Barky Posted February 6, 2010 Posted February 6, 2010 wow, that's old school. Always wanted to get my hands on some spanish fly. Irritates the urethra, which can cause horniness and/or a severe medical reaction What the hell, I'd give it a shot.
meerkat stew Posted February 6, 2010 Posted February 6, 2010 wow, that's old school. Always wanted to get my hands on some spanish fly. Irritates the urethra, which can cause horniness and/or a severe medical reaction What the hell, I'd give it a shot. You don't hear much about the ole Spanish Fly these days. They say they have a new safer version, they call it "ecstasy," but I wouldn't know anything about that.
Greenpeacer Posted February 6, 2010 Posted February 6, 2010 (edited) Congrats, I also prefer no alcohol nor drugs.. Its way healthier. //Just remember 35 minutes is way too slow.// I try and draw it out even stopping myself so that she can have 2 or 3 per night. It takes longer and more of a work out but they love me more I stopped using porn to compare and stopped all that hitting and pulling myself. I used to play football So i used to like to hit but no more. Often the older the more techniques from my experience. I've always been more mature but I like all women. Yet I do find the older the more we can talk about life and that's what keeps me interested in the long run and more sex. Communication and learning from each other. Not sure if this applies in this case..Without that there is no relationship and no turn ons for me and no more sex.Or its called empty sex by some. I prefer a deep connection emotionally spiritually not just physically Im an ENFJ Hope this helps. Edited February 6, 2010 by Greenpeacer Typos and aditional thougts
sally4sara Posted February 6, 2010 Posted February 6, 2010 2. I didn't want to get into details because I thought it might be too graphic for the forum, but I will now: I like to pull hair; roll around the carpet; I love a good rider when it's cowgirl; pick her off her feet and have sex with her while I'm holding her; dirty words; I like a lot of yelling; a ton of grinding; lip-biting; smack her butt while I'm in doggy-style; and a lot of other good stuff. It's like this: I'll go rough or slow, but she sometimes starts to complain, "That's too hard." She doesn't really like to have sex on the spur of the moment, it's usually that she needs to change into something first. I think she's self-conscious about her pregnancy scar because she got a tattoo to hide it, and whenever she's standing in front of me naked, she has her hands over the lower part of her stomach. Or sometimes she might get naked and then immediately underneath the covers. Is she afraid of something? Not everyone likes the pain element. How would you like it if you were the one getting smacked around and your hair pulled on? How about being called names the whole time you filthy suck toy? Carpet burns fella! And cowgirl is the least stimulating position for a woman under the sun! You can't even fiddle with your diddle because you have to prop yourself up the whole time! You sound like you like porn style sex and I hate to break it to you but the sex you see in porn where the women take a pounding and moaning like a Scotch cow with fake pleasure might get served up by younger ladies who haven't realized they too are entitled to some pleasure out of sex rather that just putting on a show and resigning to faking an orgasm. It is a very good possibility that your bedroom skills are only as good as the girls who pretended to enjoy them have lead you to believe. You're complaining because you are dealing with a woman who is trying to show you how to please HER, not some porn star. Maybe you need to work on some more realistic skills. Some of that stuff can be fun, but not just that stuff and not for everyone. Ask her if she has had a hysterectomy or something similar. The vaginal walls thins with age making rough sex less pleasurable and more painful. And if you're not ringing her bell, she won't be as into it.
Author St. Nick Posted February 6, 2010 Author Posted February 6, 2010 Thanks meerkat, I'm not smacking her. I'm smacking the side of her ass during doggy. And it's not like I'm pounding her; the smack I give her is like when you're laughing and you smack the side of your leg or someone else's leg. It's not a heavy smack, but's a gentle but significant smack. And I only pull hair because several of my ex-gfs told me they liked it. One even said she had a hard time getting an orgasm in doggy without hair-pulling. You may be right about these posters having a go at me. I actually had a little anxiety when I read it was "abusive bad porn sex" so bad that I called an ex and asked her if she thought our sex was abusive. She told me that although she still hated me, she told me that the sex was the one thing she still liked about me, and her last dude wasn't nearly as good as me. That was good to hear. So I do think you're right; they are having a go at me. I don't think I should have to keep slowing down, checking her pupils with a flashlight, and using a Spanish fly to get her to move. If some other guys find older women to be great in bed, more power to them. It's just not the case with me. I also think this argument that an older woman is naturally more sexually experienced than a younger woman is bull. When I described our sexual adventures to my old girlfriend she said it was kinky not abusive. I have serious questions to ask the older women on this forum: 1. If you guys are naturally more sexually experienced than why are you so squeamish about the stuff my ex-gfs liked to do? 2. If you could teach me a thing or two from your sexual experiences then this stuff wouldn't seem so shocking to you, would it? P.S. meerkat, I'll do like greenpeace said and cut out the smacking and pulling. But I still believe it's not sex without sweat dripping down your nose, and I've never had sweat dripping down my nose when I'm with an older woman.
