skydiveaddict Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 Damn...I knew I was forgetting something... I'm glad I caught this in time Thank God! We always get the same speech before deployment: You WILL: Strictly follow ROE period! Act in a professional manner @ all times Have your weapon @ ALL times You WILL NOT: Violate ROE Fraternize with IP or anyone else Violate ROE period! Act in any manner as an "escort" Hire a Marine Lawyer
Author USMCHokie Posted February 16, 2010 Author Posted February 16, 2010 I'm glad I caught this in time Thank God! We always get the same speech before deployment: You WILL: Strictly follow ROE period! Act in a professional manner @ all times Have your weapon @ ALL times You WILL NOT: Violate ROE Fraternize with IP or anyone else Violate ROE period! Act in any manner as an "escort" Hire a Marine Lawyer Hahah. We joke about this all the time...if you are charged with something, keep two things in mind: (1) You know you're guilty...and (2) Hire civilian counsel...
Leia Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 Did someone mention me? No? I came here cos I thought I saw 'Marine' .... realllly? Go out and get to know some babes, Hockie [that sounds durty ]. Say hi to them but if they reply with "Please don't talk to me!" ~ you know what to do!
skydiveaddict Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 Hahah. We joke about this all the time...if you are charged with something, keep two things in mind: (1) You know you're guilty...and (2) Hire civilian counsel... Guilty? Me? You cant be serious
skydiveaddict Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 (edited) Hahah. We joke about this all the time...if you are charged with something, keep two things in mind: (1) You know you're guilty...and (2) Hire civilian counsel... Oh i get it now ,you are a Prosecutor! Edited February 16, 2010 by skydiveaddict
Author USMCHokie Posted February 16, 2010 Author Posted February 16, 2010 Did someone mention me? No? Hmmm...? Hi Leia. I came here cos I thought I saw 'Marine' .... realllly? Nooo....umm, maybe...well, it depends on whether it's a good thing or bad thing... Go out and get to know some babes, Hockie [that sounds durty ]. Say hi to them but if they reply with "Please don't talk to me!" ~ you know what to do! Hahahah. I'm workin' on it...well, not really...but I should probably start... So what do I do if they turn away from me in disgust...?
Author USMCHokie Posted February 16, 2010 Author Posted February 16, 2010 Guilty? Me? You cant be serious Hahahah. Oh i get it now ,you are a Prosecutor! No, I'm not in the courtroom right now...doing a non-legal gig at Headquarters...super fun...
skydiveaddict Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 Did someone mention me? No? I came here cos I thought I saw 'Marine' .... realllly? Go out and get to know some babes, Hockie [that sounds durty ]. Say hi to them but if they reply with "Please don't talk to me!" ~ you know what to do! Wow Hokie did ya see this one ?
skydiveaddict Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 Hahahah. No, I'm not in the courtroom right now...doing a non-legal gig at Headquarters...super fun... Thank God I thought I was in trouble for a minute
Calendula Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 But after thinking about it somemore and reading your post, I don't know whether it's actually being over my ex or my natural "fear" of dating that is keeping me away...maybe I'm just using my ex as an excuse to avoid dating...because I was never actually successful...and this seems like a safe and convenient reason for me not to say hi..or ask for a phone number... It's like the old pre-LS me is coming back... Maybe...but having finally been in a relationship after so many years of singledom, I thought I was actually a dateable guy...and that may have created an expectation that I could actually find someone...remember our conversation last night about "no expectations, no disappointments"...? It's just that frustration and disappointment coming back again...grrr... You still have to try. Perhaps this bit of perspective could help some: The first thing you have to remember about aproaching women and dating in general: Expect to fail. And do it anyway. Without practice, without trying, and without failure followed by repeated effort, we never could get good at anything. Could you have done 50 push-ups the first time you did a push-up? No. You had to start with one. Could anyone play an entire piece of music on a piano the first time they touched the keys? No, they failed, and only banged around a bit making noise. You have to try again and again, and be willing to fail again and again, in order to finally succeed. Be easy on yourself and give yourself time and practice. Start small, set small goals for yourself (I'm going to say 'Hi' and smile to three new women today) and eventually you'll get there. The second thing you have to remember about approaching women and dating in general: She doesn't know you. At all. She only knows what you look like. You could act like anyone you wanted to. Every time you meet someone new, you are re-inventing yourself through their eyes. You are picking the parts of you that you want them to see and showing them that partial picture of your personality. Forget who you think you are (shy, uncertain, quiet, self-conscious) and act like the person you want to be (confident, outgoing, talkative, assertive). Pull on the strongest parts of your personality, or the parts you know you want to strengthen (confidence, conversation ability, etc), and practice using them. If you do it enough, eventually it is who you will become.
