shadowplay Posted March 13, 2010 Posted March 13, 2010 Unless a man decides to be 100% celibate and never even deal with women he can't remove himself from the war. A man can be the nicest and kindest person to women on the face of the planet and there will always be a woman wanting to crush him so she can settle some score or empower herself. I disagree. You can remove yourself by picking the right people to surround yourself with and ignoring the rest. You shouldn't let the knowledge that bad people exist affect you aside from avoiding them. You know that you'll never be a doormat again so you have nothing to fear. The only way they can affect you at this point is by having an emotional hold on your psyche, which you're allowing them to do. I'll repeat it again. It's as easy as finding good people and avoiding and stop caring about the rest.
CLC2008 Posted March 13, 2010 Posted March 13, 2010 If it's not a war then why do you see the casulties and fallout of this war all over this board. I don't go out seeking innocent women to hurt but if a woman hits on me when it is clear I am wearing a wedding ring and in many cases she has one as well I will be as rude as I can be to her. She shouldn't be hitting on a married men or cheating on her husband. Most men who have been abused by women in their life are much worse and much more vicious than I am. You might want to watch the movie Monster with Aileen Wuornos. Justice, IMO, was when the jury declared her guilty...
Woggle Posted March 13, 2010 Posted March 13, 2010 You might want to watch the movie Monster with Aileen Wuornos. Justice, IMO, was when the jury declared her guilty... You mean the Oscar winning movie where they made a hero out of a female serial killer?
shadowplay Posted March 13, 2010 Posted March 13, 2010 What if I became obsessed with all the horrible people in the world? I would be miserable and powerless because I had let them get to me.
CLC2008 Posted March 13, 2010 Posted March 13, 2010 You mean the Oscar winning movie where they made a hero out of a female serial killer? Is that what you view as a hero?
Woggle Posted March 13, 2010 Posted March 13, 2010 Is that what you view as a hero? I have never seen it but from what I hear they make her out to be a hero in the movie. I do not view her as a hero in any form but supposedly they piortray her in a very positive light and many feminists do view her as a hero.
shadowplay Posted March 13, 2010 Posted March 13, 2010 Woggle, women still control you. They've infected your psyche. They will continue to control you until you let go. And that doesn't mean becoming a doormat.
Author Barky Posted March 13, 2010 Author Posted March 13, 2010 Ok let's get the thread back on topic eh?
Author Barky Posted March 13, 2010 Author Posted March 13, 2010 (edited) If what all these women are saying is true, that they don't notice attractive men AT ALL in public places unless the men initiate some contact, then it is true that those women are COMPLETELY sexually passive creatures. Like a computer that is off unless it is turned on by some human. It doesn't get mad that you walked by without turning it on, it's not even really 'aware' of your existence until it is turned on. If they could go into a bar and a handsome man could sit down nearby and it wouldn't even register to them whatsoever, then they're truly 100% passive. They have no willful volition of their own, at least when it comes to dating. This would mean, at least when it comes to dating, that these women are true OBJECTS. They have no ability to initiate, because they don't even have an ability to perceive that there's someone in the vicinity that could be a sexual partner. Interesting. Edited March 13, 2010 by Barky
threebyfate Posted March 13, 2010 Posted March 13, 2010 Now that's a huge leap of faith, Barky!! You're hilarious!
Author Barky Posted March 13, 2010 Author Posted March 13, 2010 Now that's a huge leap of faith, Barky!! You're hilarious! Please feel free to point out the inaccuracies of my logic.
threebyfate Posted March 13, 2010 Posted March 13, 2010 Please feel free to point out the inaccuracies of my logic.I'm going to use an analogy instead. It's as bad as women assuming the handsome man in the OP, is gay, since he didn't approach!
callingyouuu Posted March 13, 2010 Posted March 13, 2010 If what all these women are saying is true, that they don't notice attractive men AT ALL in public places unless the men initiate some contact, then it is true that those women are COMPLETELY sexually passive creatures. Like a computer that is off unless it is turned on by some human. It doesn't get mad that you walked by without turning it on, it's not even really 'aware' of your existence until it is turned on. I think this isn't true when they're inexperienced, but after they've been "rejected" a few times, women sort of learn to become this way through their experiences that tell them not to get their hopes up so early without someone flipping their on switch. Sort of a desensitization from male presence, in a way.
Author Barky Posted March 13, 2010 Author Posted March 13, 2010 I'm going to use an analogy instead. It's as bad as women assuming the handsome man in the OP, is gay, since he didn't approach! Yeah... thanks for trying.
