D-Lish Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 From my observations and life experience, women will say they choose by the face, but in reality muscles almost always win the day. It's rare to see a skinny guy with an ugly mug getting attractive women. However, it's a piece of cake finding a guy with an ugly mug and big muscles getting attractive women. You tell me what that means. It doesn't take a rocket scientist. Big muscles are pretty yucky to me, I've never been attracted to that. When it comes to someone's face, attraction isn't universal. The last guy I dated was shorter, quite pale, freckled, black hair and blue eyes- a little long in the teeth as well. I found him gorgeous, my friends thought I was crazy. The notion of beauty isn't universal. My best friend is dating a new guy that is alright looking to me- but she thinks he is beautiful. He's got an awesome personality though- and that makes a huge difference...it does make him more attractive overall. Guys with big huge muscles don't do it for me, and they never have.
You'reasian Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 sooo no mattter how hot his face is... if he aint got any muscle definition you are not going to be attracted to him? also, which part of the body do you find the most important part to be big? They would definitely not say heart. C'mon ladies, you don't wanna man with a big heart now?
Author sexysteve Posted February 13, 2010 Author Posted February 13, 2010 are you telling me that i could stay the way i am now and date the girl of my dreams
sagetalk Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 Depends on the girl. I am typically attracted to a big build with muscles and then face. I tried to date a gorgeous faced guy with no muscles, and once he took his clothes off and we were in the dark, all I could do is touch his girly arms and I wasn't attracted anymore. So for me, muscles over a face. This is true for most of the hot women I have known (not all, but most). This is why I am working out (that and to be healthy of course). I already have the face and good personality, I just need the muscles too and I'll be all set.
sagetalk Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 are you telling me that i could stay the way i am now and date the girl of my dreams If that's you in your avatar, then we are pretty much in the same boat. I might be a tad bit more muscular. You've got a pretty boy face (like me), you need to add some muscle though (like me). Don't go overboard just start doing pull ups and push ups every other day. You can get girls no problem, but you can only help your cause by adding some muscle. It will make you more appealing and give you more confidence as well. It's a win all around. You wouldn't be asking this question unless you are starting to realize there are a large amount of very attractive women that like guys with muscles, and, you are right .
Author sexysteve Posted February 13, 2010 Author Posted February 13, 2010 i think i do okay with height. im 6foot, i dont like girls that are too tall anyway...and i like them around 5'7-5'10, so its prefect for me... and yea sagetalk that is me in the avatar. also, thx for the advice. i knew it was what i had to do and it could only benefit me, how many times do u work out in a week? i work full time and study part time, so its a pretty full on for me...
bac Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 It is 50/50. But, muscles and face are not so important as a d...k/quality sex. But, money is even stronger aphrodisiac.
Author sexysteve Posted February 13, 2010 Author Posted February 13, 2010 lol thats so not true... they go for the muscles i swear
USMCHokie Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 lol thats so not true... they go for the muscles i swear No, money definitely wins out. And muscles, just like any other physical trait, only get you through the door. You need to have some semblance of a personality to stay in the house.
USMCHokie Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 Nope, just look at responses in this thread. They will almost always say their ideal is a tall guy with not too much bulk. Women seem to have a problem with muscles for the most part for some odd reason. This preference, like most of society's preferences, is partially shaped by popular culture and media...take a look at all the popular male "sex symbols" of today...they are relatively muscular, but lean and defined... Take a look at the statue of David...often known as the epitome of male physique...muscular, but lean and defined...you'll see that bulk just isn't as pleasing to the eye as the ideal standard set by David...
Author sexysteve Posted February 13, 2010 Author Posted February 13, 2010 hahahhaa okay! heres what im going to do... tonight im going to go out and im going to put my self out there, wear my best clothes and act accordingly. buy the first girl i find attractive at the bar a drink and ask her out. cuz i guess whats important is what the girl i am attracdted to likes. and i've had so many experiences where... the girls that i am attracted to are attracted to the guys with the muscles... even though i have a very cute face, very good job (accountant), nice car, working towards a good future (studying part time) and a freaking awsome personality!!! its weird huh...