Author USMCHokie Posted February 16, 2010 Author Posted February 16, 2010 You still have to try. Perhaps this bit of perspective could help some: The first thing you have to remember about aproaching women and dating in general: Expect to fail. And do it anyway. Without practice, without trying, and without failure followed by repeated effort, we never could get good at anything. Could you have done 50 push-ups the first time you did a push-up? No. You had to start with one. Could anyone play an entire piece of music on a piano the first time they touched the keys? No, they failed, and only banged around a bit making noise. You have to try again and again, and be willing to fail again and again, in order to finally succeed. Be easy on yourself and give yourself time and practice. Start small, set small goals for yourself (I'm going to say 'Hi' and smile to three new women today) and eventually you'll get there. The second thing you have to remember about approaching women and dating in general: She doesn't know you. At all. She only knows what you look like. You could act like anyone you wanted to. Every time you meet someone new, you are re-inventing yourself through their eyes. You are picking the parts of you that you want them to see and showing them that partial picture of your personality. Forget who you think you are (shy, uncertain, quiet, self-conscious) and act like the person you want to be (confident, outgoing, talkative, assertive). Pull on the strongest parts of your personality, or the parts you know you want to strengthen (confidence, conversation ability, etc), and practice using them. If you do it enough, eventually it is who you will become. Well, please don't get me wrong...I am hardly the shy, uncertain, or quiet guy...and I don't have any problem saying hello to a random woman and striking an impromptu inconversation...I'm a pretty sociable person and I get along with everyone I meet...I'm comfortable with the personality that I show to both friends and strangers alike... But I bolded a sentence in your post quoted above...and this was a problem I've had since I was little...it was never social awkwardness or fear of social interaction...I just never got comfortable with the way I looked growing up through grade school and even college...being the only chinaman in a predominantly white area...I admit that I played the race card like no one's business when I was younger...used it as my fallback excuse for never dating...didn't really go on dates until after college... I've gotten a lot better the past few years...probably due to my relationship with my ex...made me see that I was attractive enough to be "dateable"...and as much as I tell myself I'm doing alright (which I actually said out loud when I went to the Florida State Fair a couple weeks ago...) it's something that will probably linger in my mind forever... So from a casual conversation standpoint, I can talk to anyone and just leave it at casual conversation...but when it comes to dating prospectives, I just say to hell with it and move my ass along...reject myself before I get rejected...
Calendula Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 Well, please don't get me wrong...I am hardly the shy, uncertain, or quiet guy...and I don't have any problem saying hello to a random woman and striking an impromptu inconversation...I'm a pretty sociable person and I get along with everyone I meet...I'm comfortable with the personality that I show to both friends and strangers alike... But I bolded a sentence in your post quoted above...and this was a problem I've had since I was little...it was never social awkwardness or fear of social interaction...I just never got comfortable with the way I looked growing up through grade school and even college...being the only chinaman in a predominantly white area...I admit that I played the race card like no one's business when I was younger...used it as my fallback excuse for never dating...didn't really go on dates until after college... I've gotten a lot better the past few years...probably due to my relationship with my ex...made me see that I was attractive enough to be "dateable"...and as much as I tell myself I'm doing alright (which I actually said out loud when I went to the Florida State Fair a couple weeks ago...) it's something that will probably linger in my mind forever... So from a casual conversation standpoint, I can talk to anyone and just leave it at casual conversation...but when it comes to dating prospectives, I just say to hell with it and move my ass along...reject myself before I get rejected... Good for you. I seriously mean it. The traits I listed weren't necessarily directed to you; they were just what came to mind as what guys might claim as their weeknesses and strengths. You did say yourself that you were possibly fearful of dating and had experienced frustration and dissapointment in that area, so I figured it might help some . If your looks are something that you feel might be working against you, perhaps you could make them work in your favor. You say you've used your looks before, you can still use them. If you have a certain look, the 'chinaman' as you say, then most people would get an idea in their head that you should behave/ sound/ be a certain way, based only on your appearance. We all do it, box people up into categories based on how they look, so you might as well expect it to happen. You could take this natural tendancy people have and use it; they expect one thing and you give them another, something completely different that doesn't fit in their box, thereby inciting their curiosity and interest in you. Be who you are, the person they don't expect, and don't let their (or your) preconcieved notions of what you 'should be' define you. Besides, I think that any girl worth her weight, and your time, should be able to see past your appearance and appreciate your personality, should be able to see you as you and not just as an appearance label. If she rejects you solely on your appearance, without even at least talking to you when you say 'Hi', then you've just quickly weeded out another worthless (to you) female that you shouldn't waste your time on. I would say that was a good thing (didn't waste your time), rather than a bad thing (rejection). Don't eliminate yourself from the game, let other people work on that, just play the cards you have as well as you can.
