calazhage Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 I don't know what race/ethnicity the other poster is but some races don't age that much. A lot of black people can reach 40 and look the same as they did when they were younger. That could be the case with the other poster. Or maybe they just have good genes. Not everybody gets really wrinkled when tehy hit 40 Once again, it is not ALL about looks.. However, since so many of you are fixated on believing you look better now than 20 years ago, I am just saying I will never confuse a 45 yr old for a 25 yr old. If a guy is 40, and he wants to MARRY one woman for the rest of his life, he realizes an older woman, or woman his age is about to hit menopause. If he married a 30 yr old, in 10 years she will be 40.. In ten years a 40-45 yr old will obviously be 50 - 55. MEN THINK OF THE FUTURE. So even if at 40 if some women look amazing, men know this is short lived.
sumdude Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 Well since I fit the scenario perfectly I'll chime in. Ill be 42 in a week. I'm divorced with no children. My ex wife is 40, she went through early menopause and was unable to conceive which played a major part in the failure of our marriage, note that she ended it I did not. The last woman i dated for just a little while is 34. The one before that is 40. I'm gravitating towards women a few years younger, say 30-35. I may still want my own family and not sure I'd want to be step-dad and a lot of the available women my age are divorced with kids.
1_trick_pony Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 I've dated through a wide variety of age groups. In my 20's dating older guys wasn't a big deal. The biggest conflict was they wanted to settle down. Now in my 30's however, the problem is that most guys in their 40 or 50 something guys can't keep up with my 30 something libido.
You'reasian Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 (edited) Once again, it is not ALL about looks.. However, since so many of you are fixated on believing you look better now than 20 years ago, I am just saying I will never confuse a 45 yr old for a 25 yr old. . Its possible. A woman at 40 can look better than herself at 25 or even better. If she takes darn good care of herself, has a sharp sense of fashion and knows that attraction is in the mind - watch out!!! An experienced guy will know that youth sometimes involves annoyance - immaturity, inexperience and closed-mindedness. yes its a generalization. If a guy is 40, and he wants to MARRY one woman for the rest of his life, he realizes an older woman, or woman his age is about to hit menopause. If he married a 30 yr old, in 10 years she will be 40.. In ten years a 40-45 yr old will obviously be 50 - 55. MEN THINK OF THE FUTURE. So even if at 40 if some women look amazing, men know this is short lived. Depends on the guy, again. And hey, shouldn't you be prepairing for your next super middleweight bout? I kid, I kid Enjoy your posts - their raw and sharp, even if I don't always agree. Edited February 17, 2010 by You'reasian
GorillaTheater Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 If a guy is 40, and he wants to MARRY one woman for the rest of his life, he realizes an older woman, or woman his age is about to hit menopause. If he married a 30 yr old, in 10 years she will be 40.. In ten years a 40-45 yr old will obviously be 50 - 55. MEN THINK OF THE FUTURE. If men are thinking of the future, they're probably not going to get married in the first place.
calazhage Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 Well since I fit the scenario perfectly I'll chime in. Ill be 42 in a week. I'm divorced with no children. My ex wife is 40, she went through early menopause and was unable to conceive which played a major part in the failure of our marriage, note that she ended it I did not. . Well according to female LS members women are having kids well into their 40's.. Modern women with the attitude in this thread also seem to be extremely selfish.. Women spend their entire lives chasing older men when it benefits them.. Freshman want seniors, seniors want college guys, college girls want guys with a career, career girls want their bosses, etc.. UNTIL women messed around too long and find themselves 40-50, THEN they want a guy their own age or younger.. Atleast men are consistent.
melodymatters Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 I've been trying to figure out why this thread is evoking so many strong emotions. I THINK I've isolated one key point. NOBODY likes to be told that the subjective opinion of one person is FACT. Women seem to be saying " Hey, in my experience, being 40 has NOT been death knell, in fact I still find myself approached as often as in my twenties, I feel good about myself, I am attractive" Whereas many of the men who have camped on this post, seem to be MILITANT about how EVERY guy thinks, responds, places his values. Not to mention being called an easy lay ( that's the only reason we are approached), or having a "vagina that 200 guys have been in" simply because of their birth cerificate. Many of my 16 yr olds schoolmates have been with more men than I . Thats an automatic disconnect, and tends to provoke ire in readers. It's like reading TP's political posts : " I think this, this is how I see the world, therefore it must be true." Yeah, obviously MOST people, in MOST situations will naturally gravitate towards people in their own circles/peer group etc. People who want children will attempt to mate with people who also want, and are capable of bearing children, but outside of big cities, MANY 22 year olds look worse, behave worse, are less educated and succesful and happy and kind, than many woman 20 yrs older. I experience this often in the south, and therefore it MUST be true. No, it's this ONE attractive 42 yr old womans experience. You can't get angry about my personal experience, but nor am I trying to make it a blanket generalization about ALL 42 or 22 yr olds in ALL places.