Author Barky Posted March 13, 2010 Author Posted March 13, 2010 I think this isn't true when they're inexperienced, but after they've been "rejected" a few times, women sort of learn to become this way through their experiences that tell them not to get their hopes up so early without someone flipping their on switch. Sort of a desensitization from male presence, in a way. Well that's a good argument. It still makes them 100% passive though. Let's face it, if they can't even NOTICE an attractive guy close by, then they essentially have no volition toward or perception of the opposite sex. It's almost as if men who aren't hitting on them don't even exist. It must be kind of startling to be hit on as a woman. You think you're alone in the bar and suddenly a man pops into existence next to you and offers to buy you a drink.
alphamale Posted March 13, 2010 Posted March 13, 2010 I would think that it would be annoying to get constantly propositioned, but that's coming from my position as a man. If a woman is attractive and is used to getting hit on at all times by pretty much every single man in her life, is it strange and confusing when a man DOESN'T hit on her? its only strange and cofusing when she wanted the man to hit on her and she was giving of the signals for him to do so
threebyfate Posted March 13, 2010 Posted March 13, 2010 Yeah... thanks for trying.Okay, I'll be more direct, if you can't correlate it. Not too many people internalize the actions of someone who they have no interaction with. Talk about overly-sensitive! You're also assuming that women sit at bars, to pick up men. Not always.
Author Barky Posted March 13, 2010 Author Posted March 13, 2010 its only strange and cofusing when she wanted the man to hit on her and she was giving of the signals for him to do so So if a woman is interested she always gives off signals? And these women were saying that they wouldn't even SEE the attractive men around them. And those who are focusing on the whole bar thing obviously aren't understanding the point of this thread.
Author Barky Posted March 13, 2010 Author Posted March 13, 2010 Not too many people internalize the actions of someone who they have no interaction with. I think people analyze the actions of others around them all the time. And people by nature internalize things. You think that guy is looking at you when in fact he's looking at the bright colored bird or whatever behind you. Happens all the time.
alphamale Posted March 13, 2010 Posted March 13, 2010 So if a woman is interested she always gives off signals?. not always but if shes smart she will
threebyfate Posted March 13, 2010 Posted March 13, 2010 I think people analyze the actions of others around them all the time. And people by nature internalize things. You think that guy is looking at you when in fact he's looking at the bright colored bird or whatever behind you. Happens all the time.Internalizing a complete stranger's actions to the level of rejection, who hasn't had any interaction with you, is truly overly-sensitive and totally unhealthy.
Author Barky Posted March 13, 2010 Author Posted March 13, 2010 Internalizing a complete stranger's actions to the level of rejection, who hasn't had any interaction with you, is truly overly-sensitive and totally unhealthy. We're not talking about whether it's "healthy," but whether it happens.
sweetjasmine Posted March 13, 2010 Posted March 13, 2010 If what all these women are saying is true, that they don't notice attractive men AT ALL in public places Um. That's not what we're saying. At least it's not what I'm saying. I notice people, but I don't automatically assume they're going to talk to me and ask me out and I don't care if they don't ask me out. then it is true that those women are COMPLETELY sexually passive creatures. No. Your logic doesn't make sense. People aren't constantly looking to ask out every single human being they find attractive every single time they're out in public. Just because I don't care if some cute dude doesn't ask me out doesn't mean I'm a "COMPLETELY sexually passive creature." Does it ever cross anyone's mind that not every person is always, constantly interested in trying to get into someone's pants? If they could go into a bar and a handsome man could sit down nearby and it wouldn't even register to them whatsoever, then they're truly 100% passive. They have no willful volition of their own, at least when it comes to dating. You're jumping to absurd conclusions. This would mean, at least when it comes to dating, that these women are true OBJECTS. They have no ability to initiate, because they don't even have an ability to perceive that there's someone in the vicinity that could be a sexual partner. Did it ever cross your mind that people aren't constantly looking for sexual partners 100% of the time they set foot out in public? Jeez.
2sunny Posted March 13, 2010 Posted March 13, 2010 women can be anywhere for a number of reasons. sometimes we may be oblivious to our surroundings and sometimes we are in tune with exactly what is happening... just as men are. when i am in tune - i notice every move, word and motion of the people around. to watch without interacting tells me a lot. i don't need a man to hit on me to enjoy some good people watching... sometimes it is more of an educational experience. when i am not - i have something else on my mind that requires my total focus. when i am aware - it is amazing what actually happens - i choose to participate at that point or just to watch.
threebyfate Posted March 13, 2010 Posted March 13, 2010 We're not talking about whether it's "healthy," but whether it happens.Anything is possible, when discussing human nature. There are people who find cadavers erotic, too. But this doesn't mean that the vast majority of people are going to feel rejected, if someone goes about their own business, no matter what gender.
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