stillafool Posted March 14, 2010 Posted March 14, 2010 Have you ladies noticed lately (not just here on LS) how men are more emotional than they used to be? I mean they seem bitter over past relationships to the point that they cannot move on with a healthy attitude, even after years. We women hurt also but I don't hear women bashing the entire male population for what one guy did to us. Also the contradictions in what they say they want and what they really want: Emotional - They didn't want that in the past but I notice if you appear strong and in control of your emotions you are deemed a 'cold biotch'. WTF Marriage- They say they do not think marriage is good for men, they also tell you that men will basically cheat when a woman ages and that women only view men as sperm donors. Yet when a woman isn't interested in 'landing' a husband, they label her as an 'slut'. WTF Money- They have labeled women 'golddiggers' who sit home and do nothing while their h breaks his back for them. Yet, when a woman has a good career, makes her own money, pays her own way - they become threatened by her and call her a 'cold hearted career biotch'. WTF Sex- They complained in the past that women who could not get into sex were 'frigid'. No man wanted a woman who didn't enjoy sex. Yet, when women became free with their sexuality and expressed their need and desire for sex, instead of being grateful for an equal partner they label you a slut. WTF There are so many contradictions in what they say they want and what they actually want. I don't know how a single woman is supposed to figure out what they want when they don't have a clue. I don't mean to make this broad generalization because I know plenty of men (including some here on LS) who have it right. But, have any of you ladies noticed this about men lately. Also they seem so moody as if they are on their periods or something. Is it the hormones they are injecting in our food supply?????????
OnlyJake Posted March 14, 2010 Posted March 14, 2010 To be perfectly honest, I've only noticed such crazy behavior from some individuals on this board. Though I do agree that men, overall, are so much more emotional these days than in the past.
Confusedguy81 Posted March 14, 2010 Posted March 14, 2010 Ill admit, I still have issues with women. For most of my life I was fat with a bunch of issues and it seemed like women looked right through me. When I lost the weight and I became semi-attractive, I was drawing more attention from women. It's hard not to think of alot of women as shallow...
tami-chan Posted March 14, 2010 Posted March 14, 2010 I agree with OnlyJake....I have only noticed it from a few....however this IS a relationship forum ( mostly, bad and/or sad experiences)-so this is really not representative of the men "out there". Besides, why shouldn't they express exactly what they think or feel about issues? These are not exclusive to women.
LovelyDaze Posted March 14, 2010 Posted March 14, 2010 To be perfectly honest, I've only noticed such crazy behavior from some individuals on this board. Though I do agree that men, overall, are so much more emotional these days than in the past. It's been enlightening to be sure. I think it's great that some of the guys on the board let their emotions fly. Makes me feel better that I will run into an honest guy that won't feel so guarded about how he feels. Give me honesty... even it is brutal.
Woggle Posted March 14, 2010 Posted March 14, 2010 There are plenty of bitter women as well but people male or female only tend to notice what is directed at them. If you were a man you would see it from our point of view as well. The internet has pretty much become for men what girlfriends are to women. When we deal with relationship drama this is where we go to vent.
Author stillafool Posted March 14, 2010 Author Posted March 14, 2010 There are plenty of bitter women as well but people male or female only tend to notice what is directed at them. If you were a man you would see it from our point of view as well. The internet has pretty much become for men what girlfriends are to women. When we deal with relationship drama this is where we go to vent. I can't believe this bitterness doesn't carry over into your real lives. But, what about all the contradictions? You guys say you want one thing and then when it's given to you that's not what you want at all. Do you even know what will make you happy? I'm not being mean, I am really curious at this point.
Author stillafool Posted March 14, 2010 Author Posted March 14, 2010 I agree with OnlyJake....I have only noticed it from a few....however this IS a relationship forum ( mostly, bad and/or sad experiences)-so this is really not representative of the men "out there". Besides, why shouldn't they express exactly what they think or feel about issues? These are not exclusive to women. That is not the point. Of course they can express their opinions and they do with no problem. We all do. I am just surprised that there are so many men who become so bitter after a breakup that they practically hate the female population because of one woman who hurt them. I just don't get the same tone from women who have been hurt. Men are actually looking for ways to hurt women they don't even know. WTF? Also more than the bitterness, it is the contradictions of what they said they wanted and now that they have it, they are still not happy.