USMCHokie Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 hahahhaa okay! heres what im going to do... tonight im going to go out and im going to put my self out there, wear my best clothes and act accordingly. buy the first girl i find attractive at the bar a drink and ask her out. cuz i guess whats important is what the girl i am attracdted to likes. and i've had so many experiences where... the girls that i am attracted to are attracted to the guys with the muscles... even though i have a very cute face, very good job (accountant), nice car, working towards a good future (studying part time) and a freaking awsome personality!!! its weird huh... I'd recommend not to do this right off the bat...how about you just talk to the girl first...then go from there...a lot of girls don't react too favorably to random guys buying them drinks and asking them out on the spot... You have to build a repoire with a woman first...just start with casual conversation...
USMCHokie Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 the girls that i am attracted to are attracted to the guys with the muscles... even though i have a very cute face, very good job (accountant), nice car, working towards a good future (studying part time) and a freaking awsome personality!!! its weird huh... It's not weird at all. First impressions are almost always based on physical traits...like muscles, your very cute face, clothes, etc. Those are the things that women first notice, and they are the characteristics that get you in the door. The bolded qualities above are VERY important...but they don't necessarily apply right away...they are the qualities that keep you in the house, after you've gotten the girl interested in you...
Author sexysteve Posted February 13, 2010 Author Posted February 13, 2010 sooo what kind of characteristics are we talking about here? like, who is a guy i can look upto and say yep he is my rolemodel. but again, first impressions are really important right otherwise theres nothing to start off the trigger? so i guess what you're saying is... to have the right balance is what i need to do
USMCHokie Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 sooo what kind of characteristics are we talking about here? like, who is a guy i can look upto and say yep he is my rolemodel. Yep...these are the qualities that make you a good husband and provider...things that will make her want to spend her time with you, and possibly her life... but again, first impressions are really important right otherwise theres nothing to start off the trigger? Unless there's another way you're introduced to each other, like through friends, a club, or some sort of activity, it will take a good first impression that distinguishes you from the crowd... so i guess what you're saying is... to have the right balance is what i need to do Yep, balance would be good...but just be the best person you can be...in all aspects of your life...and the most important thing is to do all those things for YOU, not for any woman...
sagetalk Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 i think i do okay with height. im 6foot, i dont like girls that are too tall anyway...and i like them around 5'7-5'10, so its prefect for me... and yea sagetalk that is me in the avatar. also, thx for the advice. i knew it was what i had to do and it could only benefit me, how many times do u work out in a week? i work full time and study part time, so its a pretty full on for me... Many girls will tell you they don't go for muscles, and most of that talk is a load of bull. If you have height, a great face, a good job, education, and muscles you have 90% of them from hello. You have most of those, add muscles and you will be thanking me I promise . Stay on the track you are on and don't let any women drag you down. Only go after women that make you a better man, not a more miserable one. It may seem like they are hard to get, but stick with it. The crazy ones are not worth it, let them go. I'm 6'0 as well, I think it's a great height. Not too tall, not too short, plus you can date tall women with long legs () and they won't feel like a giant. I'm a college instructor (great job) with a masters degree (great education), height (6'0), and I've been told I have a model's face, but I'm not muscular. I intend to change that over the next few years. It is hard for me as well, you're not alone I assure you. Go here http://www.menshealth.com/cda/contentlist.do?channel=fitness&category=workout.plans&type=article. It's Men's Health workout page. They have a ton of workouts. Pick one you like that you can fit into your schedule. Plan to do them 3-4 times a week. The results will be slow, but it's worth the effort. Make it a lifestyle.
bananaboat11 Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 Girls care about... in no particular order... face body personality intelligence penis size career path how much of each to tip the scale... varies from woman to woman... ...guys... we're ****ed
meerkat stew Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 There was a study, a good one a few years back, on general fat bell curve physical attractants of a male for women. Too lazy to google it. 1. Height 2. Handsome face 3. Over or above the woman in some way that she values socially, career, education, intelligence, humor, kind of an X factor of superiority in the man, not attitude, just factual superiority.
zebracolors Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 Of the list by Bananaboat, I would say personality, topped it for me. I was attracted to my English guy just from that before I even saw what he looked like physically. Because the first contact was through voice only. I did eventually get to see what he looks like and it was sweet icing on the cake, as he happened to have a physique and face I found attractive too. I told him he was beautiful.
