allina Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 Yup, I know Why do you get such satisfaction from women agreeing with you?
sedgwick Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 If a male freind and wife of my best freind who loves me speaks of me like this i cant be attractive.. Im glad i dont apprach women and save myself embarrasment of rejection Call me crazy, but I totally thought beauty was in the eye of the beholder! I've been informed several times that my ex was unattractive, but to me he was the most beautiful man in the world. A good friend has a boyfriend I think is ugly, but she thinks he's the sexiest man she's ever been with. I've had guys tell me I was too fat, and others who tell me my body is beautiful. I've met guys who don't like tattoos and guys who think they're the sexiest thing ever. A man on the bus once stopped his rant about Jesus to tell me my dreadlocks were ugly, and actually said to me, "Do you WANT to be ugly?" But I was with a guy who got ridiculously turned on by them because he could pull on them when we did it doggie-style (forgive the TMI.) My point is that there is nothing EVERYBODY considers ugly (except maybe a giant hole in one's flesh caused by necrotizing fascitis or something), and nothing EVERYBODY considers beautiful.
USMCHokie Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 Why do you get such satisfaction from women agreeing with you? Because he thinks it validates his beliefs.
sedgwick Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 I would just like to add, on the topic of the height thing, that Jon Stewart is one of the sexiest men alive. Why? Because he's smart and funny. There's no way I'd ever refuse to f*ck him just because some other dude was taller. He's dwarfed by every male guest I've ever seen on his show, but damn if I wouldn't pick him over any of them, any day. It seems like so many guys here are hung up on height, and I just don't get it at all. My boyfriends have ranged from 5'5" to 6'4", and I've been attracted to all of them. If all it took to be sexy was height, Dennis Rodman would be the sexiest man alive, and I think we all know how wrong THAT is.
OpenGL Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 Why do you get such satisfaction from women agreeing with you? Daily confirmations of my beliefs.
OpenGL Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 Because he thinks it validates his beliefs. Thinks? How do women not validate my points every single day?
allina Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 Daily confirmations of my beliefs. And where does that get you other than lonelier and more bitter?
OpenGL Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 And where does that get you other than lonelier and more bitter? It does get me lonelier and more bitter, I have no problem admiting that.
paddington bear Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 The first thing that struck me about this post was 'what kind of mean friends does this poor guy have?' - that wasn't a very nice thing to repeat back to you. Or maybe they are so secure about themselves that it is 'oh we're just joking around, it's not going to have any effect on him' when in fact it does. Anyway, beauty is indeed in the eye of the beholder: One friend, tall blonde, pretty in a very sweet way with big blue eyes. Kept going on and on about this guy that she'd developed a serious crush on and how he looked like Johnny Depp. I finally met him. He was very small (smaller than my 5 foot 5 and a half inches), looked really unhealthy with dark circles under his eyes, and not in the least bit like Johnny Depp. But she was crazy about him (as a side note, there was a tall, attractive girl in love with a small guy). Me: Obsessed with a big, tall guy with natural large muscles, assumed that everyone would be so 'oh my God that guy is so good looking' about him. Non-plussed, was the response I got from friends, that he just looked like a normal guy, not ugly, not gorgeous, but to me he was the pinnacle of beauty. and finally, another friend, kept going on and on about how good looking her ex-boyfriend was and how when they dated that she felt so lucky that someone that looked like him would choose her. Met the guy and I found him grossly unattractive. Different strokes for different folks - oh and couples often play this game 'if you didn't have wonderful me, who would you go for?' from their smug couple secure base. Just ignore it. And find some new friends who don't basically insult you to your face, it really isn't very nice or helpful.
Author PJKino Posted January 22, 2010 Author Posted January 22, 2010 And find some new friends who don't basically insult you to your face, it really isn't very nice or helpful. It wasnt to my face,it was another friend who happened to be there who told me
OpenGL Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 One friend, tall blonde, pretty in a very sweet way with big blue eyes. Kept going on and on about this guy that she'd developed a serious crush on and how he looked like Johnny Depp. I finally met him. He was very small (smaller than my 5 foot 5 and a half inches), looked really unhealthy with dark circles under his eyes, and not in the least bit like Johnny Depp. But she was crazy about him (as a side note, there was a tall, attractive girl in love with a small guy). Never happened. Me: Obsessed with a big, tall guy with natural large muscles, assumed that everyone would be so 'oh my God that guy is so good looking' about him. Happened.
paddington bear Posted January 23, 2010 Posted January 23, 2010 Never happened. Happened. Oh for God's sakes. OK, sorry, I admit it, I made that story up, just to pretend that taller girls get hot crushes over smaller guys sometimes, because let's face it, in reality that never, ever, ever, ever, happens (never) - Tom Cruise with Katy Holmes? All those photos have been photoshopped to stretch her out. That friend of mine who is 5 foot 9 who had a crush on a 5 foot 4 guy? Well, I must have put my 'this cannot be reality' glasses on that day. I just put that little story in there so that you or one of the others could catch me out with my blatant lying about an incident that I obviously didn't not experience or observe, because of course, I realise it's very important that you live in your own little bubble world where your experiences are validated, and everyone else's are invalidated. To be serious for a moment. Why would I lie about something like that? Why? What purpose would that serve? To give short men false hope? It's not false hope, because it wasn't a lie. If you personally had one experience, and perhaps repeatedly, then at least allow that the millions of other people in the world may have experienced the contrary. The point was that different people perceive beauty or attraction from different traits. If that has not been your experience, well then move away from the bunch of facile, Hollywood looks-obsessed bunch of idiotic women who's rejection of you seems to have f***ed you right up. There are other types of women out there, you just haven't found them, and right now are not willing to admit they exist, which is sad really, as it will be your loss in the end for tarring all women with the same brush. (PS the tall muscular guy didn't want me back by the way, probably because I'm not size 00 with massive fake breasts, blonde hair with hair extensions, a rat-sized dog in a bag, pink lipstick on collagen lips and the sexual appetite of a rabbit - works both ways).