anne1707 Posted February 6, 2010 Posted February 6, 2010 It's not that "us older women" are squeamish. It's just that we are not all into the same kind of thing. Some will like the slapping and hair pulling and some won't. Some will like it on some occasions but not on others. Sometimes a woman wants a good hard f*** and sometimes a woman wants slow gentle love making. Variety is the key By the way - I only had a mini-bash at you in my earlier post because you were automatically writing off ALL older women. Not on.
meerkat stew Posted February 6, 2010 Posted February 6, 2010 Sometimes it's unclear, and you may be just playing back at me, but the concussion and Spanish Fly talk was all in jest. As far as sweat dripping off your nose, try focusing more on what it takes to get her going early than stuff like that. Once you have a woman who can come every 3-5 minutes during sex due to your understanding her buttons, you will have a much more sexually enthusiastic and active woman on your hands who will probably be up for all kinds of different things you want to do.
sally4sara Posted February 6, 2010 Posted February 6, 2010 I called an ex and asked her if she thought our sex was abusive. She told me that although she still hated me, she told me that the sex was the one thing she still liked about me, and her last dude wasn't nearly as good as me. why are you so squeamish about the stuff my ex-gfs liked to do? You only called one ex. You boasted earlier about many past partners. So you're going to go with the one person's input why? Is it only because it was favorable? Ask the woman you're having sex with because advise on sex with her and what she will like can only come from her and not from the people who are no longer willing to have sex with you anymore.
Author St. Nick Posted February 6, 2010 Author Posted February 6, 2010 anne1707, I was writing off all older women because me and many guys I know haven't had any memorable sexual experience with an older woman that indicates they can compete with a younger girl in bed. It's look like when women get older they lose their stamina and endurance (that's if they ever had it). sally4sara, I wasn't boasting about my sexual past. I was explaining why I would come to the conclusion that older women are lame in bed by showing how many women I've slept with to correlate. If someone has had more or less sexual partners, who cares? That's not my business. I'm just trying to explain my situation. Also, I called my ex-gf to get another woman's opinion who I've actually had sex with on my sex game. That was a good way to know about my sex game, cuz she's already screwed me, and can evaluate. Another good way to know is by asking the older woman I'm currently with about my sex game (which I just did an hour ago). The result: pornographic--yes; abusive--no. People have been lip-biting and talking dirty during sex long before I was born. That's not abusive at all. The hair-pulling may a little too wild, and if she doesn't like it then I'll let it go. A slap on the side of the ass during doggy abusive? Please. You act like I'm Max Hardcore. Slaps across the face, choking, putting my boot on her head during doggy, tying her up, etc. are abusive acts that are considered way too extreme by my standards. Anybody who thinks the stuff I like to do is abusive obviously isn't sexually experienced, and has no business acting like she is, irregardless of age. Hey meekrat, thanks for the advice. I'll be over at her place in a little bit and I wanted to let you know I'll even try a dildo, take it slow, and try my hardest to see what she likes. But I have a question: what if she likes it, but it's still boring and there's no heart-pumping, sweat-dripping thrill at all? Is it still my fault, or do you think it's okay to write her off and say yes she is a dud?
anne1707 Posted February 6, 2010 Posted February 6, 2010 It's look like when women get older they lose their stamina and endurance (that's if they ever had it). You are so unbelievably wrong on this
You'reasian Posted February 6, 2010 Posted February 6, 2010 You are so unbelievably wrong on this I second that. Women with more experience seem to have more and more intense orgasms than younger ones as well....and they like to bang more too
meerkat stew Posted February 6, 2010 Posted February 6, 2010 Vibrator, not dildo. And the only reason I mentioned it is to see what makes her come fastest and hardest, not as an end in itself. The fastest easiest way IME is to work on her with a vibrator with the right manual clitoral stimulation and some kissing, and also watching her masturbate. You are the student here, not the teacher, at least until you know how to hit her buttons, then you can take a more assertive role and work what you want into an equation that both of you enjoy. Before you can decide if she is a dud or not, you have to see her at her best, which is having an orgasm every 5ish minutes. Now some are just not capable of that, NBD, if you can get her to come regularly in accordance to her body and limits, you will see her at her best then can decide about compatibility. Some women take lots of time to truly get comfortable and drop all inhibitions regardless of age.
