calazhage Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 Some men do prefer bimbos.. and like to put down older women.. because: 1) they would be ashamed in bed with a woman who really know what sex is all about... 2) financially...they don't even come close to an older woman's ..(again... would be embarassing)... 3) intellectually... it's way easier to discuss with bimbos.. that make them look smarter.. an older woman would notice immediately how dumb he is.. It seems many older women DESPISE younger women.. Why must the be referred to as bimbos? Younger men typically are attracted to older women because they are sowing their wild oats.. Older women are far easier. As a guy I would know.. Go to a bar with 20 somethings and lucky to get a number.. Go to a bar with 40 yr old women and they are grabbing your ass as you walk by.. The same with online dating..Older=easy. As for Lizzies points, do you older women pay for younger men? So who cares if you have money.. Why would men want to be called out on being dumb by some old chick? Why would men want to marry a vagina that 200 guys used? It is ridiculous that men are being shamed for liking what comes natural.. Younger women like older men as well, so what is the issue? And I am talking about relationships and marriage, not casual sex. I doubt older women are mens number one choice, but some settle.
TaylorJayne Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 cala- You completely miss the point- its you that have stereotyped us and that is why we are defending our honor, youth, beauty and intelligence. Oh my- you certainly dont know what you're missing does he Lizzee ??? There is no way you have a point in this conversation- And I for one do not resent younger women. I have a 20 year old daughter and a 15 year old, and they are both without exageration head turners. I am so happy that they are beautiful, but more than that they are not shallow and they love life- just like their mama. Its like that Fergie song...."they got from thier mama" hahaha Life is too short to judge on age- there are too many wonderful men and women to meet of every age. Dude expand your horizons
stillafool Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 Why are women always on these threads telling men what they should want? You men like you? Telling women what they should want and do with their sex lives?
Lizzie60 Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 cala- You completely miss the point- its you that have stereotyped us and that is why we are defending our honor, youth, beauty and intelligence. Oh my- you certainly dont know what you're missing does he Lizzee ??? There is no way you have a point in this conversation- And I for one do not resent younger women. I have a 20 year old daughter and a 15 year old, and they are both without exageration head turners. I am so happy that they are beautiful, but more than that they are not shallow and they love life- just like their mama. Its like that Fergie song...."they got from thier mama" hahaha Life is too short to judge on age- there are too many wonderful men and women to meet of every age. Dude expand your horizons Agree... I do not despise younger women.. my daughter is 34.. and I adore her.. she's the most beautiful thing on earth.. and I haven't put a foot in a bar for ages.. those who grabs the young guys' asses are classless, thrashy older women who dress and act like teenagers.. and think they're coo.... I will not waste any more time arguing about this..
calazhage Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 cala- Life is too short to judge on age- there are too many wonderful men and women to meet of every age. Dude expand your horizons But it is ok for women to to judge money, status, and height? It seems women want to collectively shame men for having any preferences at all, when they have so many of their own. My points are more or less trying to help young ladies.. When they are 25-30, that is when they are most desirable. Women trying to convince them that 40-45 is the new 25 are setting them up to ruin their lives when they delay marriage, then realize men do not really want to marry women that age.
Jersey Shortie Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 No one needs your 'kindness', Jersey Shortie. The purpose of this forum is to give adults an opportunity to speak frankly about things they may not be comfortable discussing with their friends and family. Well guess what - when you engage in frank discussion, you get the honest truth. And the honest truth can sometimes be brutally so. If you want a shoulder to cry on, if you want to be reassured with comfortable falsehoods, you if want somebody to tell you that women are like fine wine and get better with age, then perhaps this forum is not the place for you. But you can always turn to your family and social circle for that kind of 'moral support'. The value of this forum lies in the fact that it awards the opportunity to gain insight by getting a better understanding of how members of the opposite sex think. That's why it's so important that people express their opinions openly, without sugarcoating or holding back out of fear of hurting somebody's feelings. Truth? Certianly this thread, and sometimes this forum, has less to do with truth and more to do with brutal. I don't think your purpose here is to offer honesty or insight. *shrug. It steams from your own demons you need to wrestle with. While we are on the subject, real truth, honesty, and insight are all good things. As is kindness, fellowship, kinderness, compassion, understanding, given and respect towards members of the opposite sex as well as your own. I think that's a lesson you have yet to learn. Out of curiosity, what do you want women to gain from telling them that they are not worthy of male attention after a certain age? That they are expendable and worthless in the eyes of men? All the while telling them that men are the best things ever as they get older. What insight do you hope will happen? What actions do you hope will happen from this "insight" you think you are sharing? Because I got to tell you, we can't stop aging. We all get older. There isn't anything any woman or man can do about it. So even if your a 20 year old female, there is no point in putting stock in men overly much if their loyatly is dependent on the factor of aging. 20 or 40, we all end up at the same place anyway. And if your 20 and dedicate your loyatly to a guy, while some men say that a man's loyatly and compassion and interest is dependent on age, then there is no point for any woman, 20 or 40, to put effort or stock overly much in anything men say or do. That's what I get out of your "insight". Basically, I should use men while I have the chance and not relay on them for things like real dedication, commitment, loyatly, companionship and passion. All those good things that all of us want to enjoy even as we age. You are basically saying men have a right to them and women don't. What insight do you hope women garner for that?