allina Posted January 23, 2010 Posted January 23, 2010 It does get me lonelier and more bitter, I have no problem admiting that. So why not focus on all the women who tell you that they have dated or are dating a shorter man. Countless women, myself included, have stated that we would date and love a shorter guy. But instead of listening, you disregard us and continue with your pitty party
paddington bear Posted January 23, 2010 Posted January 23, 2010 It wasnt to my face,it was another friend who happened to be there who told me sorry - I meant that, this friend who repeated it back to you, wasn't really necessary was it? I know it doesn't seem that way now, but just take a look around you at all the couples you see around you in every age bracket and assess how many are stunning looking. Gorgeous looking people are the exception. Observe that there are not-so good looking people either in couples or married...and maybe you are not ugly at all. Don't base this all on this passed-on overheard conversation. Women may have their interest piqued with good looks, but they are seduced verbally. Men can charm women with words just remember that. It's the key
sedgwick Posted January 23, 2010 Posted January 23, 2010 Daily confirmations of my beliefs. Interesting...I totally disagreed with you but that seems not to have been noted. Could it be possible you're only hearing what you want to hear? Also, "a big tall guy with natural large muscles" is a total turnoff to me. I'll take scrawny and geeky any day! Negate THAT, yo.
paddington bear Posted January 23, 2010 Posted January 23, 2010 Interesting...I totally disagreed with you but that seems not to have been noted. Could it be possible you're only hearing what you want to hear? Also, "a big tall guy with natural large muscles" is a total turnoff to me. I'll take scrawny and geeky any day! Negate THAT, yo. I have another friend who likes androgynous guys, thin, no muscle definition and quite feminine, girly faces. Different strokes. I wonder how long it would take the human population to dwindle into near extinction if we all really did go for and breed with the stereotype of what is good looking.
Author PJKino Posted January 23, 2010 Author Posted January 23, 2010 sorry - I meant that, this friend who repeated it back to you, wasn't really necessary was it? I know it doesn't seem that way now, but just take a look around you at all the couples you see around you in every age bracket and assess how many are stunning looking. Gorgeous looking people are the exception. Observe that there are not-so good looking people either in couples or married...and maybe you are not ugly at all. Don't base this all on this passed-on overheard conversation. Women may have their interest piqued with good looks, but they are seduced verbally. Men can charm women with words just remember that. It's the key Thanks for the kidns word hope youre right.. Just kinda hurts to be seen by women as some ugly guy especially one your friends with and see allot
sedgwick Posted January 23, 2010 Posted January 23, 2010 Thanks for the kidns word hope youre right.. Just kinda hurts to be seen by women as some ugly guy especially one your friends with and see allot Okay, honestly? Y'know what's really sexy? Guys who can write well. For example, that'd be "you're" and "a lot." Seriously, if you want to know what immediately turns me off and kills any interest I may have, it's bad spelling. But perhaps I'm weird... It seems to me, also, that I recently saw my 5'5" ex's wedding pictures wherein he's tilting his head back to kiss his taller wife. But like paddington said, they MUST have Photoshopped all their wedding pictures to make her look taller, because there's NO WAY she could POSSIBLY be attracted to him when he's 2" shorter than she is. It must all be a LIE! A HUGE LIE propagated by the entire internet JUST TO F*CK WITH YOUR HEAD!! There's something called Occam's Razor you might want to look up...
USMCHokie Posted January 23, 2010 Posted January 23, 2010 Daily confirmations of my beliefs. Actually this works out to the benefit of humanity...I like to think of this as natural selection at work...the sickly and pathetic will eventually be filtered out...even if by their own doing...I am not in the least bit butt hurt if he never finds a mate...
sedgwick Posted January 23, 2010 Posted January 23, 2010 (edited) I'd like to add that, ultimately, the only way you're going to get the answers you're looking for is to ask the friend who supposedly said this. First make sure she truly said it. If she did, then ask her, without malice, what it is that makes you ugly in her eyes, and if she thinks this is a universal belief among all women. If it matters that much what she thinks of you, ask her to take you to a stylist who will show you what "women" find attractive. You could use this as a learning opportunity, if you're really that concerned about it. Oh, and... It's better to be tall and ugly than short and good looking. 100%, completely, totally, MASSIVELY false. Again: Jon Stewart. Short and good-looking. Do a half-second google search for "Jon Stewart sexy" and tell me you don't find anything. Better yet, here, I'll give ya a couple: http://www.moxiegrrrl.com/2005/04/jon-stewart-why-hes-so-sexy.html http://gothamist.com/2004/09/23/ladies_love_jon_stewart.php Edited January 23, 2010 by sedgwick
cognac Posted January 23, 2010 Posted January 23, 2010 Between a tall and ugly guy and a short and handsome guy , women will pick neither. However, between an average looking tall guy and a handsome 5'7 guy women will usually go for the tall. Women may have a lot of variables in which kind of guy they like but the one they never ease up on is height . If you're 5'7 and down and not in a very good financial situation, get familiar with the hookers in your town.
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