Chicago_Guy Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 I was just thinking about this - I used to watch Saved By The Bell when I was a kid. One of the characters was Screech Powers, an uber-dork who annoyed the hell out of all of the other characters, although the "cool kids" hung out with him for some reason. Is Screech the stereotypical "nice guy"? He had a crush on Lisa Turtle, one of the other main characters, for years and would frequently buy her gifts, tell her she was beautiful, and generally kissed her ass. He may have also done her homework, although I could be mistaken about that. Despite giving Lisa constant attention, Screech never got anywhere with her and she was always rude to him and made fun of him. I also seem to recall that Lisa even dated Screech's two best guy friends, Zack and Slater, who barely even exerted any effort to get her. Screech would frequently get frustrated and annoyed when Lisa would reject him, yet he would not give up in his quest to win her over.
greatgirlfriend Posted February 3, 2010 Posted February 3, 2010 I hope not because in real life he's hated by the other cast members (and I think the others get along with each other). I'd rather take Zack and AC (and prefer both )
D-Lish Posted February 4, 2010 Posted February 4, 2010 His character was a loser, and he's a loser in real life.
hersmudders Posted February 4, 2010 Posted February 4, 2010 he was more of a doormat than a nice guy. don't get the two confused.
BG1985 Posted February 4, 2010 Posted February 4, 2010 Nice Guy is the PC term for Doormat. I think Doormat and Nice Guy are interchangeable.
hersmudders Posted February 4, 2010 Posted February 4, 2010 Nice Guy is the PC term for Doormat. I think Doormat and Nice Guy are interchangeable. i disagree. i think you can have both!
knaveman Posted February 4, 2010 Posted February 4, 2010 I was called "Screech" in high school because I was tall and skinny and had the same curly hair. I probably resembled him physically more than I would like to admit. I was also much like him in character, minus the "cool" friends. I was the nice guy doormat for most of my life. I was, and am still, a dork. Loser. Pathetic. Nerd. Whatever. I've also learned that people like that, like myself, have issues. We lack self-esteem. We are doormats because we think that is how people will like us. If I'm nice how can anyone not like me? If I do everything she says she wants why wouldn't she want me? Screech is not "nice" he's just as manipulative as everyone else, just in a more pathetic way than everyone else. Some guys think that they can get girls with force. Some think they can get girls with douchebaggery. Some think they can get girls with niceness. Different sides of the same coin. However, equating Hollywood life to real life is a recipe for fail. Hollywood is in no way connected to real life, never was and never will be. If Hollywood was the same as real life why would anyone bother watching?
torranceshipman Posted February 4, 2010 Posted February 4, 2010 Nice Guy is the PC term for Doormat. I think Doormat and Nice Guy are interchangeable. Sheesh-what twisted logic. Nice guy means nice guy - a nice person. Doormat means someone who is pathetic and gets walked on. Doormats / losers probably prefer to think of themselves as a 'nice guy' and then say 'girls don't go for nice guys' to make themselves feel better. Being a nice guy is a really great thing and they're a commodity as there arent many around. My boyfriend is a really nice guy and thats why I'm so crazy about him.
hersmudders Posted February 4, 2010 Posted February 4, 2010 Sheesh-what twisted logic. Nice guy means nice guy - a nice person. Doormat means someone who is pathetic and gets walked on. Doormats / losers probably prefer to think of themselves as a 'nice guy' and then say 'girls don't go for nice guys' to make themselves feel better. Being a nice guy is a really great thing and they're a commodity as there arent many around. My boyfriend is a really nice guy and thats why I'm so crazy about him. Couldn't have said this better myself. And I also have a nice guy for a boyfriend, but he's far from a doormat.
BG1985 Posted February 4, 2010 Posted February 4, 2010 When I hear "nice guy" I think of "doormat." The way I see it is saying that a guy is a "nice guy" is equivalent to saying that the fat/ugly girl has a great personality. What torranceshipman and hersmudders consider to be nice guys I consider to be normal guys. Most people I know are pretty nice at the very least. To a lot of guys, the term nice guy has a very negative connotation.
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