Author Twenty-ten Posted February 9, 2010 Author Posted February 9, 2010 How would you react if the genders were reversed? Be honest because I want to trash this guy but I have a feeling a feeling women would be saying you go girl if things were the other way around. I would feel the same, stupidity and lack of respect for your vows goes for both genders c'mon! Who would make an exception for a woman cheating? Well foreigners view American women as easier..Not as "better".. Two different things.. When American men talk about foreign women they picture them as better wives.. Not kinkier sexually. He even calls Nikki a booty call.. Talk about a lack of respect..I don't think he wants to marry Nikki, lol..He probably went through a lot of trouble to import his Indian wife..Good for him. Wrong, men like that guy view all women equally the same, he disrespects them all equally. Obviously as demonstrated here by his actions. A guy who does not respect women will, in the moment he finds something less than perfect with a foreign woman, find a justification to disrespect her as well. As we saw with what this guy did. He has even less respect for his wife because he made a commitment and shared vows with her so that makes him even more disrespectful towards his wife. But unfortunately men are dogs.. If easy sex is in front of them it is hard to turn down.. When the male species CAN have all the variety he wants, he is wired to take it. Just the way it is. And that right there is precisely why men who think like what you just said should be with foreign women (I feel for foreign women though) because American women will not put up with that nonsense victim sexist attitude that is created by some of you men to excuse temptations you are too weak to overcome. Maybe with the language barrier you can get away with convincing a foreign woman that it's kosher to think like that because no local woman in her right mind would buy your ridiculous excuse.
tami-chan Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 Amen! Ok but if his wife was so great, and he was in love with her... then why did he cheat on her with an american woman? If this foreign woman was so much better than an American woman, why did he stray? Because he can apparently compartmentalize...there is the woman he loves and" respects", whom he will with forever(most likely) and then there is Nykki (with a Y )-his favorite "buddha" call.... He says it right there-Nykki is a booty call.
Author Twenty-ten Posted February 9, 2010 Author Posted February 9, 2010 (edited) Because he can apparently compartmentalize...there is the woman he loves and respects, You clearly don't know what love and respect means then. A man who loves and respects a woman will not sleep around on her and make a public spectacle of her sexual intimacies to cover his own cheating ass. He has neither of those things you mentioned for anyone, not even himself. He says it right there-Nykki is a booty call. A booty call he was going to take to a special night out over taking his own wife and was writing a special note for when winning a supposed "prize". What love and respect are you talking about exactly? LOL Edited February 9, 2010 by Twenty-ten
tami-chan Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 Wrong, men like that guy view all women equally the same, he disrespects them all equally. Obviously as demonstrated by his actions. A guy who does not respect women will, in the moment he finds something less than perfect with a foreign woman, find a justification to disrespect her as well. As we saw with what this guy did. He has even less respect for his wife because he made a commitment and shared vows with her so that makes him even more disrespectful towards his wife. I agree with this. This man disrespected his wife and Nykki-although, I have this nagging feeling that Nykki might have been fine with it.
calizaggy Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 You clearly don't know what love and respect means then. A man who loves and respects a woman will not sleep around on her and make a public spectacle of her sexual intimacies to cover his own cheating ass. He has neither of those things you mentioned for anyone, not even himself. Huh? A man really can love a woman and still get a bj from Nikki. If he felt American women were better at anything (except bj's) he would have found a wonderful American wife instead of importing one..
Woggle Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 I apologize if I misjudged you but you did come across as the type who would high five a cheating woman for turning the tables on men. I admit I have serious trust issues with women but I would never cheat on one.
Author Twenty-ten Posted February 9, 2010 Author Posted February 9, 2010 I agree with this. This man disrespected his wife and Nykki-although, I have this nagging feeling that Nykki might have been fine with it. Oh ok pheeewww! You were being sarcastic with your last post then, I misunderstood and didn't catch the irony then!
tami-chan Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 You clearly don't know what love and respect means then. A man who loves and respects a woman will not sleep around on her and make a public spectacle of her sexual intimacies to cover his own cheating ass. Maybe not, as I am a foreign woman . Actually, I forgot to put the quotes on respect and "rolling eyes" after...and have since corrected it (sans the rolling eyes). lol...meow.:rolleyes:
Author Twenty-ten Posted February 9, 2010 Author Posted February 9, 2010 Huh? A man really can love a woman and still get a bj from Nikki. And on that note, with that we conclude our show! Some Brazillian girls is sooo lucky! :eek:!!!
Author Twenty-ten Posted February 9, 2010 Author Posted February 9, 2010 Maybe not, as I am a foreign woman . Actually, I forgot to put the quotes on respect and "rolling eyes" after...and have since corrected it (sans the rolling eyes). lol...meow.:rolleyes: Sorry, I didn't realize you were being sarcastic. I've heard people make that argument on a serious note before.... Want some catnip? (peace offering)
EricaH329 Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 Huh? A man really can love a woman and still get a bj from Nikki. If he felt American women were better at anything (except bj's) he would have found a wonderful American wife instead of importing one.. Really? No, really? Do you understand what you just posted? I apologize if I misjudged you but you did come across as the type who would high five a cheating woman for turning the tables on men. I admit I have serious trust issues with women but I would never cheat on one. I admire you for that. Through the issues you have with women, you still are able to respect them. Good for you!! And on that note, with that we conclude our show! Some Brazillian girls is sooo lucky! :eek:!!! :lmao: The more calizaggy posts, the more I wish I was that Brazillian chick!!
