GoodOnPaper Posted February 25, 2010 Posted February 25, 2010 I am kinda sad to see the responses here. Do women really walk all over nice guys? A lot of times -- or they will just hang around until a guy with more sex appeal comes along. Just because some women are like that doesnt mean all are. Trust me, I would love to find a man who doesnt cheat on me for a change. The thing is, even though you didn't like the cheating, you were probably attracted to the same masculine qualities that give them ample opportunities to cheat. Many nice guys that you say you are looking for have a difficult time getting through women's first filter of sex appeal criteria. If a guy makes it through that, then he is universally adored for all of the nice things he does to treat a gf well. If the guy can't make it through that first filter, then he is a "nice guy" and anything "nice" that he does is perceived as coming from a position of weakness -- then he is walked on or strung along. Granted, sometimes that perception is warranted, but many times it is not.
Johnny M Posted February 25, 2010 Posted February 25, 2010 YES!!!! Who says this doesn't work with women? I have yet to find a man who does these things for me and I know i would treasure it if i did. You only say this because men don't actually do these things for you. It may sound sweet and romantic now, but if men were actually doing things like that for you, you would quickly become spoiled and start mistreating these nice guys. The reason why most attractive girls are bitches has to do with the fact that there are men out there willing to shower them with attention and do just about anything for a chance with them, and it gets to their head. It's basic human nature - if you treat a woman like a princess, don't be surprised when she starts acting like one.
Woggle Posted February 25, 2010 Posted February 25, 2010 what do you mean they aren't a catch? that's the kind of stuff that makes a guy a catch, imho. i'd rather have someone i can chill with who will treat me good then a jerk. thats too much drama for me. dont get me wrong, i believe you that a lot of women are into *******s, but i dont understand it! If you stay that way eventually you will find a man who can open up and be a good partner but it will take time. Men are too used to treating a woman well only to get completely crapped on for doing so and sadly it has made it hard for women like you.
tami-chan Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/24/AR2010022405727.html Coincidence that the ratio of college educated black women to black men is 3:1 and black women are saying "they're no good guys left" which really means, there's not enough to marry up with. Hmmm..let's see...http://www.uwnews.org/article.asp?articleID=4393 I don't get your beef...do you think they should marry the ones who are in jail? or drop-outs?
counterman Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 Sometimes it goes like this. A guy treats a girl really well. She finds it really sweet and romantic at first and actually appreciates it. Soon enough, time passes, it becomes a little boring and less challenging and she'll leave that guy. She then goes for a jerk, who mistreats her and she realises she wants the other guy back. The problem is: once bitten, twice shy; the other guy doesn't want that to happen again and gets really protective. It's a vicious cycle.
skydiveaddict Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 OK I don't know if it's just me or what but am i the only one who just isn't meeting nice guys? It seems like every guy I meet is a jerk or is lazy Where do you go to meet good men? Go skydiving
USMCHokie Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 Go skydiving This is obviously the answer to all of life's foibles...
skydiveaddict Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 (edited) This is obviously the answer to all of life's foibles... Was there ever any doubt? And after that long list of famous marines, THIS is the thanks I get? Edited February 26, 2010 by skydiveaddict
skydiveaddict Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 where do all the good men go? seriously,all the good available men, are skydiving. check it out for yourself, all ages too
Krytie TV Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 OK I don't know if it's just me or what but am i the only one who just isn't meeting nice guys? It seems like every guy I meet is a jerk or is lazy Where do you go to meet good men? This may be surprising, but probably a strangely large amount of them are with/looking for good women. Sometimes people who complain about not finding a "good/nice" mate are not good/nice people. No judgment about you, just an observation.
Author single-n-lonely Posted February 26, 2010 Author Posted February 26, 2010 I think the OP is a troll. Notice the tiny number of female posters? I wouldn't be surprised if they were secretly lacking their asses off at this thread. Either that or away from the internet and on the phone crying to their "nice" male friends about the cruel things their lazy jerkwad boyfriends did to them. Why do you think I am a troll, StNick? How insensitive. There are a lot of women like me who have problems with finding ******* men time and time again. I am on here for help, not to be disrespected.
Author single-n-lonely Posted February 26, 2010 Author Posted February 26, 2010 lol, i do actually love to skydive ;-) KrytieTV, you are right. bad people do attract bad people a lot of times. i dont feel like im a bad person though. i never cheated on anyone in my life. im not saying theres nothing wrong with me, but if anything is something psychological. i dont know whats wrong with me for finding the same losers over and over again. everyone on here is saying that i wouldnt even like a nice guy if i had one, but i disagree. These boyfriends i have are always nice at first, but something happens. The people who said i have a problem in choosing men, i think ur right. thats where i need to focus on fixing. thank you everyone!
