carhill Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 The bottom line is that women wear cleavage-revealing outfits for one reason and one reason only. That reason is attention whoring. Yes, and they'll friendzone any man who does not give those tatas the proper attention they deserve. Heil zie breasteses!
Stung Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 I'm with D-Lish. Sure some women might do this as a form of attention-whoring, but I'm a busty type and if I thought about it I would never bend over. I can give quite a show wearing a pretty modest simple v-neck T-shirt, and I'm sure I have by accident now that you've made me think about it. I look at myself in the full-length mirror in the morning to make sure I'm presentable and then I go about my day, I don't spend a whole lot of time wiggling and contorting around to see how my boobs look from different angles, and when I'm wearing a v-neck or scoop-neck if I look down at MYSELF through the course of the day it's not too low-cut, but in different positions/from different perspectives, it might look different. I bend over dozens of times a day to rummage through my purse, to write something on a table, to pick my crawling kid up off the floor and I never think about the orientation of my shirt during the process unless I feel it riding up my back or something. If you're super-attractive and hardcore pointed flirting is going on, they might be aware of what they're doing, so it's really a case-by-case situation. If they're really courting attention and the male gaze, they're probably aware. But in general If I'm trying on shoes, I'm thinking about shoes, and hey...I gotta bend over to tie those shoes. You'd get much more of a show if I went the alternate route and lifted my foot up to my face .
Author SomewhatExperienced Posted March 3, 2010 Author Posted March 3, 2010 I've posted this same question at a different forum and I've had many women say that when they try on shoes their mind is fully on the shoes. I've also had some women say they do do it to give a show. I should clarify though. The shop I work in is the central business district of the city, so many business dressed ladies come in to buy shoes at lunch time. I wouldn't say that upright their shirt are revealing, its simply when they're bending over and from my viewpoint, it can't be any better for looking down the shirt. I wish our profile tags said if we're male or female. There's too many jaded guys who think they know EVERYTHING about the way ALL women think. I'd prefer honest answers from women.
St. Nick Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 Yet they pretend not to know so many things that are blatantly obvious. TRUTH! I'd prefer honest answers from women. LOL. Good luck with that. I used to want the same thing but now I realize I have a better chance of seeing Haley's Comet twice in one lifetime than getting straightforward honest answers from women. So I can't help you find what you're looking for. Sorry. But hey, if you ever need someone to help you find the Lost City of Atlantis or the Lochness Monster then I'd be happy to oblige.
phineas Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 Now that I think about it, I find that I do this myself...but with my rumpus...and I'll give it a little shake for good measure... I like to drop my pen & slowly bend over to pick it up. drives the women crazy.
USMCHokie Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 I like to drop my pen & slowly bend over to pick it up. drives the women crazy. I prefer to do this with Twinkies.
phineas Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 I totally believe they know what they're doing and are flirting. I'm sure there are some girls out there who wouldn't really think of that kind of thing as they bend over-but coming from a girl with a pair, it's usually a little tactic we use. If i'm out with a group of people & notice some of the women working the clevage i'll compliment them on working the clevage. They ALMOST immediatly try to get me to buy them a drink upon which I let them know their Jedi-boob tricks won't work on me.
phineas Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 I prefer to do this with Twinkies. That would cause a stampede in my office.
flc Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 All the posturing on these topics is so silly. Humans like to be desired by the opposite sex, they dress accordingly. The whole consumer market thrives on this fact so why deny that you like it when someone of the opposite sex thinks your attractive? I have a great realtionship with my GF we both know that we find others physically attractive and we look (no touching ) and we have no problem pointing out to each other when someone we see looks good (sexy). We both are confident in our relationship, we both find each other physically attractive and have no desire to pursue anyone else.
lostsoulmate Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 OK. I have bent over in the mirror to take a look, but and I stress BUT only after noticing or being told that the girls were loose.
threebyfate Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 All the posturing on these topics is so silly. Humans like to be desired by the opposite sex, they dress accordingly. The whole consumer market thrives on this fact so why deny that you like it when someone of the opposite sex thinks your attractive?Yup, I agree with this. If you're wearing something that "just happens" to fall open or ride up, you're aware of it, whether it's on a conscious or subconscious level.
Ruby Slippers Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 If you're wearing something that "just happens" to fall open or ride up, you're aware of it, whether it's on a conscious or subconscious level. If the weather is nice and I am wearing a non-revealing V-neck shirt, someone standing above me while I lean down to put on a pair of shoes is going to see some cleavage, whether it's a cute salesman or a middle-aged saleswoman. And I am not going to think about this in either case -- I'm thinking about whether I want to get the shoes.
