SarahRose Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 Actually societies in which money is not even a concept (indigenous communities), women still prefer older men for wisdom, knowledge, and leadership. I have female friends that PREFER much older men and they are far from materialistic.. Some of the men they want have a hard time they are wanted just for being older.. Then it was land and other property like livestock. Old, way back then was 30.
SarahRose Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 Let me also state that I think the same of older women and younger men--I've always gotten this vibe, from both older men and women, that they're trying to recapture their youth or something when pursuing someon significantly younger. Not saying either shouldn't pursue who they want, but that's just my take on it. And thanks, sage, but it doesn't take away from the fact that I still find it incredibly creepy. Even if I found them good-looking I'd be grossed out--and of course none of them have been. They were all potbellied and balding, apparently seriously thinking they had a chance with a 22-year-old. Well they are trying to recapture their youth by bagging someone 20 years younger. They want that ego stroke and admiration from their peers. It is funny how these guys posting insisting all the 20 years old want them. All you have to do is just go outside and walk around and look at couples and it is pretty rare to see large age difference. So guys you are old. You are getting old and going to die just like everyone else. You are delusional to think 20 year old girls want your old paunchy bald flaccid selves. Sorry but it's true. Get over yourself!
PhillyDude Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 Well they are trying to recapture their youth by bagging someone 20 years younger. They want that ego stroke and admiration from their peers. It is funny how these guys posting insisting all the 20 years old want them. All you have to do is just go outside and walk around and look at couples and it is pretty rare to see large age difference. So guys you are old. You are getting old and going to die just like everyone else. You are delusional to think 20 year old girls want your old paunchy bald flaccid selves. Sorry but it's true. Get over yourself! I don't go hunting for them, they seek me out. Like online I will say I want a 27-33 year old and then a 21 year old will respond and say-"i'm very mature for my age"
calazhage Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 Actually American women are quite lucky.. In many countries women age 30 are considered too old, even for single guys in their 40's and 50's! I am 33, and before my recent relationship I have found it much easier to pick up women 21-25 than I ever have when I was age 21-25..
elaina Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 (edited) The real reason why all of the women on here are so angry is that there is nothing you can do to stop aging, and even if you're a young women now, it's inevitable that you will become an old woman some day. I only hope that if I find a good husband someday, he will not post some of these despicable ads looking for "discrete" romps with younger women. Great post Awesome Username!!! ------------------------------------------- This whole thread is so sad, because most women I know would love to be loved for all of their life, by a man who they love... Men would like that too, right? My grandparents got married when they were both 16 years old, and they were married almost 50 years till Mamaw passed away with cancer. They grew old together, and I think that's one of the most beautiful things in life, a couple who love each other growing old with each other, not worrying about being traded in for a younger model or a richer one or a taller one or a more nicer looking one, but enjoying life with the person they love. Papaw misses Mamaw so much and is not even considering marrying again... it saddens and confuses me how their kind of love seems to be so rare for some reason. I wonder why that is? Anyways, men being interested in younger women is an age old thing... in other countries of the world, there are some men that marry girls who are in their early teens, while they are the same age as the girl's grandfather. This thread reminds me of how beautiful it is to see an elderly couple holding hands and smiling and enjoying time together, after going through all the downs and highs of life, marriage, kids, bills, wrinkles, rainy days, rainbows, snow, sleet, beautiful sunsets... Isn't that beautiful? I wish everyone could experience that kind of love, ageless love. Edited February 21, 2010 by elaina
Tropic Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 Most of the men interested in younger women. . . or closing themselves to dating someone their age or close to it are shallow. I said MOST, not all! I am in my 20s and had some older men pursue me (older as in their 40s). I could never do it, no matter how much money they had. Plus eventually we would not be able to do the same things when he is old and I am just middle age. . . I don't want to be taking care of an old man. I want an equal partner, with whom I can share my life and interests
