expectations for me in the beginning. Again I disagree, you're just second-guessing yourself. You actually had a very nice time on that date. You expressed your sexuality maybe a little more than you had intended but you put the brakes on when things were getting out of hand. You did nothing "wrong." I should have finished him off, or did SOMETHING for him. No you don't have to do anything sexually that you don't feel comfortable with. But the point is he's also not wrong for thinking things are headed in that direction. That's why you have to clearly communicate your expectations to him if ever given another chance to do so. But to do that, you first have to figure out what your expectations are. It doesn't sound like you've done that yet which is not surprising as you're only 20 years old. I can't BELIEVE after that I ended up texting him in sum, THREE TIMES after that! THREE! I've NEVER done that with him, I played all of my cards too soon. I thought three was lucky. And I don't even know if i'm glad I sent the horsebackriding invitation, because now any lingering feelings that he could choose to utilize are extinguished because he knows he never responded to my first invitation. This is total overthink. Look, the point of your sending the horseback riding invitation wasn't really to go horseback riding, was it? It was to let him know that you were still interested in him. Obviously if he gets back to you but doesn't want to go horseback riding, instead wants to do something else, would you say "No--it MUST be horseback riding!" I made the situation daunting and difficult, when it should have been enjoyable and easy. No you didn't, but after the fact, your brain is neurotically making everything way too difficult, for yourself. Either he's interested in you or he's not. Either he has time to respond to you or he doesn't. Either you're willing to wait around by the cell phone on pins and needles for him to respond or you're not. I suggest forget this guy for the time being and don't read anything into it. If he gets back to you at some point in the future and you're still interested in him then just roll with that. You're acting like this guy is the last guy on planet earth or something. You have to be kidding me. If you look anything like your avatar you could walk into any bar and have ten guys eating out of your hand in 15 minutes. Dating is supposed to be fun, not stressful. Relationships are supposed to be fun, not stressful (at least at the beginning LOL). If for WHATEVER REASON AT ALL you are already feeling "uncomfortable" with this guy, then just "move on." It doesn't mean you did anything wrong or that he did anything wrong. The two of you just didn't "click" the right way. So, I took him out of my phone (incase I'm struck by any other forms of insanity). I need to let this go, but it sucks. This guy seemed like the real deal, and my inexperience and fear created more struggle for an early, budding relationship. I regret a LOT. I wish I would have waited, for everything. :( It doesn't really sound like you are "ready" to be exclusive frankly. You need to date around a little bit pretty casually, just have fun, be very careful about getting sexual with any new guys. At some point you will find someone who you are really compatible with and you will KNOW it. You won't need to agonize over whether every little thing you do or don't do is "right" or "wrong." I mean think about it: what kind of a "relationship" could it be if the mere act of sending the guy a few txts could be percevied by him as somehow inappropriate or off-putting? If this guy really liked you a lot he would be jumping on those txts and you would have heard back from him right away. Also, it could be that he has been seeing someone else more seriously than you and might be in the process of extricating himself from the other relationship. Kind of hard to txt you back if he's with a gf, right? But I did learn from this. Ugh. I'm exhausted! Dating is not easy. He seemed so good. He probably seemed good because he is good. But that doesn't mean the two of you will be sufficiently compatible at this point in your lives to mesh into a workable relationship. That could be for any number of reasons which are not a negative reflection on you, nor on him. The timing may be wrong. Like I said--if he's as attractive as you say he probably is at least juggling one other woman with you, maybe he's even a multi-dater. I mean how would you know anyway. I know i'm coming off as pathetic/whatnot. Please spare me any harsh criticism. If you have something proactive or helpful to reflect on what i've learned, please share. You're not coming off as pathetic at all. Look you went out on a few dates, there was some intimacy, it felt good, but this dude is not returning your attempts to contact him. If he doesn't want a relationship, for whatever reason that might be, you can't force him to want one. But like I said--that's his loss, not your loss. I'm just bummed with myself and regretful and I would appreciate sincerity. You didn't do anything wrong, you're perfectly normal, go out and have fun, meet some new people, within two weeks you will have forgotten about this dude. Then some time in the future he will come begging to you and you will laugh in his face.
Author marsle85 Posted March 27, 2010 Author Posted March 27, 2010 (edited) I think the issue here is based on the limited romantic experience I do have. Fortunately, my self-esteem isn't really an issue (haha), but now I can apply what I've gathered to future relations. This whole ordeal was actually helpful. :oI have learned: 1. The only "expectations" that exist are your own. People will respond and treat you how you let them treat you. 2. Men view sex differently. I never thought of myself as a tease because I knew my intentions were almost always rooted from the right reason... but that's not how I was being interpreted. Next time, unless I want to have sex- I need to keep my clothes on. 3. Slow DOWN. Great things come with time. There is no rush. Don't show all of your cards. And don't invest so much, so soon! My heart and brain is more valuable than my body... so I need to be careful when I share that, too. 4. The very best people in my life have made considerable efforts to be there. They treat me SO well, and love me consistently. They respect me, appreciate me and I'm allowed to be imperfect: say no, and love openly. It's easy to lose perpective, but I am so fortunate! I'm okay. I'm successful, intuitive and loving. I am so lucky to be ALIVE and healthy. This? This is petty stuff. Ultimately, to not hold tight to someone who is willing to let you go. All of this struggle, investment, thinking and affection should be directed to those who refuse to let me go Because I'm great, and so are all of you. And life and love is complex and daunting, but if romantic love is anything like the honestly, overwhelming and sweet love I share with my friends and family? I'm in. I can wait. Edited March 27, 2010 by marsle85
threebyfate Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 marsle, this thread and the other one, are prime examples of why not to pretzel yourself for a man who has a low interest level. In attempting to position yourself in a way that's appealing to him, you've sent out some major mixed signals, due to internal conflict. Just be yourself and if this doesn't appeal, there are many, many more fish in the ocean. Based on your avatar picture, you're cute, and based on your postings on LS, there's a brain behind that cuteness. So, work to your strengths and you're going to have men flocking, much better than this guy.