sumdude Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 Well according to female LS members women are having kids well into their 40's.. Modern women with the attitude in this thread also seem to be extremely selfish.. Women spend their entire lives chasing older men when it benefits them.. Freshman want seniors, seniors want college guys, college girls want guys with a career, career girls want their bosses, etc.. UNTIL women messed around too long and find themselves 40-50, THEN they want a guy their own age or younger.. Atleast men are consistent. Sure there are women who are having kids after 40. I know some of them, thing is by the time many are 37 and up need they fertility assistance like hormone therapy. Some did finally conceive, I know one who is almost 50 about to have twins. But I've also seen the emotional and physical drain these women go through, they are my friends. I went through it with my ex and wouldn't want to go through it again if I can help it. Many eventually had to give up on the dream as my ex wife did. Some adopt or like my wife, find men who already have children that need to be mothered.
tigressA Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 I've been trying to figure out why this thread is evoking so many strong emotions. I THINK I've isolated one key point. NOBODY likes to be told that the subjective opinion of one person is FACT. Women seem to be saying " Hey, in my experience, being 40 has NOT been death knell, in fact I still find myself approached as often as in my twenties, I feel good about myself, I am attractive" Whereas many of the men who have camped on this post, seem to be MILITANT about how EVERY guy thinks, responds, places his values. Not to mention being called an easy lay ( that's the only reason we are approached), or having a "vagina that 200 guys have been in" simply because of their birth cerificate. Many of my 16 yr olds schoolmates have been with more men than I . Thats an automatic disconnect, and tends to provoke ire in readers. It's like reading TP's political posts : " I think this, this is how I see the world, therefore it must be true." Yeah, obviously MOST people, in MOST situations will naturally gravitate towards people in their own circles/peer group etc. People who want children will attempt to mate with people who also want, and are capable of bearing children, but outside of big cities, MANY 22 year olds look worse, behave worse, are less educated and succesful and happy and kind, than many woman 20 yrs older. I experience this often in the south, and therefore it MUST be true. No, it's this ONE attractive 42 yr old womans experience. You can't get angry about my personal experience, but nor am I trying to make it a blanket generalization about ALL 42 or 22 yr olds in ALL places. Thank you!!!
Johnny M Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 I've been trying to figure out why this thread is evoking so many strong emotions. I THINK I've isolated one key point. NOBODY likes to be told that the subjective opinion of one person is FACT. Women seem to be saying " Hey, in my experience, being 40 has NOT been death knell, in fact I still find myself approached as often as in my twenties, I feel good about myself, I am attractive" Ironically, you have just proven your point, though likely not in way that you intended. Older women in this thread are adamantly insisting that older age does not make them less attractive (some are even claiming that the opposite is true). That's their SUBJECTIVE OPINION that they desperately want to be treated as FACT.
melodymatters Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 Ironically, you have just proven your point, though likely not in way that you intended. Older women in this thread are adamantly insisting that older age does not make them less attractive (some are even claiming that the opposite is true). That's their SUBJECTIVE OPINION that they desperately want to be treated as FACT. Um...yeah..that subjective opinion is not fact ? Not seeing a contradiction. Was also pointing out that people who jump on soapboxes and scream, seldom seem to be the most intelligent or interesting. Whatever Johnny M, you seem to have a lot more time and energy to devote to telling woman why they ARE NOT desireable, than I have to tell you why you are illogical and annoying so... I guess you win.... ?
Johnny M Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 Whatever Johnny M, you seem to have a lot more time and energy to devote to telling woman why they ARE NOT desireable, than I have to tell you why you are illogical and annoying so... I guess you win.... ? No, the honor of victory obviously goes to you. Everyone knows that resorting to personal insults is a clear indication of high intellect and superior debating skills.
