Zeegagge Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 As I read this forum I notice that a lot of women claim they'll never meet a good man or there's just no one out there for them, etc. Don't feel that way and don't guard yourself because of it. There are plenty of good men out there and I know this because I am one of them. There are men out there who are desperately trying to find a woman just like you. Men who could potentially love you and care for you so deeply, if you're the right one. Don't hide yourself from the dating scene, and don't guard yourself from letting someone in, as long as they are deserving. It can be really hard on guys to find a woman, court a woman, establish a relationship and then hold on to it. There are many many hurdles we have to jump along the way and at each one we could potentially fall. Not that I'm saying it's easy on women either, but I don't know that side of things. Sometimes you have to look past a lot of minor flaws in a person to see the true value of that person deep down. Major flaws should not be overlooked of course. Once you find the value at the core of that person it can make you and them so happy, and this is where, hopefully, love will occur. It's worth it. It's worth the pain and the effort and the risk. I've been knocked down so many times and yet, somehow I keep trying. I don't know what strength it is I use to do this any more, or how I haven't run out, but somehow I'm still out there. Maybe it'll happen again for me soon. I'm really hoping it does. In the meantime, ladies, go easy on us guys, the good ones anyway. Sometimes the one you don't give a chance may be the one who deserves it most.
OpenGL Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 As I read this forum I notice that a lot of women claim they'll never meet a good man or there's just no one out there for them, etc. Let me stop you right there, I think you are misunderstanding what women really mean by that. When women say there are no good men, what they mean is that there are no very good looking and successful men that meet their ridiculous standards that they don't even posses themselves.
Template Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 Let me stop you right there, I think you are misunderstanding what women really mean by that. When women say there are no good men, what they mean is that there are no very good looking and successful men that meet their ridiculous standards that they don't even posses themselves. I tend to agree with OpenGL on this, as I know plenty upon plenty of good guys (I being one of them), that are single, and by happen chance to be the person these women always complain to when they say "... can't find a good guy." I also know plenty of good looking JERKS, and guess what, these same women have absolutely no problem dating these guys, trying to change them to good guys, or see "potential" in these guys that they are good - in the end, it's all a futile attmpet. I think if people (men and women, alike) are just truly honest about themselves, with themselves, they'd find it a lot easier to find happiness. If all you really want is a trophy, and trophy is what you get, stop complaining about not finding the substance. Most of us however, don't want other people to see that we really are just shallow, self-centered, selfish people. As I'll be the first to admit, I'm a 5, that likes 9s and 10s, and rarely gives other 5s a chance. So sue me.. at least I'm real. Better than being another 5 and a liar.
OpenGL Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 As I'll be the first to admit, I'm a 5, that likes 9s and 10s, and rarely gives other 5s a chance. So sue me.. at least I'm real. Better than being another 5 and a liar. Don't feel too bad or feel like your results will improve if you go after other 5's. I'm also a 5 and go after 2's and 3's and they don't give me the time of day. The only people I can get are morbidly obese women and gay men.
Goodin Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 As I read this forum I notice that a lot of women claim they'll never meet a good man or there's just no one out there for them, etc. Don't feel that way and don't guard yourself because of it. There are plenty of good men out there and I know this because I am one of them. There are men out there who are desperately trying to find a woman just like you. Men who could potentially love you and care for you so deeply, if you're the right one. Don't hide yourself from the dating scene, and don't guard yourself from letting someone in, as long as they are deserving. It can be really hard on guys to find a woman, court a woman, establish a relationship and then hold on to it. There are many many hurdles we have to jump along the way and at each one we could potentially fall. Not that I'm saying it's easy on women either, but I don't know that side of things. Sometimes you have to look past a lot of minor flaws in a person to see the true value of that person deep down. Major flaws should not be overlooked of course. Once you find the value at the core of that person it can make you and them so happy, and this is where, hopefully, love will occur. It's worth it. It's worth the pain and the effort and the risk. I've been knocked down so many times and yet, somehow I keep trying. I don't know what strength it is I use to do this any more, or how I haven't run out, but somehow I'm still out there. Maybe it'll happen again for me soon. I'm really hoping it does. In the meantime, ladies, go easy on us guys, the good ones anyway. Sometimes the one you don't give a chance may be the one who deserves it most. Good post Z, and great to hear you are positive about dating. It's nice to see some positivity after reading so much negative, bad-mouthing nonsense on this site. Personally, I am in a good place in life...I know I've screwed up ALOT with women but I feel I have learned from it. The next woman in my life will be very lucky to have me.
cat-power Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 . There are plenty of good men out there and I know this because I am one of them. There are men out there who are desperately trying to find a woman just like you. Men who could potentially love you and care for you so deeply, if you're the right one. Don't hide yourself from the dating scene, and don't guard yourself from letting someone in, as long as they are deserving. . Then would you please tell me where to find them ???? because I haven't got a clue ! And btw i'm the type that truely hates the "tom cruise and brad pit type" I have never gone for toyboys like that. All I want is someone that keeps their promisses, has some ambition in life, is kind and least doesn't have a wife and kids in the background (that i don't know about because he didn't tell me) or doesn't go for one of my girlfriends after a couple of months. Not too much to ask I would think. Just can't find him. I'm independant, have a life, house and am self-employed, did some moddeling in the past so quite good looking. Please tell me what i am doing wrong.