Author sexysteve Posted February 14, 2010 Author Posted February 14, 2010 Many girls will tell you they don't go for muscles, and most of that talk is a load of bull. If you have height, a great face, a good job, education, and muscles you have 90% of them from hello. You have most of those, add muscles and you will be thanking me I promise . Stay on the track you are on and don't let any women drag you down. Only go after women that make you a better man, not a more miserable one. It may seem like they are hard to get, but stick with it. The crazy ones are not worth it, let them go. I'm 6'0 as well, I think it's a great height. Not too tall, not too short, plus you can date tall women with long legs () and they won't feel like a giant. I'm a college instructor (great job) with a masters degree (great education), height (6'0), and I've been told I have a model's face, but I'm not muscular. I intend to change that over the next few years. It is hard for me as well, you're not alone I assure you. Go here http://www.menshealth.com/cda/contentlist.do?channel=fitness&category=workout.plans&type=article. It's Men's Health workout page. They have a ton of workouts. Pick one you like that you can fit into your schedule. Plan to do them 3-4 times a week. The results will be slow, but it's worth the effort. Make it a lifestyle. thx dude. how do u keep motivated though>?? how old are u?
USMCHokie Posted February 14, 2010 Posted February 14, 2010 thx dude. how do u keep motivated though>?? Two things... (1) A workout partner...can't stress the importance of this one...you will make much faster progress if you have someone pushing you along... (2) Visible progress...you'll quickly notice you're getting stronger and you'll start seeing the difference in your muscle mass...that in itself will be motivation...but like sage said, it takes time...
Author sexysteve Posted February 14, 2010 Author Posted February 14, 2010 dont mind me asking how old are you guys? just curious
bananaboat11 Posted February 14, 2010 Posted February 14, 2010 I'm happy I'm a physiologist... a certified personal trainer (NSCA-cpt) and a dedicated gym rat. too bad I refuse to pick up a woman in the gym.
USMCHokie Posted February 14, 2010 Posted February 14, 2010 I had been thinking about my response to this all day on the plane, so please bear with me... There isn't a specific order or priority of qualities that a woman looks for...the most important qualities will be those that distinguish you from the rest of the population... Attracting a woman is absolutely no different from any other sort of selection process. Whether it be selecting an employee for a job, judging a bodybuilding competition, or finding a guy at the local club; the selection process is the same. Again, the most important thing is to distinguish yourself from the "competition." How you do this depends on a couple factors: (1) the information presented by the competitors, and (2) the competitors themselves. I will first illustrate with an example. Say you're trying to hire a teacher. The first factor is the information each candidate will present, which would be their resume. Therefore, the criteria important to selection would be things on that resume such as education and teaching experience. Now, keep in mind that everyone will present this same type of information. Second, the candidates themselves... Lets say you had ten firemen apply for the position and only one teacher apply. Based on the population alone, the teacher becomes MUCH more desirable. This same teacher in a group of ten other teachers, however, would not seem so special. Now let's put it in terms of attracting women. Here, the women are the "judges" while the masses of male douchebaggery at a bar or nightclub are the "competitors." The first factor is information presented. This would generally be outward appearance. Women will focus on your face and body, and perhaps your clothing and social behavior. As you can see, every guy in the bar will be "presenting" this information, so it really is the only criteria upon which women can form their initial impressions. Second factor is the population itself. If everyone in the bar has a hideous face except for you, then suddenly you're at the top of the ladder. But if everyone has a relatively attractive face, then that quality becomes a little less important. Likewise, if everyone is frail except for you, then you'll be much more likely to get noticed for muscles. But if everyone in the bar is jacked, then the importance of muscles greatly diminishes... The same thing goes for online dating, where the information presented in profiles is what women will judge you on. It all becomes a matter of figuring out how to distinguish yourself from everyone else. If it happens to be muscles, then go work out. As an Asian guy that is somewhat () in shape, I will stand out in a group of relatively frail looking Asian guys (I guess I can do alright in any crowd...)...so it becomes an important quality in distinguishing myself from the others... I deeply apologize for the long-winded response...but the bottom line is that you should work on improving every aspect of your life, because each quality you possess will be important at some stage of dating...whether it's doing the initial attraction or keeping them around long enough to marry...
USMCHokie Posted February 14, 2010 Posted February 14, 2010 dont mind me asking how old are you guys? just curious 26. I've been training for about 8 years. However, if you put me next to Rob, I will appear dainty and frail.
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