Woggle Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 There are some people of both genders who very much get more attractive as they age. As hard as I am on women I do not but into this theory that older women lose their looks or their attractiveness because it is just not true. I think that what they are on the inside starts to reflect outward. The women who thought they were better than everybody have aged badly and the sweet nerdy girls who always treated a guy well have become damn near perfect 10s. The same thing applies to men as well because everybody tells me I look better now than I did at age 25. I do wish somebody like JS would stop taking what some men say in this thread and applying it to all men though.
Barky Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 But nearly all of the men are looking for younger women. Is this typical? Ummm.. have you not heard that youth in women is highly attractive to men? That news is, like, one billion years old.
calazhage Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 Women seem to be saying " Hey, in my experience, being 40 has NOT been death knell, in fact I still find myself approached as often as in my twenties, I feel good about myself, I am attractive" . When did anyone say it is a death knell? When did anyone say women of all ages are not approached? Why the defensiveness? The OP asked a question that is based in REALITY.. Many , or perhaps MOST men prefer YOUNGER WOMEN for a LTR.. That is a FACT. Look up marriage stats if you like. She asked WHY? Men have given their reasons why, and they are told they are wrong, shallow, generalizing, etc.. Women are generally not attracted to guys who are 5ft 4 and below.. Thats life.. I am not telling women they are WRONG for their preferences. It seems many women are whining when they cannot get the exact type of guy the think they DESERVE.. What makes you females so special? If you are 45 with kids, and can't get a hot, tall, succesful male age 38-45 to marry you, then date older men. After all, if you find older men so hideous, then why can't you believe men your age or younger prefer younger as well?
Chitowngirl Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 I've been looking at some online profiles recently, just in case I ever get over my ex and decide to date again. Just looking for now. But nearly all of the men are looking for younger women. I mean I know it's a cliche but I'm kind of surprised at how often the men who are, say, 42, are looking for someone who is 28-38. Even the ones who say they don't want kids. Why is that? All of my exes have been my age or younger, not intentionally as you can't always tell how old someone is when you first meet, but it looks like if we'd crossed paths online instead, we never would have gotten together. Granted this online thing is totally new to me, but it seemed pretty consistent on the site I was visiting. Is this typical? Yes, and it's typical for men over the age of say.. 39 to lie about their age by 2-10 years. Also they will lie about their height. Actually they lie about everything so read their profiles with a grain of salt and just get their name and run a background check on them before meeting. Regarding your question, I'm not sure as I'm not a guy.
meerkat stew Posted February 18, 2010 Posted February 18, 2010 Yes, and it's typical for men over the age of say.. 39 to lie about their age by 2-10 years. Also they will lie about their height. Actually they lie about everything so read their profiles with a grain of salt and just get their name and run a background check on them before meeting. Regarding your question, I'm not sure as I'm not a guy. Men do fudge height and weight, no argument at all. It's women who lie about age though 10:1 for every man who lies about age online. Hilarious to see how many women on dating sites are "38" and very obviously much older.
sumdude Posted February 18, 2010 Posted February 18, 2010 Yes, and it's typical for men over the age of say.. 39 to lie about their age by 2-10 years. Also they will lie about their height. Actually they lie about everything so read their profiles with a grain of salt and just get their name and run a background check on them before meeting. Regarding your question, I'm not sure as I'm not a guy. Most people fudge some on dating profiles. Both men and women. Pictures that don't necessarily show the complete body. Older pictures, even pictures of other people. Being an "Occasional Smoker or drinker" which can be rationalized as "Well I don't smoke or drink constantly all day." I try to be honest in my profile, doesn't seem to help but that's how I'll keep it.
Author angelaM Posted February 18, 2010 Author Posted February 18, 2010 The OP asked a question that is based in REALITY.. Many , or perhaps MOST men prefer YOUNGER WOMEN for a LTR.. That is a FACT. Look up marriage stats if you like. She asked WHY? Actually, my question had to do with why the dating profiles I had seen indicated that a lot of men aren't even interested in meeting women who are their age or younger. This has never been my experience in real life, so I find it curious. It was mostly philosophical, though, as I've never dated online and I don't plan to. A girlfriend suggested I "see what's out there" as a way of getting over my recent breakup, so I checked it out. It is kind of amusing though.
calazhage Posted February 18, 2010 Posted February 18, 2010 Actually, my question had to do with why the dating profiles I had seen indicated that a lot of men aren't even interested in meeting women who are their age or younger. This has never been my experience in real life, so I find it curious. It was mostly philosophical, though, as I've never dated online and I don't plan to. A girlfriend suggested I "see what's out there" as a way of getting over my recent breakup, so I checked it out. It is kind of amusing though. What are you thinking? It is just some mysterious and unique online phenomenom? Men like younger women? But you had many younger EXES, so maybe it is some online thing??. Yes, I guess online guys are very unique, and it is extremely curious.. Only they like younger women..
