donnamaybe Posted March 2, 2010 Posted March 2, 2010 I am leary of womenin general but I do give them a chance to prove themselves and she does time and time again. Look at the threads from the seperation and divorce forum and look at the threads from cheating women who act like they are the poor little victims. This is what many deal with everyday because they did not take the proper percautions to protect themselves. I LOVE the Freudian slip in the first paragraph. I've read your other threads. You do NOT give OTHER women a chance. You've admitted to biting a perfect stranger's head off merely BECAUSE she's a woman! As for the second paragraph, do you expect to find the good marriage stories in the separation and divorce forum?
Author Woggle Posted March 2, 2010 Author Posted March 2, 2010 I LOVE the Freudian slip in the first paragraph. I've read your other threads. You do NOT give OTHER women a chance. You've admitted to biting a perfect stranger's head off merely BECAUSE she's a woman! As for the second paragraph, do you expect to find the good marriage stories in the separation and divorce forum? I was angry about the fact that a man should be expected to be chewed out simply for smiling at a woman yet a woman can go up to a man and say hello and I am supposed to be all friendly. It was the double standard that angered me but I admit that I reacted wrongly. I was in a bad mood that day.
meerkat stew Posted March 2, 2010 Posted March 2, 2010 I'm not sure how the original post could be called pragmatic. These are the type of posts made by men who have repeatedly failed with, and have been taken advantage by, women. I know of no man who has had success with women posting anything like this. It's like people who hate lawyers or cops. They're usually folks who have been shafted by one. People who have healthy relationships with the legal system do not have animosity toward it, unless they're just blindly parroting what others have said to them. OP says "men should protect themselves" wow that's some highly sexist inflammatory stuff! I guess in your logic, it is impossible for a man to have any complaint at all about women's behavior and still have a successful life comprising mostly successful relationships with women. Many women internalize and personalize men's legitimate complaints and issues posted here way too readily, and proceed to obnoxiously and insultingly shift blame back to men as you do above. I don't see men having nearly this same level of internalization problems with posts here. When I read a post about "men are so and so," if it is a ridiculous post, I may flame it, but for the most part I don't care, as I'm not "men." This basic realization seems to escape many female posters.
Silver_star Posted March 2, 2010 Posted March 2, 2010 If you look around it is obvious that certain women just make better wives and partners than others. They are less likely to cheat, become walkaway wives and are also less likely to grow to resent their men for whatever reason. Men want to maximize the odds that we will have a happy marriage that lasts because we have seen so many of our peers go through nasty divorces or end up in marriages where their wives seem to hate them. Why is it that these men are called sexist, misogynistic and closed minded for simply wanting to avoid the drama that goes with picking the wrong woman? Isn't it perfectly logical for somebody to want to maxmize their odds of having a successful relationship? Same goes for women. Women want to maximize the odds that they will have a happy marriage that lasts. Find a man that doesnt end up resenting her either. Most women hope that they will be able to find that. And if they make a comment about it she is a feminist, or a loser, or her intelligence or integrity is challenged. So what is the point of your thread? The door swings both ways OP.
Author Woggle Posted March 2, 2010 Author Posted March 2, 2010 Same goes for women. Women want to maximize the odds that they will have a happy marriage that lasts. Find a man that doesnt end up resenting her either. Most women hope that they will be able to find that. And if they make a comment about it she is a feminist, or a loser, or her intelligence or integrity is challenged. So what is the point of your thread? The door swings both ways OP. How many men end up resenting the hell out of a wife that treats her like gold?
Silver_star Posted March 2, 2010 Posted March 2, 2010 . The major thing with her is that she empathizes and understands the male point of view. Is there only one male point of view? DO you orchestrate this point of view? . That one thread that Carhill linked is the reality that many men live everyday. Look at the threads from the seperation and divorce forum and look at the threads from cheating women who act like they are the poor little victims. This is what many deal with everyday because they did not take the proper percautions to protect themselves. What about the situations that women have to face because of cheating spouses? I feel like we all have the right to protect ourselves, but that should not come in the form of outright judging, degrading, and berating an entire gender. You do it on this forum to release your anger at women who have wronged you in the past, and I think it comes off the wrong way to women. Put the shoe on the other foot Woggle, do you wanna hear this bull**** "Men are all going to cheat and lie" "my mans faithful and I have learned to trust him over time but I will throw him out of my house if he talks to me the wrong way". "If hes done it once, he will do it again". I dont think cheaters are victims of the situation of the affair, but i still think they are human whether it is a man or a woman. Do I want to be with a man who had cheated in the past? Maybe not...but there is alot of gray matter that is not addressed. Maybe it was 10 years ago, maybe they really are different now. We dont know unless we are involved and take an active role in getting to know that person. Trust should be the theme of discussion. You dont trust women. Fair enough. But deal with your own problems dont project them to spawn your hate.
Silver_star Posted March 2, 2010 Posted March 2, 2010 How many men end up resenting the hell out of a wife that treats her like gold? POint of the matter is Woggle you werent talking about your own situation...your trying to project something else. What if he doesnt treat her well? Your definitions of good treatment and mine may differ. there is such a thing as individuality.
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