Crazy Magnet Posted February 6, 2010 Posted February 6, 2010 Before you can decide if she is a dud or not, you have to see her at her best, which is having an orgasm every 5ish minutes. Now some are just not capable of that, NBD, if you can get her to come regularly in accordance to her body and limits, you will see her at her best then can decide about compatibility. Some women take lots of time to truly get comfortable and drop all inhibitions regardless of age. Lord I want to be THAT woman..... The whole sweat dripping off your nose thing doesn't mean it's good sex, it means it's sweaty sex. If that's all you like, and all you aim to do in bed, it makes you a one trick pony. Women are all different and we all take different ponies to be satisfied. Yes, you will score big with women who also like that style only, but with women who enjoy or are used to more variety, they aren't going to enjoy sleeping with you as much. What I see a lot of in this thread is "I like this...I like that...." but I have seen none of, "She likes this, and when I tried it, it still wasn't better." You've got to ask her what she wants and what gets her motor going. And I second whoever said it takes some women longer to totally let go with sex.
meerkat stew Posted February 6, 2010 Posted February 6, 2010 Lord I want to be THAT woman..... ...must resist obvious, cliche' internet posturing opportunity... must resist obvious, cliche' internet posturing opportunity... must resist... :lmao:
tigereyes1428 Posted February 7, 2010 Posted February 7, 2010 what you are describing is ****ing perhaps she wants you to make love? the best lover is the ones that can do both
You'reasian Posted February 7, 2010 Posted February 7, 2010 Women will climax from both - just depends on the mood of the two of you which path you wanna go at the moment.
tigereyes1428 Posted February 7, 2010 Posted February 7, 2010 totally - also i have been thinking about this - and i think it would put me off knowing your expectations about evry time you have sex - jesus sometimes the laziest in mornings etc are the bet - dont get me wrong - i also believe its confidence - a woman has to be very confident in herself and her ability to please her man by riding the life out of him :-)
You'reasian Posted February 7, 2010 Posted February 7, 2010 totally - also i have been thinking about this - and i think it would put me off knowing your expectations about evry time you have sex - jesus sometimes the laziest in mornings etc are the bet - dont get me wrong - i also believe its confidence - a woman has to be very confident in herself and her ability to please her man by riding the life out of him :-) ..........
soulm8 Posted February 7, 2010 Posted February 7, 2010 Meerkat is on the ball. Foreplay, pressing her buttons and teasing *should* have a woman literally begging... and the best sex IMO is when you combine making love with fu*cking.
Author St. Nick Posted February 7, 2010 Author Posted February 7, 2010 The relationship isn't working out. Sex is boring with her. I've never had this problem about how to have pleasing sex before, so it's her fault not mine. I just hope the next guy can live being in a relationship with a woman who is about as exciting in bed as watching Dr. Zhivago in slow motion.
tigereyes1428 Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 maybe she has not had this problem before either?
Chrome Barracuda Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 dude your 25. 25!!!! She may be closed off because she's not used to a guy like you ramming her to death. She may like it slow and soft. Have you tried putting it in her butt. lol. If she doesnt like that? or isnt into adventurous sweaty sex? then what's the point?
sumdude Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 I haven't seen a single thread on LS that ever said "I wish he'd abuse me more". Well OK, not 'abusive' but some women do like it rough ... at least at times.
Author St. Nick Posted February 10, 2010 Author Posted February 10, 2010 maybe she has not had this problem before either? Who cares? I was trying to fix the present, not the past. dude your 25. 25!!!! She may be closed off because she's not used to a guy like you ramming her to death. She may like it slow and soft. Have you tried putting it in her butt. lol. If she doesnt like that? or isnt into adventurous sweaty sex? then what's the point? My point is that folks in this thread were telling me that women gain more endurance and stamina as they get older; and the common myth is that older women are more sexually experienced. I've fond that stuff not to be the case and I was wondering why and how to fix it. It seems strange how she has to keep up with me when she's supposed to have increased stamina and endurance. But who cares? I'm over it. Well OK, not 'abusive' but some women do like it rough ... at least at times. True. Anyway, thanks for the remarks and help everyone, especially meerkat. You've been helpful. There's no need to post in this thread anymore cuz the problem's solved.
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