Author Twenty-ten Posted February 9, 2010 Author Posted February 9, 2010 (edited) I apologize if I misjudged you but you did come across as the type who would high five a cheating woman for turning the tables on men. I admit I have serious trust issues with women but I would never cheat on one. It's ok apology accepted. Just because I support women being liberated if that is what makes them happy that does not mean I don't support the fact that when people make a commitment to one another they should both honor it. I believe in commitment and fidelity from both genders. No double standards. Edit: I agree with Erica, that was very big of you to disclose that here Woggle! I admire that despite you've had your issues with women you would never cheat, that is a very admirable quality. I am sure your wife really appreciates you and you her! Edited February 9, 2010 by Twenty-ten
Woggle Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 I doubt my wife appreciates it because despite me being faithful I have my heart guarded like Fort Knox and I am terrified of taking those defenses down. I sometimes do envy players because I used to do everything women claimed to want in a man and get crapped all over because of it and quite honestly I did interpret your posts in other thread as saying that men like me deserve it because it is payback time.
tami-chan Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 well, IMHO, Woggle does not cheat not because he respects women (even though he probably does), I think he does not cheat because he values his words (vows).
calizaggy Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 Really? No, really? Do you understand what you just posted? QUOTE] Yes, I said a man can love a woman and still get a bj.. 100% true in all cases. Now would I cheat? Is it morally acceptable or right? Different questions. You can see this man mentions Nikki as nothing more than an American tramp, or booty call. He is not confusing sex and love in anyway.
Author Twenty-ten Posted February 9, 2010 Author Posted February 9, 2010 I doubt my wife appreciates it because despite me being faithful I have my heart guarded like Fort Knox and I am terrified of taking those defenses down. I sometimes do envy players because I used to do everything women claimed to want in a man and get crapped all over because of it and quite honestly I did interpret your posts in other thread as saying that men like me deserve it because it is payback time. Woggle, you are mixing apples and oranges here. In that thread we were discussing can women have casual sex like men do, if they are single? I agreed that some women have mastered having emotionless sex with men, as men have done so over the years. Some of the men were arguing that women shouldn’t do that because it lessens their worth and to that my response was that a woman in that situation is no less worthy than a man who does the same thing. I do feel that men complaining about women having casual sex, are out of line. We all know that promiscuous people are not desired in either gender, but to look down on a woman for having unattached sex from time to time is hypocritical at best. Having said all that, in a marriage or a committed relationship there is no room for sex outside the partnership unless you lead a swinger’s lifestyle. So why in the world would I wish infidelity upon a man in a committed relationship because I support women being liberated sexually? That doesn’t even make sense. The reason you thought I sounded like the women in your office or that I advocate cheating on a man, I think has more to do with the fact that you admit you simply distrust all women, than it does with what I was actually saying in the other thread. Men like you, if you say you respect and are good to women, deserve to have a woman who is just as good to you and who also respects you. I believe that is what you have anyway.
Author Twenty-ten Posted February 9, 2010 Author Posted February 9, 2010 (edited) I think he does not cheat because he values his words (vows). Very interesting to see things like that, I would agree! I would also add to that, a person who is true to their actions and values their word has self respect. Edited February 9, 2010 by Twenty-ten
EricaH329 Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 Yes, I said a man can love a woman and still get a bj.. 100% true in all cases. Now would I cheat? Is it morally acceptable or right? Different questions. You can see this man mentions Nikki as nothing more than an American tramp, or booty call. He is not confusing sex and love in anyway. I do not understand this. With love comes respect. If you love someone, you respect them. If a man were to cheat on me, there is no way in hell I would believe for one second that they love me, since they clearly do not respect me. See what i'm saying?
Author Twenty-ten Posted February 9, 2010 Author Posted February 9, 2010 I do not understand this. With love comes respect. If you love someone, you respect them. If a man were to cheat on me, there is no way in hell I would believe for one second that they love me, since they clearly do not respect me. See what i'm saying? No he won't see what you are saying Erica, he has some cockamamie idea that you can love a woman and still get bjs on the side from another woman. Yes, I said a man can love a woman and still get a bj.. 100% true in all cases.A woman can do that too, how many women "love" their men and get serviced on the side?! What is your point? Cheating is cheating is cheating and it is not gender specific.
EricaH329 Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 No he won't see what you are saying Erica, he has some cockamamie idea that you can love a woman and still get bjs on the side from another woman. True! I won't even bother trying to explain something that he clearly will not understand. A woman can do that too, how many women "love" their men and get serviced on the side?! What is your point? Cheating is cheating is cheating and it is not gender specific. Agreed!!
Author Twenty-ten Posted February 9, 2010 Author Posted February 9, 2010 Calizaggy's line of reasoning is typical of what a cheater pulls on their mates when justifying their actions. "I love you, I really do. It was only sex it meant nothing. I love you but I only had meaningless sex with them" :rolleyes:
EricaH329 Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 Calizaggy's line of reasoning is typical of what a cheater pulls on their mates when justifying their actions. "I love you, I really do. It was only sex it meant nothing. I love you but I only had meaningless sex with them" :rolleyes: Such a lame excuse. Who actually falls for that?
Author Twenty-ten Posted February 9, 2010 Author Posted February 9, 2010 Such a lame excuse. Who actually falls for that? Apparently "foreign women" do! Brazillian women to be exact. Or at least that is what some guys around here would have us believe...
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