Author angelaM Posted February 18, 2010 Author Posted February 18, 2010 What are you thinking? It is just some mysterious and unique online phenomenom? Men like younger women? But you had many younger EXES, so maybe it is some online thing??. Yes, I guess online guys are very unique, and it is extremely curious.. Only they like younger women.. Of course you're right. So let's see, heads I choose to live in the online world where men are checking my ID before they decide whether I'm worth pursuing, and tails I continue to live in the real world and interact with awesome men who don't give a sh*t about exactly how old I am. Yeah, right. I'm sold.
Awesome Username Posted February 18, 2010 Posted February 18, 2010 The real reason why all of the women on here are so angry is that there is nothing you can do to stop aging, and even if you're a young women now, it's inevitable that you will become an old woman some day. With all of these men on dating sites looking for younger women, who want it "discrete" (aka, they are married to someone their own age, probably), it's disheartening. It wouldn't hurt so much if men and women met while they were young, got attached, and grew older gracefully and with loyalty and self-restraint. It makes sense biologically that an older man would want a younger women, especially if he wants children and the women in his age range are pushing the time limit in that regard. The problem is that even if he does date the younger women, when she ages he might cast her off for another. This is why it takes so long to find a man with good morals, and even then it's hard to say whether or not that set of morals will change with time. The whole FWB culture that for some Godforsaken reason seems to be hip these days does nothing to help. The worst thing to see is young women who bash older women, or think that they are some sort of competition or a different breed. The last I heard, the fountain of youth has not been discovered yet so aside from dying young, being an old women is going to be our fate - every last one of us women. I only hope that if I find a good husband someday, he will not post some of these despicable ads looking for "discrete" romps with younger women.
Stung Posted February 18, 2010 Posted February 18, 2010 Yes, the reason is they already had a 42 year old wife. No sense in getting rid of one 42 year old to replace her with another 42 year old. Pretty simple. I hope I don't get too much crap for this post. That's terribly sad. You don't think two 42-year-old women can be different from one another? I am thirty-five, but I am not interchangeable with every other thirty-five year old on the planet. Is your age your sole defining characteristic, don't you have some kind of personality or skill to offer?
calazhage Posted February 18, 2010 Posted February 18, 2010 The real reason why all of the women on here are so angry is that there is nothing you can do to stop aging, and even if you're a young women now, it's inevitable that you will become an old woman some day. It makes sense biologically that an older man would want a younger women, especially if he wants children and the women in his age range are pushing the time limit in that regard. The problem is that even if he does date the younger women when she ages he might cast her off for another. . A. Women intitiate 70% of divorces.. The idea that men are marrying women and the "casting them off for younger women as they age" is silly and rare. B. Men know women age..But why already start with an old one is the question.. C. If age is no big deal at all, then why don't 40-45 yr old women date 50-55 yr old men?
Woggle Posted February 18, 2010 Posted February 18, 2010 The real reason why all of the women on here are so angry is that there is nothing you can do to stop aging, and even if you're a young women now, it's inevitable that you will become an old woman some day. With all of these men on dating sites looking for younger women, who want it "discrete" (aka, they are married to someone their own age, probably), it's disheartening. It wouldn't hurt so much if men and women met while they were young, got attached, and grew older gracefully and with loyalty and self-restraint. It makes sense biologically that an older man would want a younger women, especially if he wants children and the women in his age range are pushing the time limit in that regard. The problem is that even if he does date the younger women, when she ages he might cast her off for another. This is why it takes so long to find a man with good morals, and even then it's hard to say whether or not that set of morals will change with time. The whole FWB culture that for some Godforsaken reason seems to be hip these days does nothing to help. The worst thing to see is young women who bash older women, or think that they are some sort of competition or a different breed. The last I heard, the fountain of youth has not been discovered yet so aside from dying young, being an old women is going to be our fate - every last one of us women. I only hope that if I find a good husband someday, he will not post some of these despicable ads looking for "discrete" romps with younger women. I hope you do find this man you are looking for but it's not just men who throw away good spouses over nothing. I have a woman in my life who is faithful, not a misandrist and is willing to show a man that she loves him. As we age I will never leave her for another woman as long as keeps those traits.
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