Woggle Posted March 14, 2010 Posted March 14, 2010 I can't believe this bitterness doesn't carry over into your real lives. But, what about all the contradictions? You guys say you want one thing and then when it's given to you that's not what you want at all. Do you even know what will make you happy? I'm not being mean, I am really curious at this point. Women contradict themselves all the time as well. You hear all the time how women want a caring and faithful man who treats them well but in reality that is rarely what they go for. They claim to want independence but get angry when a man shows a lack of chivalry. Modern women are filled with contradictionsl Also not all men are the same. I think that many men talk this being a player is the best option talk because it is damn near impossible to find what they really want with the modern woman so the next best option is being a player. I really don't care what women do as long as it does not affect my life but I know that certain women just make better partners for a man. Also this bitterness does not usually carry on into my life though I have slipped at times. Men have a great ability to change moods on a whim. It is way a man can be a ruthless lawyer in the courtroom and a loving family man at home. With women it all tends to bleed together which is why many career women are such a turnoff for men.
Pyro Posted March 15, 2010 Posted March 15, 2010 Yes I notice alot of crybaby men on here and at times it embarasses me at times to be the same gender as them.
sagetalk Posted March 15, 2010 Posted March 15, 2010 Women contradict themselves all the time as well. You hear all the time how women want a caring and faithful man who treats them well but in reality that is rarely what they go for. They claim to want independence but get angry when a man shows a lack of chivalry. Modern women are filled with contradictionsl You nailed it right there. This is one of the main things that turns me off to dating. The total lack of honesty in what the other person is looking for. If you want a bad boy, great, just let me know. If you want a respectful, upstanding guy, great, just tell the truth. It would save people from worlds of heartache. To the OP, if a guy calls you a slut because you enjoy having sex with him, then he is the dumbest male alive. A slut is a girl that puts out a lot to a bunch of guys, not to the guy she is in a committed relationship.
Author stillafool Posted March 15, 2010 Author Posted March 15, 2010 Also this bitterness does not usually carry on into my life though I have slipped at times. Well you are already taken. But to single guys with this attitude there is no wonder they can't get a nice girl. Men have a great ability to change moods on a whim. It is way a man can be a ruthless lawyer in the courtroom and a loving family man at home. With women it all tends to bleed together which is why many career women are such a turnoff for men. This isn't true. I know female lawyers and other professional women who are great at what they do. They are still loving wives and mothers.
Woggle Posted March 15, 2010 Posted March 15, 2010 This isn't true. I know female lawyers and other professional women who are great at what they do. They are still loving wives and mothers. There are some and they are not a turnoff to men. Women that complain that men are threatened by their independence and success for the most part are just making excuses for a rotten attitude and personality.
Ruby Slippers Posted March 15, 2010 Posted March 15, 2010 We women have more money, power, and freedom than we have in a long time (may have had more in some ancient cultures, such as Egyptian and those with goddess-based religions and myths). Because we have more money, power, and freedom, we don't have to depend on men like we used to, and that means we don't have to put up with behavior and treatment we don't want to put up with. We can be choosier with our mates. Naturally, the men who fall below our expectations and are not chosen are bitter. The only sound path for us women is to drive our own destinies. The strong, capable men we want will keep up with us and evolve along with us. Those who can't keep up will disqualify themselves. Complaints from men about how much women suck is the best evidence of mate unsuitability there is.
sagetalk Posted March 15, 2010 Posted March 15, 2010 and that means we don't have to put up with behavior and treatment we don't want to put up with. We can be choosier with our mates. Naturally, the men who fall below our expectations and are not chosen are bitter. If only that were true, how I would love a world where that was true. But nothing has really changed. Men who abuse women, treat them as mere sexual object, and are unfaithful to them rarely sleep alone. The evolution of women in this regard is zero.
Woggle Posted March 15, 2010 Posted March 15, 2010 If only that were true, how I would love a world where that was true. But nothing has really changed. Men who abuse women, treat them as mere sexual object, and are unfaithful to them rarely sleep alone. The evolution of women in this regard is zero. Very true. The men who ignored feminism's attempt's to remake men are the winners in today's dating game. I sometimes wonder if the whole enlightened men movement was an attempt to weaken and emasculate men.
sigurpol Posted March 15, 2010 Posted March 15, 2010 Yeah, no that's a super-feminist view that doesn't cover much. This. Yeesh.
