Johnny M Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 There is no shortage of loaded guys who will pay 100% of everything to go out with hot women. The only women who don't expect the 100% treatment are the average or below-average ones looks-wise. They have to "lower their price" in order to be somewhat competitive... You couldn't be more wrong!! I had no problem banging chicks when I was broke ass law student with nothing but student debt to my name, and they weren't average or below average either. One of the only things that are good about the dating scene in North America is that money is not as important here as it is in the rest world (since women make as much as men do). By the way, what you said about America vs. Eastern Europe/Asia/South America is actually the opposite of how things actually are. I have traveled extensively in Eastern Europe and can tell you that guys over there throw money around much more than American men do (even if though they make less money). Over there, men always pay for everything and one's earning ability is far more important than looks, height, personality or any other attribute. That's because women over there usually either don't make any money or make very little but still want all the nice things they see in American movies and TV shows. So if you subscribe to the "throwing money around to impress women" philosophy, I can assure you that you will get much better results in Easter Europe and the third world.
Johnny M Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 I wish I could shake your hand. Seriously! All these lame dudes on this forum are pissing me off beyond belief. And the sad thing is they're messing it up for us guys who know how to act around women. If more men in this country had self-esteem then women wouldn't pull nearly as much BS as they do. Don't let it stress you out. Everyone has a station in life, including the sugar daddies. Women love to keep guys like mrkleen around because of all the free stuff they get from them, but they don't love to sleep with them. I can't tell you how many stories I've heard from the women I've dated about their "admirers" - guys who bought them gifts, sent them flowers, spent hundreds of dollars per night on bottle service at some fancy nightclub - all in an effort to appear "gentlemanly" and "generous". And you know what? The women in question were openly mocking these guys (while, of course, continuing to take advantage of their generosity). If you can get women to like you for what you are, guys like mrkleen and and maddriver are no competition for you.
Johnny M Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 They weren't ****ing the current poor law student, they were ****ing the future rich lawyer, get it? If you were just a janitor with no FUTURE prospects, would they be with you? Women are very smart creatures. They were all hookups or short-term relationships. It's not like I told these women that I was planning to marry them or anything. And if that's what they assumed automatically, they certainly weren't "very smart creatures". I agree that status is important to women, so if a guy is a janitor, it's a turnoff. But there's a difference between being high status and being a big spender. In fact, I find that guys with lower status tend to be bigger spenders (proportionate to their income), because they are trying to compensate. However, since here in America we are all "equally" loaded, it is much, much harder to stand out from the competition in terms of spending power -- hence the need to spend EVEN MORE than when compared to Eastern Europe/Asia, etc. We'll just have to agree to disagree. My experience that you don't need to spend anything.
Johnny M Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 Yeah, St. Nick, just like that movie "She's out of my League" -- you can have a crappy job, a crappy car, a crappy family, a crappy body, and of course no money, but if you are a caring, honest, and funny guy, you can still bag a hard 10 like Alice Eve... All that matters is the inside, just like in the movie. When did I ever say that having high social status, money, and a nice body weren't important factors. You seem to confuse having money and status with spending lots of money on women. It's not the same thing!
St. Nick Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 Johnny M, the stuff you posted should be regarded as a fact. Unfortunately, these dudes don't wanna hear it. It's funny how women will listen to other women on dating advice like it's gospel (even when it's lies), but men will listen to dating advice from each other a lot less. All in all, you wanna be cool and give these dudes advice, but you have to admit it's exactly their lameass behavior that makes it easier for smart guys to get the chicks.
Johnny M Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 Johnny M, the stuff you posted should be regarded as a fact. Unfortunately, these dudes don't wanna hear it. It's funny how women will listen to other women on dating advice like it's gospel (even when it's lies), but men will listen to dating advice from each other a lot less. All in all, you wanna be cool and give these dudes advice, but you have to admit it's exactly their lameass behavior that makes it easier for smart guys to get the chicks. Part of the problem is that the "baller" mentality is heavily promoted by the media these days, and some guys are buying into that crap. Men who blow lots of money on women (and on things they think they need to pick up women) are a godsend for the corporate world. Think of all the restaurants, bars, jewelry stores and other establishments that would go out of business if these guys choose to spend their money more wisely (such as paying off their loans or, God forbid, even saving some for the future). In less politically correct times, this kind of lifestyle was called "n---er rich". But thanks to Hollywood and MTV, it seems to be gaining a wider audience.
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