McGrupp Posted February 27, 2010 Posted February 27, 2010 hahahaha i think this guy is me... http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29516
Woggle Posted February 27, 2010 Posted February 27, 2010 This sounds like so many threads on here but man have ourselves to blame because if we had any respect for ourselves we would not put forth an ounce of effort for these women. Why do men consider it a great loss to lose one of these women? I just don't get it.All that time obsessing over a witch can be put to use actually creating a good life for yourself.
Author McGrupp Posted February 27, 2010 Author Posted February 27, 2010 yeah...its funny b/c its so ****ing cliche and were all that dude... great
Author McGrupp Posted February 27, 2010 Author Posted February 27, 2010 heres another...although i think i won custody... http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29322
4givrnt4gtr Posted February 27, 2010 Posted February 27, 2010 OMG that story sounds exactly like the my ex and his first g/f! (whom he couldnt fully forget and get over what she did to him so he could not fall in love with me according to him )"lawyer" included! how hilarious! What is it about these type of women you boys like so much?? it just boggles my mind and leaves me thinking if thats what you all want...there really isn't much hope for the rest of us who actually appreciate a good man. Ah well, i guess that just how it is right?
Woggle Posted February 27, 2010 Posted February 27, 2010 heres another...although i think i won custody... http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29322 My ex couldn't stand my friends who i reconnected with afer we split and I wanted nothing to do with the pieces of work she hung out with so I won in that respect. I will never betray the people that truly care about me for a woman ever again.
Woggle Posted February 27, 2010 Posted February 27, 2010 there really isn't much hope for the rest of us who actually appreciate a good man. Ah well, i guess that just how it is right? Do these women actually exist and do they back up the talk with action?
Author McGrupp Posted February 27, 2010 Author Posted February 27, 2010 oh snap! b/c were too nice. and i dont mean be an *******, but a mna should not put anyone first except himself...and then maybe like his kids or something
4givrnt4gtr Posted February 27, 2010 Posted February 27, 2010 Do these women actually exist and do they back up the talk with action? Well lets put it this way. I dated a guy who swore up and down wanted a good relationship with me but asked me to be patient as he was still dealing with left over resentment from "the b itch" of his ex. Because I saw he was a quality man, and I still think he is, I did all I could to make sure he knew he WAS that good of a man, regardless of what she had said for 5 years. He appreciated it, at least said he did, but said that for some reason he still couldnt help but hold back. Yet, when it came to her, oh lord....he had the nerve to call her his best friend, even after she cheated on him twice...he even asked me if i would be ok with him eventually talking to her again, you know, in case she felt he was worthy enough of her friendship (which literally a day after this conversation she sent a letter saying she never wanted to hear from him again). By the time i was fed up with the whole thing he agreed I've been the best girlfriend he's ever had...but just for some reason, couldn''t find it in his heart to get "that feeling" Betcha if I had been "that b itch" that wasn't patient and threw a tantrum whenever I didnt get what I wanted we would be singing a different tune. i guess you live and you learn
Woggle Posted February 27, 2010 Posted February 27, 2010 Well lets put it this way. I dated a guy who swore up and down wanted a good relationship with me but asked me to be patient as he was still dealing with left over resentment from "the b itch" of his ex. Because I saw he was a quality man, and I still think he is, I did all I could to make sure he knew he WAS that good of a man, regardless of what she had said for 5 years. He appreciated it, at least said he did, but said that for some reason he still couldnt help but hold back. Yet, when it came to her, oh lord....he had the nerve to call her his best friend, even after she cheated on him twice...he even asked me if i would be ok with him eventually talking to her again, you know, in case she felt he was worthy enough of her friendship (which literally a day after this conversation she sent a letter saying she never wanted to hear from him again). By the time i was fed up with the whole thing he agreed I've been the best girlfriend he's ever had...but just for some reason, couldn''t find it in his heart to get "that feeling" Betcha if I had been "that b itch" that wasn't patient and threw a tantrum whenever I didnt get what I wanted we would be singing a different tune. i guess you live and you learn If he actually returned your affection could you have promised him that you would not have eventually gotten board and fallen out of love? Be honest with yourself. If you are one of the few women that could have treated him well then I am sorry for what you went through but after a man get's burnt by one woman it is very hard for him to ever trust again. I don't know if I will ever trust a woman again. It is sad that women such as yourself have to pay the price for women like the one in the article.