Ruby Slippers Posted March 15, 2010 Posted March 15, 2010 Complaints from men about how much women suck is the best evidence of mate unsuitability there is. Didn't take you guys long.
Woggle Posted March 15, 2010 Posted March 15, 2010 Didn't take you guys long. Because we all know women never bash men or ever complain about how we suck.
Dolos Posted March 15, 2010 Posted March 15, 2010 Cant we just agree a lot of people (of either gender) are hypocrites? A lot of women have a habit of spouting feminist rhetoric they heard somewhere and clearly don't understand, as they still expect men to initiate everything (because heaven forbid if they got rejected, it might be embarrassing!), pay for everything, and in general expect men to keep doing all the chivalrous things done back when when women were essentially second class citizens. Conversely a lot of men complain that they want a nice girl they can trust, and then proceed to treat her like a doormat when they have one. There's also my personal favorite of a man wanting a woman who hasnt had many sexual partners, then calling her a sexually repressed prude if she wont have sex 2 weeks into the relationship, because hes just so amazing it should work like that for him and no other guy. Its really an endless list to be honest. Though to answer the original question, men probably use this website as an outlet more than women do. When a woman is pissed off about her boyfriend she will go complain with her friends, while a guy is (comparatively) less likely to talk about his relationship with his friends. Also, to be perfectly honest ive met more women who were bitter about what one guy did to them than i have bitter men, could just be me though.
homersheineken Posted March 15, 2010 Posted March 15, 2010 We women have more money, power, and freedom than we have in a long time (may have had more in some ancient cultures, such as Egyptian and those with goddess-based religions and myths). Because we have more money, power, and freedom, we don't have to depend on men like we used to, and that means we don't have to put up with behavior and treatment we don't want to put up with. We can be choosier with our mates. Naturally, the men who fall below our expectations and are not chosen are bitter. The only sound path for us women is to drive our own destinies. The strong, capable men we want will keep up with us and evolve along with us. Those who can't keep up will disqualify themselves. Complaints from men about how much women suck is the best evidence of mate unsuitability there is. Shtick post
St. Nick Posted March 15, 2010 Posted March 15, 2010 Yes I notice alot of crybaby men on here and at times it embarasses me at times to be the same gender as them. So castrate yourself already why doncha? Jeez. There are some and they are not a turnoff to men. Women that complain that men are threatened by their independence and success for the most part are just making excuses for a rotten attitude and personality. Yup. The most bitter women are the ones who complain that men don't want them because they are too independent. We women have more money, power, and freedom than we have in a long time (may have had more in some ancient cultures, such as Egyptian and those with goddess-based religions and myths). Because we have more money, power, and freedom, we don't have to depend on men like we used to, and that means we don't have to put up with behavior and treatment we don't want to put up with. We can be choosier with our mates. Naturally, the men who fall below our expectations and are not chosen are bitter. The only sound path for us women is to drive our own destinies. The strong, capable men we want will keep up with us and evolve along with us. Those who can't keep up will disqualify themselves. Complaints from men about how much women suck is the best evidence of mate unsuitability there is. Soooo......how are you driving to your destiny by racking over 2000 posts within 2 years by bitterly complaining about men on the internet? It's Sunday night and you spend your time being negative and spewing feminist mumbo-jumbo? Yawn. I can see why a dude would choose to be disqualified by you rather than be chose to evolve along with you. Having a woman who spends her Sunday nights spouting feminist hot-air on the internet is definitely not my idea of a good catch.
Ruby Slippers Posted March 15, 2010 Posted March 15, 2010 Soooo......how are you driving to your destiny by racking over 2000 posts within 2 years by bitterly complaining about men on the internet? Stop, I'm going to cry. Wow, I'm averaging 3 posts a day. I might crash the server if I don't slow down!
aroll32 Posted March 15, 2010 Posted March 15, 2010 This thread is great. A couple people seem to get what I think is the best answer. Everyone is a hypocrite. Men hurt women, women hurt men. There's really no change or evolution in this cycle. Just consistent repeating episodes of what has already happened or what will happen. There are male players and female players (although the male players seem to be more abundant). Everyone gets down on themselves or is upset at least ONCE in their lifetime about how a man or woman has made them feel. If you can say you haven't, then damn, more power to ya.
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