Trialbyfire Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 I agree there are not only good men but great men out there!!
OpenGL Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 Then would you please tell me where to find them ???? because I haven't got a clue ! Open your eyes.
hoping2heal Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 I agree there are not only good men but great men out there!! I second this. I am fortunate to have one of them:love:
cat-power Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 Open your eyes. they have been open for a while now:rolleyes:
alphamale Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 Let me stop you right there, I think you are misunderstanding what women really mean by that. When women say there are no good men, what they mean is that there are no very good looking and successful men that meet their ridiculous standards that they don't even posses themselves. thats essentially correct
Mr White Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 Us, good men get snatched up quickly by the discerning cuties. That said, plenty of women have serious emotional issues that lead them to bypass good men, so there is hope for everyone.
Mr White Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 Let me stop you right there, I think you are misunderstanding what women really mean by that. When women say there are no good men, what they mean is that there are no very good looking and successful men that meet their ridiculous standards that they don't even posses themselves. Yep, let's tell it like it is.
Trialbyfire Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 I second this. I am fortunate to have one of them:love:I do as well. But one thing's for certain. If you find a great man, snap him up fast!
cognac Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 I'm also a 5 and go after 2's and 3's and they don't give me the time of day. The only people I can get are morbidly obese women and gay men. [/Quote] ROFL! I'm in the same exact boat man. Especially the gay men one, I get gay guys giving me starry eyes all the time. Yesterday I was at the bar and saw a guy who looked normal, sad, and lonely so I just said "hey how's it going" to make him feel more comfortable and in a friendly environment. 10 minutes later his friends came in and they were all gays like him and they were buying me drinks all night asking me to hang out with them, despite me declining, getting away from their group, and telling them they were seriously barking up the wrong tree. There is nothing gay or effeminate about my personality or appearance either. I personally don't agree with the homosexual lifestyle either, how is it that women can "smell" my "negative attitude" according to women here, yet gay guys, drug users, and obese women seem to overlook it!
phineas Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 I tend to agree with OpenGL on this, as I know plenty upon plenty of good guys (I being one of them), that are single, and by happen chance to be the person these women always complain to when they say "... can't find a good guy." I'll stop you right there. That I think is your biggest problem. I personally, don't want to hear that crap when talking to some of the women I know & I let them know straight up. I'm seperated & want to stay single right now at least until my divorce is final. The women calling me up know this. They also know I won't pick up the phone or text back next time if they try bitching to me about that crap. Though, I'm pretty sure the reason their calling me is they are interested in me & waiting until i'm divorced so that could be why that type of stuff doesn't come up much.
phineas Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 Don't feel too bad or feel like your results will improve if you go after other 5's. I'm also a 5 and go after 2's and 3's and they don't give me the time of day. The only people I can get are morbidly obese women and gay men. are the gay men in shape?
USMCHokie Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 are the gay men in shape? You'd be surprised...gay men do have high standards too...so OpenGL may be doing alright if he can draw in the occasional gay guy...
Trialbyfire Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 You'd be surprised...gay men do have high standards too...so OpenGL may be doing alright if he can draw in the occasional gay guy...There's nothing wrong with switch hitting.
alphamale Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 there are puh-lenty of "good" men and women around...finding each other is the hard part
OpenGL Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 ROFL! I'm in the same exact boat man. Especially the gay men one, I get gay guys giving me starry eyes all the time. Yesterday I was at the bar and saw a guy who looked normal, sad, and lonely so I just said "hey how's it going" to make him feel more comfortable and in a friendly environment. 10 minutes later his friends came in and they were all gays like him and they were buying me drinks all night asking me to hang out with them, despite me declining, getting away from their group, and telling them they were seriously barking up the wrong tree. There is nothing gay or effeminate about my personality or appearance either. I personally don't agree with the homosexual lifestyle either, how is it that women can "smell" my "negative attitude" according to women here, yet gay guys, drug users, and obese women seem to overlook it! Funny story because the same thing happened to me last weekend at the club. Dude bought me a drink and chatted me up but I didn't pass up the free drink I think overall more men have bought me drinks than women.
OpenGL Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 are the gay men in shape? Gay men are usually in way better shape than straight men. I have said it several times on this forum but I am in very good shape and I get guys staring at me all the time in the gym. I have absolutely no problem attracting men. I know for a fact that if I were gay I'd have my pick of hot guys.
OnlyJake Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 I'm single, and I meet great and good guys all the time. Just because they're not right for me, or I'm not right for them doesn't mean they're not great or good guys.
USMCHokie Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 Gay men are usually in way better shape than straight men. I have said it several times on this forum but I am in very good shape and I get guys staring at me all the time in the gym. I have absolutely no problem attracting men. I know for a fact that if I were gay I'd have my pick of hot guys. I've been told numerous times that I would do rather well bartending at a gay bar. But seriously though, what you just said tells me that it's all in your head when it comes to women. If you can attract good looking gay guys, then you should have absolutely no problem attracting women. It's almost as if you don't want to attract women. You're more comfortable feeling sorry for yourself, throwing the pity parties, and getting sympathy from others to boost a low self-esteem. And until you change that attitude, no amount of anything will ever help you. And you must be petite...gay guys certainly do like smallish men who are in shape...like a little toy...
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