always_searching Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 [N]or [do I] care to dignify cheap rhetorical tricks by treating them as actual arguments. Dodging the issue by claiming my (valid) points are "cheap rhetorical tricks"? Haha, all righty. Am I to assume that anything you have stated has even the slightest indication of proper argumentation? We are both expressing our own subjective views on the matter; both of us are coloring these views with various (obvious) emotional responses; etc. If you would like to enter into a proper argument, do you me know. I think I'm rather qualified to have it--I too am educated and can spew-off cited facts that would indicate your mistaken claims throughout this board, if that is what you'd prefer. I love how as soon as people begin to feel their own world-view crumbling, they hide behind unwarranted accusations such as yours (i.e. my responses are just "cheap rhetorical tricks"), rather than actually further engaging the discussion in order to come to a fuller perspective on life, marriage, raising children, etc. So what you really wanted was people to come on this thread and laud you for your brilliant insights on women, marriage, and raising children--is that right?
xxoo Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 Yep, that's how it starts - when one of the parties has ALL the answers (by virtue of being a woman). It's all downhill from there. But since I'm clearly not a man enough, nor a (potential) parent enough, I clearly have nothing more to contribute to this discussion, nor care to dignify cheap rhetorical tricks by treating them as actual arguments. It goes both ways. Reading your posts, it sound to me as you think YOU have all the answers. And many of your arguments are cheap rhetorical tricks, from my perspective. It really starts when two people with very disparate views on parenting marry and have children. Why do people choose a partner with views so far from their own? Either strategy can work IF the partners work together and respect each other's pov. My partner shares always_searching's philosophies on parenting, as do I, so it works out great for us . Of course, two people won't share every opinion, and that is where true partners consider each other's needs instead of getting bullheaded and defensive. That is where partners WORK TOGETHER to find solutions to their specific problem--not dragging in stereotypes and anecdata of every failed relationship you've ever heard of. It won't be all your way or all her way. It'll be something brilliant in the middle that you create together.
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