flc Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 (edited) My points are more or less trying to help young ladies.. When they are 25-30, that is when they are most desirable. Women trying to convince them that 40-45 is the new 25 are setting them up to ruin their lives when they delay marriage, then realize men do not really want to marry women that age. I would argue this a bit, I think if you want to start a family then women in this age group are more desirable. But from my experience women really come into their own both emotionaly and sexually in their 40s. They know what they want and they have a confidence that younger women lack. Edited February 17, 2010 by flc
SuburbanOblivion Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 I have had the same experience here in my latter years. When I was younger I couldn't get a date to save my life. Now all I have to do is walk down the street, or run up to the store, and I get hammered on. Men of all ages. It's the damndest thing I've ever seen. It makes sense to me Women gain a certain confidence in their 30's that they didn't have in their 20's, and every guy out there will tell you that's a huge turn-on. Your twenties is about proving to the world how sexy you are, your thirties and forties are about *knowing* it
meerkat stew Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 Yeah me too Lizzie, I never had to lift a finger. Woah, before jumping to conclusions about what this means, would like some clarification and an explanation of why the above is an important qualifier in a woman's feeling of self-worth in attracting men. Don't cop out and say it's just a figure of speech, everyone in the thread has seen it repeated twice now and knows that's not the case. If it is truly the case that lots of women hold the above attitude, they deserve exactly what they get when they start to lose their physical appeal. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
phineas Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 I'm 38 and thinking about dateing again. I don't want anymore kids but i'd consider getting married again. women in their late 20's & early 30's don't interest me because their looking for marriage & kids. Women in their early 20's were a PITA then & I'm willing to bet things havn't changed. Give me a woman my age with kids any day. I've been talking to a very hot single mom with two little ones. I wouldn't have a problem dateing her.
stillafool Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 Truth? Certianly this thread, and sometimes this forum, has less to do with truth and more to do with brutal. I don't think your purpose here is to offer honesty or insight. *shrug. It steams from your own demons you need to wrestle with. While we are on the subject, real truth, honesty, and insight are all good things. As is kindness, fellowship, kinderness, compassion, understanding, given and respect towards members of the opposite sex as well as your own. I think that's a lesson you have yet to learn. Out of curiosity, what do you want women to gain from telling them that they are not worthy of male attention after a certain age? That they are expendable and worthless in the eyes of men? All the while telling them that men are the best things ever as they get older. What insight do you hope will happen? What actions do you hope will happen from this "insight" you think you are sharing? Because I got to tell you, we can't stop aging. We all get older. There isn't anything any woman or man can do about it. So even if your a 20 year old female, there is no point in putting stock in men overly much if their loyatly is dependent on the factor of aging. 20 or 40, we all end up at the same place anyway. And if your 20 and dedicate your loyatly to a guy, while some men say that a man's loyatly and compassion and interest is dependent on age, then there is no point for any woman, 20 or 40, to put effort or stock overly much in anything men say or do. That's what I get out of your "insight". Basically, I should use men while I have the chance and not relay on them for things like real dedication, commitment, loyatly, companionship and passion. All those good things that all of us want to enjoy even as we age. You are basically saying men have a right to them and women don't. What insight do you hope women garner for that? Excellent post Jersey!
threebyfate Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 That's a fair question. I think it's because I'm pretty active and fit and I tend to gravitate toward men who are involved with the same activities, and those men have been my age or younger. But by itself, age certainly isn't a deal breaker for me, as it seems to be for the men I've seen (so far) online.Once more, keep in mind I'm putting you in these mens' shoes. Is it possible that they're having the same issues with women their own age? Is it possible that you're less concerned about what they want, more concerned that they don't want you, personally, due to your age? Not everyone has the same preferences and if you look at it logically, by restricting the ages due to online dating site limitations, they remove a subsection of the population who don't meet their criteria. If they open up their age range of interest, it potentially allows more out-of-shape women to pester them.
calazhage Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 A better question would be why would a 40 yr old single man want a woman his age or older? Either way, the man is still usually playing the provider role. A 40 yr old man does not need a woman's "life experience" to make it through the day. Since men can choose (plenty of younger women want older men), they go for the younger version with less miles.. What is so hard to believe? As for online, that medium is getting more old ladies laid than any other possible way.. A guy sits down, emails about 30 older women in about 20 minutes, then picks who he might have the best chance at sex with. Of course, when that same man wants a relationship he will change his target age to younger women.
mmk1 Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 Yes, the reason is they already had a 42 year old wife. No sense in getting rid of one 42 year old to replace her with another 42 year old. Pretty simple. I hope I don't get too much crap for this post.
1_trick_pony Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 I feel bad for all these guys who come from the land where women, dry-up, wrinkle-up, develop bad attitudes on their 40th birthday. Maybe I live in never-never land but I just don't see it. In all my social circles people date and mate individuals not stats.