Jersey Shortie Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 The egos in this thread are funny. Not to mention a bit delusional to have the mentality that all younger women want nothing more then to be a the love monkey of an older man. Yes, these relationships happen. However, not to nearly the extent that some would like to believe. What I've observed is most people stay within 5 years of each other, younger or older. Few people marry that much older or younger. Now back in the day, women did pick older men to marry. Social economics were different at that time. Now with the advent of women being equals in the workplace, and the social dynamics of men expecting women to pick up more of the financial burdens, women are much more likely to base their choice in mate on old school charm. If men do not provide more resources and financial help, and they don't today, there isn't much reason for a younger woman to be with an older man. And that is why we see more women picking men based on factors of looks and age more then money. Women do not need a man to support them like they use to. We can pick men for how much we are attracted to them instead of just money. My one friend, who was in an significant age relationship just divorced or old husband because, and I qoute "..he couldn't keep up". She is in her twenties and still wants to have fun, do interesting things, while raising their child. And he couldn't keep up with her or the responsiblities it takes , and energy to raise a child since he was 50. It's interesting that some men think they have forever to have kids. Yes, they can have them later in life. The question isn't that they can but if they should. Their sperm is 50% the cause of age related disfunctions in their off-spring. And still some men refuse to acknowledge this. In essence, doing in their own offspring for the sake of their egos and not getting on the baby train earlier. Yes, men can wait. But an energetic father of 35 is a MUCH better option then a father of 50. That's the reality of life gentlemen. Men's sperm begins it's decline in your 30s. Isn't it interesting that nature is telling us that both men and women become less viable as we age? So you can read all the gossip mags you want about older men marring younger women, but you can't find fault with nature. And nature holds no prisoners. Men do not become more viable with age. Just like women, men become less viable with age. You are just as expendable for your age, as a woman could be. You are not better. You are not more refined. You are paunchy, old and wrinkly and younger women do not look to you in awe of your "worldly" knowledge. They smile to your face when you hit on them but once you walk away they snicker to their girlfriends about the old dude thinking he's good enough to be with her. Do you know how I know this? Because I have been hit on by older men, and so have my friends and we aren't flattered by it. Older men can easily make themeslves the butts of their own jokes. Men get older and they don't get more attractive. And most average men aren't going to be making the kind of money it would take to win over a trophy wife anyway.
Barky Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 It's so funny how each gender is trying to beat down the other in this thread. Pass the popcorn. Everything sorts itself out on the dating market. I've dated women 10 years younger and 14 years older and everything in between. If you're an attractive, successful dude of any age, women of all ages will want you. Just so happens that while men usually get less attractive as they age, they get more successful. If the success outpaces the age-related degeneration, they get more attractive to ALL women. And since younger women are usually more desirable to men, those successful men will choose those younger women. Looks and money... that's the dating game in a nutshell. All the bickering is entertaining yet pointless.
soserious1 Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 If that was true, you wouldn't be acting so defensive. As for your claim that you look better than most women 20 years your junior, even if that was true (which I seriously doubt), you would be a rare exception. And the only way you could be more attractive now than you were back in your 20s is if you lost a ton of weight. This is getting ridiculous. Are seriously trying to argue that aging makes women more attractive? Really?? I guess that explains why so many women are buying various cosmetic products that make their skin appear more wrinkly, and get plastic surgeries that make their boobs look saggier and stomachs flabbier. It also explains why all the top fashion model are in their 50s Sometimes I feel like Alice in Wonderland when I read this board. Some of you people are so delusional, you actually believe your own nonsense. I get it, women want to stay young forever, but that's no excuse for living in denial. But you're only fooling yourself. I don't live in denial at all, I look in my mirror and clearly see the flaws aging has brought, it's not pretty to look at, in fact I try to avoid mirrors because the sight of my aging face and body disgusts me and turns my stomach. I totally get why men love younger women and I don't blame them for it. I'm just sad, I could live another 35-40 yrs getting physically more repulsive to look at with each passing day. I focus on my work, I try to do charitable works as well but the thought that all that lies ahead is further physical decline just keeps banging away in my brain. It is a man's world, an older man , has many, many, many more social options than an older woman does.
Ninita Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 It bothers me how some older men think they can get any young girl. I'd never date anyone older than 30, yuck. Well, never say never, I might meet someone gorgeous of course! But generally they just lose their looks and I want someone who's at my level. Maybe I would think differently if I wanted children but then again older men have way more Down-kids and I wouldn't want to take that risk. I guess older women don't have the confidence to try to get men. Confidence is sexy and so older men do better. I can see how that works.