St. Nick Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 Aww marsle, I'm so glad you've learned something and you feel special about yourself. Give yourself a big hug. Really. Do it. Start fondling and groping yourself. It will make things better. I hope you've truly learned that the way you view yourself and your actions is not always in tune with how others view you. It's good to have a little humility and realize someone else's point of view could be wiser than your own. Lastly, you don't need to start banging every dude you meet, but you definitely do need experience. I'm not trying to be harsh when I say you're painfully naive on dating/relationships and male/female behavior. You might as well start getting experience now cuz the older you get the fewer chances you'll be able to get. Ask all the older women in their 30s (especially late 30s) or over, for them there are noticeably fewer men who want to chase after them. Many men their age are either married, want considerably younger women, just plain weird, or simply not interested. When you're young you can really try to make men jump through hoops to "earn" sex from you, but when you get mature then very few men are willing to jump through hoops for that aged cooch (that's probably why older women are so easy). *HUGS* St. Nick
Green Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 Personaly I don't mind jumping few some hoops to start a romantic relationship with a girl. I don't scare off easy so in the begining I don't let much get to me. I've had the thing happen where everything is going great and you get the girls top off and she just doesn't want to have sex that night happen. It's a little frustrating but its nothing that would make me stop liking the girl. Flakeyness is my biggest turn off when starting a relationship, I would still feel the same way about a girl if things got hot and heavy and ended with out sex even if it seemed like it was going to happen.
Kamille Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 I think the issue here is based on the limited romantic experience I do have. Fortunately, my self-esteem isn't really an issue (haha), but now I can apply what I've gathered to future relations. This whole ordeal was actually helpful. :oI have learned: 1. The only "expectations" that exist are your own. People will respond and treat you how you let them treat you. 2. Men view sex differently. I never thought of myself as a tease because I knew my intentions were almost always rooted from the right reason... but that's not how I was being interpreted. Next time, unless I want to have sex- I need to keep my clothes on. 3. Slow DOWN. Great things come with time. There is no rush. Don't show all of your cards. And don't invest so much, so soon! My heart and brain is more valuable than my body... so I need to be careful when I share that, too. 4. The very best people in my life have made considerable efforts to be there. They treat me SO well, and love me consistently. They respect me, appreciate me and I'm allowed to be imperfect: say no, and love openly. It's easy to lose perpective, but I am so fortunate! I'm okay. I'm successful, intuitive and loving. I am so lucky to be ALIVE and healthy. This? This is petty stuff. Ultimately, to not hold tight to someone who is willing to let you go. All of this struggle, investment, thinking and affection should be directed to those who refuse to let me go Because I'm great, and so are all of you. And life and love is complex and daunting, but if romantic love is anything like the honestly, overwhelming and sweet love I share with my friends and family? I'm in. I can wait. I love this post not just for this situation but as a mantra for everyone. You are a smart cookie and I'm glad you feel better.
Kamille Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 (edited) You might as well start getting experience now cuz the older you get the fewer chances you'll be able to get. Ask all the older women in their 30s (especially late 30s) or over, for them there are noticeably fewer men who want to chase after them. Many men their age are either married, want considerably younger women, just plain weird, or simply not interested. When you're young you can really try to make men jump through hoops to "earn" sex from you, but when you get mature then very few men are willing to jump through hoops for that aged cooch (that's probably why older women are so easy). *HUGS* St. Nick I agree with the jist of the post and certainly the intention behind it. And especially, St.Nick, I'm glad you ask how dating is for 30+ women. I'm 34 and I can assure you, there are just as many available quality men at this age as there were when I was 20. Plus, the great thing is, we've all benefited from years of maturity. As to men's willingness to "jump through hoops", I for one believe I shouldn't have to make a man jump through hoops to prove his love for me. He either does or he doesn't. Best I can do is be myself. I never have problems getting men to commit for relationships, precisely because I respect my boundaries, know I have a lot to offer, and don't play needless games. And as I aged, I stopped trying to meet my perception of men's expectations of "women's sexuality" and have sex at my own pace, when I am ready, because it is pleasurable to me and a part of how I express attraction. In other words, I haven't gotten easier - it takes me longer to open up sexually to guy. Instead of causing problems, this has made my love life way easier and steamier. So Marsle, live your life: you are already getting experience. Not need to accelerate the process! And, when you have a good head on your shoulders, dating doesn't get harder, it gets easier! Edited March 27, 2010 by Kamille
homersheineken Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 Tip: In the "options" area of your profile, go down to "thread display options" and set the 'number of posts per page' to 40. Makes the novels easier to read So, what's up for this fine weekend? Thx! blah blah - so that I can go above 10 chars...
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