Author USMCHokie Posted February 16, 2010 Author Posted February 16, 2010 Good for you. I seriously mean it. The traits I listed weren't necessarily directed to you; they were just what came to mind as what guys might claim as their weeknesses and strengths. You did say yourself that you were possibly fearful of dating and had experienced frustration and dissapointment in that area, so I figured it might help some . If your looks are something that you feel might be working against you, perhaps you could make them work in your favor. You say you've used your looks before, you can still use them. If you have a certain look, the 'chinaman' as you say, then most people would get an idea in their head that you should behave/ sound/ be a certain way, based only on your appearance. We all do it, box people up into categories based on how they look, so you might as well expect it to happen. You could take this natural tendancy people have and use it; they expect one thing and you give them another, something completely different that doesn't fit in their box, thereby inciting their curiosity and interest in you. Be who you are, the person they don't expect, and don't let their (or your) preconcieved notions of what you 'should be' define you. Besides, I think that any girl worth her weight, and your time, should be able to see past your appearance and appreciate your personality, should be able to see you as you and not just as an appearance label. If she rejects you solely on your appearance, without even at least talking to you when you say 'Hi', then you've just quickly weeded out another worthless (to you) female that you shouldn't waste your time on. I would say that was a good thing (didn't waste your time), rather than a bad thing (rejection). Don't eliminate yourself from the game, let other people work on that, just play the cards you have as well as you can. First of all, thanks for the responses...I always appreciate it. And you are right on the mark when you discussed people's preceived notions based on appearance. Growing up the way I did, I'm about as westernized as they come, and at this point, I have worked hard to "unfit" myself from the stereotypes of Asian guys...well, except the math one...I am good at math... Every time I see my cousins, the first thing they always say is, dude, you look huge... So I try to break the mold and give people something they don't expect, like you said... But it's not that I think I'm grossly disfigured or hideous...it's just that I grew up believing it was primarily my race that made me unattractive...because it was the only way I could explain it at such an immature age...and I'm not trying to turn this into another one of those "woe-is-me, Asian self-deprecation threads," as they are usually quite bogus. I know it's time to put away the race card for good...
Leia Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 Hmmm...? Hi Leia. Nooo....umm, maybe...well, it depends on whether it's a good thing or bad thing... Hahahah. I'm workin' on it...well, not really...but I should probably start... So what do I do if they turn away from me in disgust...? Hello Hokie Oh it's a good thing .... You should start but don't rush it, ya know? I thought YOU would know what to do!
Author USMCHokie Posted February 16, 2010 Author Posted February 16, 2010 Hello Hokie Oh it's a good thing .... You should start but don't rush it, ya know? I thought YOU would know what to do! Mornin' Leia. In that case, then yes, I might be a Marine... I'm Kelvin, like the temperature scale. And I agree, I'm definitely not Russian. [look, I made a funny! ] And yea, I think I'd know what to do...
Leia Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 Mornin' Leia. In that case, then yes, I might be a Marine... I'm Kelvin, like the temperature scale. And I agree, I'm definitely not Russian. [look, I made a funny! ] And yea, I think I'd know what to do... Morning Kelvin It wouldn't have bothered me if you were. When will you execute this plan of yours to start flirting or dating?
Author USMCHokie Posted February 16, 2010 Author Posted February 16, 2010 Morning Kelvin It wouldn't have bothered me if you were. When will you execute this plan of yours to start flirting or dating? 10 minutes ago.
Leia Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 10 minutes ago. Oh yeaaaa! Let us know how it goes
Author USMCHokie Posted February 16, 2010 Author Posted February 16, 2010 Oh yeaaaa! Let us know how it goes I certainly will! First update: So far...nothing has happened...
Leia Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 First update: So far...nothing has happened... There must be something wrong that you did Where did you meet the babe? I'm sure something will come up soon.
Author USMCHokie Posted February 16, 2010 Author Posted February 16, 2010 There must be something wrong that you did Where did you meet the babe? I'm sure something will come up soon. Hmmm...I haven't actually met anyone yet...but yea, it'll happen when it happens...
Leia Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 Hmmm...I haven't actually met anyone yet...but yea, it'll happen when it happens... :rolleyes::rolleyes: I'm sure you will meet someone or two .. or three
Author USMCHokie Posted February 16, 2010 Author Posted February 16, 2010 :rolleyes::rolleyes: I'm sure you will meet someone or two .. or three Hahah, who's rolling her eyes now...? A boy can dream...
Leia Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 Hahah, who's rolling her eyes now...? A boy can dream... Learned from the best eye-roller on LS verrry smooooth. He was, wasn't he? I caught that.
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