PhillyDude Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 It bothers me how some older men think they can get any young girl. I'd never date anyone older than 30, yuck. Well, never say never, I might meet someone gorgeous of course! But generally they just lose their looks and I want someone who's at my level. Maybe I would think differently if I wanted children but then again older men have way more Down-kids and I wouldn't want to take that risk. I guess older women don't have the confidence to try to get men. Confidence is sexy and so older men do better. I can see how that works. Some girls would PLAY with someone over 30 but not DATE someone over 30.
angie2443 Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 It is a man's world, an older man , has many, many, many more social options than an older woman does. An older man gets a younger woman if he much wealthier than her, or if she has mental problems. I have never seen this work any other way.
angie2443 Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 Just so happens that while men usually get less attractive as they age, they get more successful. If the success outpaces the age-related degeneration, they get more attractive to ALL women. Some get more successful. Many stay about the same. Others spiral downward. People date their equals. An old man who doesn't have something to trade for the youth of a younger woman, looses out.
Jersey Shortie Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 It bothers me how some older men think they can get any young girl. I'd never date anyone older than 30, yuck. Well, never say never, I might meet someone gorgeous of course! But generally they just lose their looks and I want someone who's at my level. Maybe I would think differently if I wanted children but then again older men have way more Down-kids and I wouldn't want to take that risk. They can't. They are living in their own delusion. They also don't want to admit about their own age related issues. The fact that male sperm decreases in quality every year after 30. And that they are HALF responsible for their children's medical issues. The ones who are going to suffer most are their off spring because their father's lived in their own delusion about their own aging progress. Nature doesn't tell us that men should have children later in life any more then it tells women that. It's the reason why male sperm decreases in their 30s and older men experience ED so much that none of us are igorant to those goofy viagra commercials. This is nature's way of also weeding off men.
meerkat stew Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 "Nature's way of weeding off men?" For every single man I know, self included, getting women -of any age- becomes so much easier after 35. By that time, though, getting women is not really a primary life focus for most men. Ironic. Look at all the angsty threads from twenty-something and early 30s men you see started here. How many of those types of threads are started by men late 30s and over?
Chicago_Guy Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 My one friend, who was in an significant age relationship just divorced or old husband because, and I qoute "..he couldn't keep up". She is in her twenties and still wants to have fun, do interesting things, while raising their child. And he couldn't keep up with her or the responsiblities it takes , and energy to raise a child since he was 50. Does your female friend have issues? I really have to question why a woman in her 20s would go for a guy in his 50s in the first place. I can understand a 10-year age difference, but 20+ years when the woman is still in her 20s seems crazy to me. I think that a lot of guys would that that your friend is damaged goods and possibly psychologically unstable because she knew the guy was so much older than her yet married him anyway and then bailed out of the marriage after having a kid.
tami-chan Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 "Nature's way of weeding off men?" For every single man I know, self included, getting women -of any age- becomes so much easier after 35. By that time, though, getting women is not really a primary life focus for most men. Ironic. Look at all the angsty threads from twenty-something and early 30s men you see started here. How many of those types of threads are started by men late 30s and over? hmmm...what is the primary focus of most men at that time? I have thought that by that time , they have already done their partying and are now more"settled" and thus want to be in serious, committed relationships?
meerkat stew Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 hmmm...what is the primary focus of most men at that time? I have thought that by that time , they have already done their partying and are now more"settled" and thus want to be in serious, committed relationships? Ah, by "getting women" I meant racking up sexual conquests, not finding a long term relationship or mate. Most older men I know have gotten past the need to prove manhood by being sexually accepted by lots of women, and focus on other life goals such as career or settling into a long term relationship.
Jersey Shortie Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 Does your female friend have issues? I really have to question why a woman in her 20s would go for a guy in his 50s in the first place. I can understand a 10-year age difference, but 20+ years when the woman is still in her 20s seems crazy to me. I think that a lot of guys would that that your friend is damaged goods and possibly psychologically unstable because she knew the guy was so much older than her yet married him anyway and then bailed out of the marriage after having a kid. Dude, we all have issues. No one goes through life issue free. She wanted to settle down, have kids, thought that she was settling down with someone she loved. However, due to many age related issues, it didn't work out. She was young and that doesn't make you psychologically unstable. But I do so love your critic of her and no mention of a personal critic of her ex. So very telling. And she didn't bail on the marriage. She takes care of their child 90% of the time and struggles more fiancially without him but it wasn't working out and he wasn't being helpful on many fronts.
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