4givrnt4gtr Posted February 27, 2010 Posted February 27, 2010 If he actually returned your affection could you have promised him that you would not have eventually gotten board and fallen out of love? Be honest with yourself. If you are one of the few women that could have treated him well then I am sorry for what you went through but after a man get's burnt by one woman it is very hard for him to ever trust again. I don't know if I will ever trust a woman again. It is sad that women such as yourself have to pay the price for women like the one in the article. Its funny you asked if I wouldnt have eventually got bored...cuz he used to asked the same thing. The sad thing is that i was so in love with him that just watching him read a book fascinated me. So honestly Im not sure how I would ever had gotten bored of him. And whats even more sad is that I could bet you, him and every other man who says they wont even trust again is that you will, only the girl you will trust again is gonna be another b itch that forces you to prove your worth over and over and it will never be good enough. As they say, we all want what we cant have.
Woggle Posted February 27, 2010 Posted February 27, 2010 Its funny you asked if I wouldnt have eventually got bored...cuz he used to asked the same thing. The sad thing is that i was so in love with him that just watching him read a book fascinated me. So honestly Im not sure how I would ever had gotten bored of him. And whats even more sad is that I could bet you, him and every other man who says they wont even trust again is that you will, only the girl you will trust again is gonna be another b itch that forces you to prove your worth over and over and it will never be good enough. As they say, we all want what we cant have. The sad thing is that I have a woman who is pretty much in the same situation you are. I want nothing whatsoever to do with my ex but I am afraid if I trust her she will betray me. Getting screwed over by a woman like this really scars a man inside.
Author McGrupp Posted February 27, 2010 Author Posted February 27, 2010 wonder what would happen if i sent this to my ex... cept i blocked her email... UNBLOCK!
GrayClouds Posted February 27, 2010 Posted February 27, 2010 i suspect she would think that you was still pining for her and boost her ego because not only that your thinking of her but in a sad way relate to a bit it humors but very pathtic guy in the article.
Author McGrupp Posted February 27, 2010 Author Posted February 27, 2010 fine. gray u win yet again... BLOCK!
GrayClouds Posted February 28, 2010 Posted February 28, 2010 fine. gray u win yet again... BLOCK! I suck the fun out of everything dont I!
4givrnt4gtr Posted February 28, 2010 Posted February 28, 2010 The sad thing is that I have a woman who is pretty much in the same situation you are. I want nothing whatsoever to do with my ex but I am afraid if I trust her she will betray me. Getting screwed over by a woman like this really scars a man inside. Well I tell you this, since I cant say it to my ex anymore and from the sounds of it you and him are in the same place. Don't get into a relationship until you have dealt with the anger and resentment from your past. Its not fair for the person who ends up loving you and has to deal with the "yeah but I cant trust you". If you do it just looks like you just need a warm body to get you thru the day. Either that or take a huge leap of faith....I wish my ex had...whenever he seemed to do it he freaked out and would go back to "im holding back". Too bad cuz when he allowed himself to relax we had an amazing time together. Dont cheat yourself of that for someone who clearly wasn't worth it. The worse part is, if you do string a good girl along you basically end up doing what your ex did, break a good heart and scar a girl to where she never wants to trust and care like she used to before. Then you're left wondering...why are there no good caring girls anymore? OP sorry to thread jack.....and you know I thought about posting the article on FB for my ex's benefit...but then I thought...nah he isnt worth the effort. Glad to see you arent gonna send it to your ex either
Woggle Posted February 28, 2010 Posted February 28, 2010 I understand your frustration but you should direct your anger at the women who walk all over a man that treats them well. They are the ones that make us jaded and hardened.