Johnny M Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 I love who I am more than ever in my 40's- I look better I am more confident than ever and have never had an ounce of botox or anything remotely close. If that was true, you wouldn't be acting so defensive. As for your claim that you look better than most women 20 years your junior, even if that was true (which I seriously doubt), you would be a rare exception. And the only way you could be more attractive now than you were back in your 20s is if you lost a ton of weight. This is getting ridiculous. Are seriously trying to argue that aging makes women more attractive? Really?? I guess that explains why so many women are buying various cosmetic products that make their skin appear more wrinkly, and get plastic surgeries that make their boobs look saggier and stomachs flabbier. It also explains why all the top fashion model are in their 50s Sometimes I feel like Alice in Wonderland when I read this board. Some of you people are so delusional, you actually believe your own nonsense. I get it, women want to stay young forever, but that's no excuse for living in denial. But you're only fooling yourself.
mmk1 Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 Its not a stat, but just a variation on the old "its as easy to marry a rich man as a poor man" thing. So, all other things being equal, might as well date a younger model.
Johnny M Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 Younger men typically are attracted to older women because they are sowing their wild oats.. Older women are far easier. As a guy I would know.. Go to a bar with 20 somethings and lucky to get a number.. Go to a bar with 40 yr old women and they are grabbing your ass as you walk by.. The same with online dating..Older=easy. This has been my experience as well. If you're a reasonably good looking young man who happenes to stumble upon a 'cougar den', you'd get slobbered on, get your ass grabbed, get drinks practically shoved in your face, etc, etc. In other words, cougars behave the exact same way around hot young guys as dirty old men do around young chicks.
KevMontero Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 (edited) Hi Angela What do you consider turn on and turn offs in a man.For example Turn ons:Groomed and Turn offs: Dirty finger nails.Please help me out Edited February 17, 2010 by KevMontero
1_trick_pony Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 Its not a stat, but just a variation on the old "its as easy to marry a rich man as a poor man" thing. So, all other things being equal, might as well date a younger model. I understand but where I disagree is that all other things are never (or hardly ever equal).
MissJoness Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 If that was true, you wouldn't be acting so defensive. As for your claim that you look better than most women 20 years your junior, even if that was true (which I seriously doubt), you would be a rare exception. And the only way you could be more attractive now than you were back in your 20s is if you lost a ton of weight. This is getting ridiculous. Are seriously trying to argue that aging makes women more attractive? Really?? I guess that explains why so many women are buying various cosmetic products that make their skin appear more wrinkly, and get plastic surgeries that make their boobs look saggier and stomachs flabbier. It also explains why all the top fashion model are in their 50s Sometimes I feel like Alice in Wonderland when I read this board. Some of you people are so delusional, you actually believe your own nonsense. I get it, women want to stay young forever, but that's no excuse for living in denial. But you're only fooling yourself. I don't know what race/ethnicity the other poster is but some races don't age that much. A lot of black people can reach 40 and look the same as they did when they were younger. That could be the case with the other poster. Or maybe they just have good genes. Not everybody gets really wrinkled when tehy hit 40
In_Repair Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 While I couldn't see marrying a woman who was much older than me, age really isn't a factor for me in dating. There is a 26 year difference between the oldest and youngest women I have dated in the last year.
GorillaTheater Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 Excuse me if I had hurted anyone. Easy for you to say.
Johnny M Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 Out of curiosity, what do you want women to gain from telling them that they are not worthy of male attention after a certain age? That they are expendable and worthless in the eyes of men? All the while telling them that men are the best things ever as they get older. What insight do you hope will happen? What actions do you hope will happen from this "insight" you think you are sharing? Don't put words in my mouth. I never said or implied any of that. But to answer your question, ideally I want women to understand that they should have reasonable and realistic expectations if they want to be happy. I also want women to realize that they should go for men they can actually get, instead of living in fantasy land and pretending that aging makes them more attractive, while being a single mother is an extra bonus. Women who have unrealistically high standards and expectations inevitably fail to meet them and become disenchanted, bitter, and jaded (kind of like most women on this board). This, in turn, makes them even less attractive and feeds into the vicious circle of failure. The last thing this world needs is more miserable, bitter women. An aging woman who is still desperately cluthcing to her teenage fantasies is truly a sad spectacle. You look at a woman like that and wonder what her life could have been like if she had an ounce of common sense. Because I got to tell you, we can't stop aging. We all get older. There isn't anything any woman or man can do about it. So even if your a 20 year old female, there is no point in putting stock in men overly much if their loyatly is dependent on the factor of aging. 20 or 40, we all end up at the same place anyway. And if your 20 and dedicate your loyatly to a guy, while some men say that a man's loyatly and compassion and interest is dependent on age, then there is no point for any woman, 20 or 40, to put effort or stock overly much in anything men say or do. That's what I get out of your "insight". Basically, I should use men while I have the chance and not relay on them for things like real dedication, commitment, loyatly, companionship and passion. All those good things that all of us want to enjoy even as we age. You are basically saying men have a right to them and women don't. What insight do you hope women garner for that? I have no idea what you're trying to say here. I have never said anything remotely resembling the point that you're attributing to me in the last two sentences. I think that's your own insecurities affecting your interpretation of my posts.
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