2sure Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 OK. Ive got rather nice "girls" , I'm a bit flirty, I like when men find me attractive. BUT. I have NEVER ever given an instant of thought to what blouse I should wear to try on shoes. AND if I happen to be wearing a blouse or shirt that offers a view to someone who is kneeling in front of me while I bend over to look at me feet...(well, this could happen with every shirt but a turtle neck)...it doesnt mean I'm flirting or trying to expose myself. Yes, I'm aware you may have a view, I just dont care. Its cleavage, get over it. If I'm flirting with you, I would look into your face while giving you the view and smile in an inviting way as opposed to a I'd like another size way.
hitzpink Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 Ok, how do you women with large breasts allegedly not know that when you lean over in a low-cut or v-neck top, you are flashing everyone?? I honestly do not believe anyone who says that!! I mean, I wear an A/B cup, and even I'm aware of the visibility of my breasts at any given moment! I can't imagine being a D cup and not realizing that everyone can see down my shirt when I lean over. I think this is one of those situations where women want to pretend they are innocent. "Oh I didn't mean to flirt with him! I was just being friendly! *giggle*" "REALLY, you can see my t!ts when I bend over and my shirt falls to the ground?! I had no idea!"
Jersey Shortie Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 It's a matter not of stupidity, but of naivete. I am 33 years old, and it wasn't until the last few years that I began to make negative assumptions about what men were really thinking, based mostly on conversations I have had with men online and things I have read online that they have written from behind the safe shield of anonymity. For instance, I really, truly thought that it was only the scummiest and shadiest of men who rated women on the 1-10 scale, until I saw at least half of the posters on LS do it. It's been a major (and sometimes heart-breaking) eye-opener for me. Pretty much the same for me. It's really depressing this board sometimes. I can't find one nice thing said about women here. It seems like no matter what you do, a man will find something nasty to say about you and your behavior. You're not allowed to breath without it meaning you are trying to be a gold-digger or show your breasts. I mean, this thread should be pretty harmless but a bunch of guys come in here sounding angry and mean just because a woman might wear and ENJOY wearing a low cut top. What in the world do you men want? You want to be able to oggle every woman you see but you don't want women to dress sexy? To answer the OP. Yes, some women are aware. Some women really aren't. Sometimes we just wear things because they look cute and we don't always know how much is showing.
Stung Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 I have NEVER ever given an instant of thought to what blouse I should wear to try on shoes. . I know, right? I have never met a woman who, upon realizing she might do a bit of shoe-shopping that day, immediately thought to rush home to change her shirt.
threebyfate Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 I don't see anything wrong with wanting to be attractive to the opposite gender. Most of the posts aren't derogatory towards women. But some of the posts are derogatory towards the denial factor. I'm sure that once every blue moon, every woman has had at least one unintended wardrobe malfunction. Just ask Janet Jackson. But plse, if it happens all the time, don't be telling people it's not intended.
LovieDove24 Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 I know, right? I have never met a woman who, upon realizing she might do a bit of shoe-shopping that day, immediately thought to rush home to change her shirt. HA! Agreed ladies. Dlish, 2sure, you said it well. When I leave the house, I do a quick glance in the mirror and thats a wrap, Im out the door. I do not, repeat DO NOT contort myself all over the place to see how much cleavage is showing at any given angle. Sure, I own certain tops that are ridiculously revealing, in which case I will agree with you, I AM trying to show them off. But I do not wear these types of tops out to the shoe store, more likely Im wearing them on dates or for a night out on the town. In other words, if the top doesn't scream sex and is rather a run-of-the-mill V-neck from the Gap, trust me, I am NOT trying to flash you when I bend over. And for ladies with big boobs (I can't relate), they could be wearing the same top as I and be accused of wearing a risque shirt whereas I am showing no cleavage. There's nowhere else for them to go so leave the busty women alone! Lol.
tincanman99 Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 This is pretty amusing. I figured out a while ago they may not intentionally flash you but they are often aware its happening though and just dont care. Take when I work out at the gym, I take group classes many times because i like them and the fact it will be me and 2 other guys in a class of 40 women . But here is the reality you cant tell me they dont know I am looking when you are standing 5 feet in front of me in stretchy pants you are dipped into and not know I am looking at your butt . Recently my trainer smacked me on the butt in front of everyone in the class and all the women loved it. Dont tell me they dont know.
Ruby Slippers Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 In other words, if the top doesn't scream sex and is rather a run-of-the-mill V-neck from the Gap, trust me, I am NOT trying to flash you when I bend over. Exactly. But plse, if it happens all the time, don't be telling people it's not intended. I am perplexed at your stubbornness over this matter. Several women have said we don't think about it or intend it, yet you insist we do. Why would I have any reason to misrepresent myself on this point on this message board? You clinging to your opinion comes across as catty to me. You are accusing us of being calculating and devious when we are not. Why the venom? You may think of your breasts as tools to be used to your advantage, but I don't. They're just another part of my body, like my elbows or knees. I have nice legs, but I wear shorts and skirts in summer because it's hot and those clothes are comfortable, not because I'm trying to get a reaction from people looking at my legs. What in the world do you men want? You want to be able to oggle every woman you see but you don't want women to dress sexy? Of course! The angry, bitter men on this board are pissed at women no matter what we do. Demure women are prudes who would rather be doing the hot neighbor, sexual women are sluts who obviously are doing the hot neighbor, and women who have breasts are obviously using them as weapons against the hot neighbor.