Choboto Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 They switch their game up after seeing what really works with most women. ima have to agree with this. I used to be nice to girls, compliment and be a nice person(in high school), but could never get any interest. I turned into a "lazy, jackass" ,cuz i was done with it, around college and i had college girls fallin off trees.
Choboto Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 Why do you think I am a troll, StNick? How insensitive. There are a lot of women like me who have problems with finding ******* men time and time again. I am on here for help, not to be disrespected. You do realize the nice guy is usually going to be the quieter guys. Most girls go for the "loudest" guy. This is prob what your doin.
carhill Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 Replace 'loud' with 'aggressive pursuit' Also, when women are consistently bombarded by the 'aggressive pursuers', they turn the volume down sufficiently so as not to notice the good men within their field of view. Healthy pursuit becomes a whisper.... 'what?'
nddb Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 OP: If you are real, women like you are a gem. Many women find men who are too accessible or open with their feelings for you lacking in the "mystery" and "challenge" department, and men learned after the girl walks out to be with the jerk to adapt to avoid getting their heart stomped on. Dramas suck, but some women thrive on the intense feelings that dramas generate. Which is why they are attracted to jerks. And men learned over time to adapt so that they don't lose their women to jerks. Sad, but that's what it comes down to for a lot of people.
nddb Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 (edited) P.S. I was the jerk, the one with the dirty jokes, the one who acted like he doesn't care, and the one who made my then-girlfriend cried. Three other guys, all very nice boys I will say, at least one loaded with cash, were after my then-girlfriend. Objectively, I'm not the best looking or most buff. It didn't bother me--I wasn't in a serious mindset. I had to move away so I broke off before the move because I didn't want a long distance relationship, made her cry for two days straight (I found this out after the fact). One of her suitors stayed on the phone all night the night we broke off, listening to her wailing about me and what a jerk I was. He was supportive, understanding, and by all accounts, even I will admit, the kind of guy I would want my sister to date. Then I changed my mind and gave her a call and asked if she's around so we can talk? We had made-up sex and then her phone rang. It was the guy wanting to know if she needed to talk some more that he'd be there for her. I was like...WTF...and she just said "Sorry, we made up and I'm fine now. Bye" and then went back to get some more. I've grown up since...but I have no doubt I'd be dry-d$cked if I had played the nice guy role that, in my 20's, my wife found utterly boring. Even my wife, to this day, said that I was an a-hole then, and that the other guys were much nicer. We've been married nearly 20 years and I'm a nice, domestic husband now but yeah, for what it's worth, that's nice guy for you. Edited February 26, 2010 by nddb
skydiveaddict Posted February 27, 2010 Posted February 27, 2010 Why do you think I am a troll, StNick? How insensitive. There are a lot of women like me who have problems with finding ******* men time and time again. I am on here for help, not to be disrespected. St Nick is a child, he belongs on a "teen" forum. The less attention you pay to him , the better
alphamale Posted February 27, 2010 Posted February 27, 2010 Dramas suck, but some women thrive on the intense feelings that dramas generate. most women thrive on drama. just look at what they read, watch and talk about
Barky Posted February 27, 2010 Posted February 27, 2010 The ones you most want are the ones who least want you. The ones you least want are the ones who most want you. And the ones you don't really care about either way are the ones you'll end up with.
nowomanocry Posted February 27, 2010 Posted February 27, 2010 all the good men are dumped and here on the site .. ready to be milked again lmao
Awesome Username Posted February 27, 2010 Posted February 27, 2010 All of the good men are over there on the other side of the fence with all that green grass.
skydiveaddict Posted February 27, 2010 Posted February 27, 2010 all the good men are dumped and here on the site .. ready to be milked again lmao lol true words my friend
BobSacamento Posted February 27, 2010 Posted February 27, 2010 You could cut the sense of entitlement in here with a knife.
bamaphilosopher Posted February 27, 2010 Posted February 27, 2010 I have enjoyed reading this thread very much. I fit the "nice guy" stereotype, and have had very little success with women. When I read literature on what I need to do to become successful with women, I see something that just isn't me. Everything is counter-intuitive. Oh, well...maybe I'll find a compassionate woman one day, rather than the jerks who have walked all over me.
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