4givrnt4gtr Posted February 28, 2010 Posted February 28, 2010 (edited) I understand your frustration but you should direct your anger at the women who walk all over a man that treats them well. They are the ones that make us jaded and hardened. Lol! well yes partly, I hate that chick like you wouldn't believe. But I also think you boys have much more power than you think. I know I've been hurt more times than I care to count, but I will be damned if I allow a do uche to dictate my love life and give him the satisfaction to have that much power over me and to ruin my chances at having a good relationship. Even when I say I dont want to trust again, I know its a phase, I know Im stronger than that and though I will be more careful, I will not close my heart. Its MY mind and MY heart therefore its MY choice Thats what I don't understand. Why men allow themselves to give up their power to a worthless woman like that. Its like you guys throw your hands up in the air and say "well thats it! she was it! i throw in the towel, she will be the end all be all and what she did has now become the ruler of my heart, I will not even try to fight it" Now by all means take your time and heal, but PLEASE i BEG of you, even if I dont even know who you are, do NOT give yourself, your hope and your future up for someone who really is just not worth it. I may not be the most perfect person in the world. But I do want to love a good man, and treat him right. If i exist, someone on your side of the world who feels the same and who would love to love you and would never hurt you deserves you to retake your power from your ex. Don't give your ex the satisfaction of never experiencing that because of her. Its scary but trust is a conscious decision. And as Ive often heard, you cant control what others do to you but you can control how you react to it. If you want to let it ruin your life...so be it. But if you want to overcome their BS....you can do it Edited February 28, 2010 by 4givrnt4gtr
Woggle Posted February 28, 2010 Posted February 28, 2010 It's not about them having power over us but about us vowing to never let another woman treat us like that.
4givrnt4gtr Posted February 28, 2010 Posted February 28, 2010 (edited) It's not about them having power over us but about us vowing to never let another woman treat us like that. I was reading your old threads, I didn't realize you are married already. How did that happen? I mean not in the what the heck was she thinking but in the if you can't trust, how did you decide to marry your wife? In any case, reading what you post I realize you are still in a world of pain. Whoever hurt you hurt you to the deepest parts of you. I am truly really sorry. I bet you your wife would wish she could turn back time, have you not meet your ex, and meet her instead so you guys could really have the relationship you were meant to have without ghosts. Thats how I felt/feel about my ex anyway. And in that one thread about how she might be the exception....yeah she might be...thus hold her with both hands, let go of the fear as best as you can and cherish her. Its hard to find someone who loves us my friend. Don't throw it away I can see how she and I are very similar....and if thats true...she adores you to no end and is devastated every time you let it slip that you dont trust her and you think she is like the ex. I guess im projecting.... Edited February 28, 2010 by 4givrnt4gtr
Woggle Posted February 28, 2010 Posted February 28, 2010 It's not just about my ex. What I learned about women after my first divorce cannot be unlearned. I can't go back to being blind about how women really are.
silverfish Posted February 28, 2010 Posted February 28, 2010 It's not just about my ex. What I learned about women after my first divorce cannot be unlearned. I can't go back to being blind about how women really are. All your posts suggest that you're still learning how 'women really are'. So what, do you think your W wants to hear about that? All you need to know is how your other half really is....so why not talk to her about all this I think less and less of you for coming in here so much...it diminishes you now you are married and if she's a smart woman she will find it demeaning to her to discover that you write about your relationship and her this way. Does she know you post in here so much? Do you think its fair to her that you have a 'secret online life' that includes writing your thoughts about her and other women on a daily basis? i have an image of you sitting in a corner typing for hours while your W does what exactly ? What does she do while you're on here? Sorry Woggle, I've respected your POVs on many occasions, but you my friend have severe double standards going on
Woggle Posted February 28, 2010 Posted February 28, 2010 She does her own thing while I am on here. We are not attached at the hip. I will never leave myself vulnerable to let a woman hurt me again. She still chooses to stay married to me but if she doesn't like it she can leave. It might be a double standard but I know if the genders were reversed many women on here would be in full agreement with what I say. I am just protecting myself.
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