Stung Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 Ok, how do you women with large breasts allegedly not know that when you lean over in a low-cut or v-neck top, you are flashing everyone?? I honestly do not believe anyone who says that!! I mean, I wear an A/B cup, and even I'm aware of the visibility of my breasts at any given moment! I can't imagine being a D cup and not realizing that everyone can see down my shirt when I lean over. I think this is one of those situations where women want to pretend they are innocent. "Oh I didn't mean to flirt with him! I was just being friendly! *giggle*" "REALLY, you can see my t!ts when I bend over and my shirt falls to the ground?! I had no idea!" Please trust me when I say I have never giggled while my tits bounced out of my shirt, nor have I twirled my hair around my finger and popped my bubblegum. I am an adult professional who happens to have larger breasts than you yet is apparently not as self-conscious about my body because I am definitely not worried about the 'visibility of my breasts at every given moment'. I don't walk around thinking about my boobs all the time, they're not exactly centerpieces of my personal focus. I wear bras and perfectly normal shirts, and then I go about my day. Sure, sometimes I think about my breasts or my body or how I look to others, and I do enjoy feeling attractive, but it's not something that preoccupies me overmuch. I mean, don't you have better things to think about than your breasts? They're not that interesting, they're sacks of fat that feed my infant son, put my husband in a good mood, give me backaches, and have on occasion made other men act like idiots. Please note, the OP is NOT talking about girls in extremely lowcut nightclub attire, he is talking about office workers in business casual on their lunch breaks, with presumably relatively modest necklines, who are shopping for shoes. I'm not sure how everyone thinks they should accomplish said shoe-shopping without bending over. Lift their legs up by their faces? Carry a bib around in their purse for shoe-shopping emergencies? A v-neck T-shirt or a button-down business casual blouse is hardly an attention-whoring outfit, but if I am shoe-shopping in one I will probably flash cleavage too. I don't really think about it because I'm NOT trying to flirt with anyone, I'm just trying to buy some damn shoes.
LovieDove24 Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 I'm not sure how everyone thinks they should accomplish said shoe-shopping without bending over. Lift their legs up by their faces? Carry a bib around in their purse for shoe-shopping emergencies? :lmao: Wow, I actually laughed so hard I cried reading that.
JamesM Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 As a guy, I honestly do not think that most women show cleavage for someone to see. Most are simply an accidental view. It is only the minority that do so out of exhibitionism. My guess is that most men here would say that the pretty ones do it on purpose and the older ladies (above 50ish) only do it as an accident. The reality is that the older ones may be the ones who do it one purpose as a way to feel you again. I have seen the older ones who do it give me that long look as a challenge to me as they bend over more often than the younger (below 30) women. I think we men should be able to tell when it is on purpose. And unless we are the type of men who like to think we have women eager to show us their boobs, then most of us know that accidental showings are more frequent than purposeful ones. The most obvious one I remember is the 30ish girl with nice boobs in a cut off V neck shirt with no bra underneath who spent quite awhile talking to me, signing her check, talking to me again as everything was available for me to see. In fact, I almost think touching was an option. After a few minutes of this blatant act (which was done in front of other customers and another clerk), I simply came up with an excuse to leave and gave her over to the female clerk standing there. What did I experience? Excitement? No. Nothing but anger as she seemed to enjoy my discomfort. I think most men would say that the accidental ones are more exciting than the purposeful ones anyhow. Or shouldn't I say that?
threebyfate Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 Okay, so for the ladies who don't know what happens, now that you know, are you going to change? If not, you either just don't care or are doing it on purpose, to solicit attention. Once again, it seriously is okay to want to be attractive to the opposite gender. If someone denies this, I'm going to have to laugh.
Ruby Slippers Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 Okay, so for the ladies who don't know what happens, now that you know, are you going to change? If not, you either just don't care or are doing it on purpose, to solicit attention. Stung's thoughts expressed above are very close to my own. Of course I'm not going to stop wearing NORMAL CLOTHES to go shoe shopping, and leaning forward in a NORMAL WAY to put on a pair of shoes! How else are you supposed to put on shoes??? I could pull my foot up into my lap, I guess, and then you'd accuse me of trying to flash my vagina. I am a C cup, so most fashionable, comfortable tops I wear are going to reveal some cleavage in situations where I have to bend over in any way. Should I sneak away to the broom closet with the shoes, so as not to subject any innocent bystanders to the sight of my *gasp* CHEST? While I'm at it, I'll never lean over to get an item from the bottom shelf at a store, pick up something I accidentally drop, or bend down to tie an untied shoelace. I will just use my magical man-hypnotizing breasts to get them to do all that for me. Once again, it seriously is okay to want to be attractive to the opposite gender. If someone denies this, I'm going to have to laugh. Sure, of course. But going about normal activities wearing normal clothing does not amount to trying to attract attention. I really have to wonder about the pathology of someone who suggests that it does. Suggests major narcissism to me.
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