Woggle Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 In relation to the original post...the low self esteem girls who toy with men. I've seen them do it too and it makes me sick, but what really annoys me is how many men are totally oblivious to how they are being manoeuvred into position, manipulated and lied to. I think women can see clearly the tactics that some other women use, can see when they are manipulating men, wrapping them right around their little fingers, luring them in. But should you dare suggest that the girl a guy is dating might not have the nicest motives the guy will accuse you of being jealous or a b**ch, that 'Miss X' is so lovely and wonderful and doesn't have a bad bone in her body. I just stand back and wait for the pain to hit because it's the only way to learn, through doing. When the love glasses are on, you cannot or will not believe that you are merely a puppet on a string for some girl with issues who's quite happy to use you to further her own ends and then drop you when she's done. Men seem to be totally unaware of the machinations of certain women when it is used on them and this is one of those occassions where they should be suspicious at the beginning before they get involved and get hurt. This works the other way around as well.
Author bananaboat11 Posted January 21, 2010 Author Posted January 21, 2010 This works the other way around as well. Very, very true.
randall Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 In relation to the original post...the low self esteem girls who toy with men. I've seen them do it too and it makes me sick, but what really annoys me is how many men are totally oblivious to how they are being manoeuvred into position, manipulated and lied to. I can usually ick up pretty well on whether a girl is playing me or one of my friends. The biggest problem I've encountered is if I mention that a woman is playing games the guy gets really nasty to *me*. I learned never to forewarn other guys, just let them play it out and learn for themselves.
ella23 Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 (edited) OP, sorry that you're feeling so low. Hope you'll be better soon. the low self esteem girls who toy with men. I've seen them do it too and it makes me sick, but what really annoys me is how many men are totally oblivious to how they are being manoeuvred into position, manipulated and lied to. Yeah, but often low self esteem people in general are too messed up emotionally to realise what they're doing is messing someone else up, or that they are playing with someone else's feelings. Edited January 21, 2010 by ella23
Author bananaboat11 Posted January 21, 2010 Author Posted January 21, 2010 She's gone, gone, gone, gone... she's toxic... she's manipulative, she's one big ****ing red flag. just need to remind myself of this every time I begin to miss her. the sex was awesome though. It sucks b/c I have a high sex drive b/c of my surging testosterone (I bodybuild)... and I, for moralistic purposes, won't engage in sexual activity outside a relationship... I need to make a friend w/ benefits and call it a relationship
ella23 Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 It's been a few months since you both broke up? You seem to be hurting a lot still.
Author bananaboat11 Posted January 21, 2010 Author Posted January 21, 2010 It's been a few months since you both broke up? You seem to be hurting a lot still. Just about 3 months. I'm not as bad. I have my ups and downs... they come and go, but not as frequent. Last night was the worst I've been in a few weeks. But thanks for noticing I'm a wreck
hoping2heal Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 She's gone, gone, gone, gone... she's toxic... she's manipulative, she's one big ****ing red flag. just need to remind myself of this every time I begin to miss her. the sex was awesome though. It sucks b/c I have a high sex drive b/c of my surging testosterone (I bodybuild)... and I, for moralistic purposes, won't engage in sexual activity outside a relationship... I need to make a friend w/ benefits and call it a relationship Don't take this as an insult, but you remind me very closely to a woman who confused sex for love. I don't see how friends with benefits is going to help you either. Yes,you want and enjoy sex but your biggest drive is for an emotional connection. How many serious relationships have you had? How many times have you been in love?
Author bananaboat11 Posted January 21, 2010 Author Posted January 21, 2010 I guess I always 'EXPECTED, but NOT hoped' that she'd come back somehow... or let me know she was thinking of me. Now I need to realize, even if she did unblock me on facebook for whatever ****ed up reason... she isn't. That kind of made me sad for a few days... She's a ****ed up girl, apparently.. worse than I thought that she could get so intimate... so physical... and then just move on. it's cruel, it's cold, it's heartless... and it's something I've never dealt with or expected... until now. Sucks for me, huh?
ella23 Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 Just about 3 months. I'm not as bad. I have my ups and downs... they come and go, but not as frequent. Last night was the worst I've been in a few weeks. But thanks for noticing I'm a wreck heh, no, I just understand how past relationships can mess you up emotionally. I know how you feel. Why not take counselling? All your posts make it look like you've been hurting a lot.
Author bananaboat11 Posted January 21, 2010 Author Posted January 21, 2010 Don't take this as an insult, but you remind me very closely to a woman who confused sex for love. I don't see how friends with benefits is going to help you either. Yes,you want and enjoy sex but your biggest drive is for an emotional connection. How many serious relationships have you had? How many times have you been in love? 2 relationships... 1 for a year.. the other 15 months... In love? I thought once, but I don't know now. The one I thought I was in love with thinks I'm her soulmate / our souls are connected... hm I'm not getting involved with that. I guess this is also... this girl completely destroyed my ego... and I'd like HER to sort of reinflate it? I know, that's selfish of me.
hoping2heal Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 2 relationships... 1 for a year.. the other 15 months... In love? I thought once, but I don't know now. The one I thought I was in love with thinks I'm her soulmate / our souls are connected... hm I'm not getting involved with that. I guess this is also... this girl completely destroyed my ego... and I'd like HER to sort of reinflate it? I know, that's selfish of me. Okay so, you've had 2 serious relationships marking a year or more, and only of them you can say you were "maybe" in love with? Is that something you've looked back in retrospect and figured out..or did you just not have those types of feelings when you were actually dating?
Author bananaboat11 Posted January 21, 2010 Author Posted January 21, 2010 Okay so, you've had 2 serious relationships marking a year or more, and only of them you can say you were "maybe" in love with? Is that something you've looked back in retrospect and figured out..or did you just not have those types of feelings when you were actually dating? Out of my four relationships not including this one those are the two girls I'm friends with
hoping2heal Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 Out of my four relationships not including this one those are the two girls I'm friends with Okay I'm not understanding lol. Okay so you are still friends with these girls after dating them? Is that right? I'm still not clear on wether you spent a year or more with one of them and you didn't feel in love with her.
Author bananaboat11 Posted January 21, 2010 Author Posted January 21, 2010 Okay I'm not understanding lol. Okay so you are still friends with these girls after dating them? Is that right? I'm still not clear on wether you spent a year or more with one of them and you didn't feel in love with her. hoping to heal. in my lab. busy. was on my droid eris (google phone) will elaborate later - sorry! thanks so much for your help and I know.. I sound foolish & crazy for still caring about someone I shouldn't... im beginning to think it's my ego thing... i let an unworthy girl control me and belittle me...
Author bananaboat11 Posted January 22, 2010 Author Posted January 22, 2010 Okay I'm not understanding lol. Okay so you are still friends with these girls after dating them? Is that right? I'm still not clear on wether you spent a year or more with one of them and you didn't feel in love with her. One girl who we broke up because of religious reasons... the long long RS... I was really falling for her... The other... I believe it was truly infatuation at first... but I don't know... she wanted to go abroad.. and I convinced her (she was afraid to leave me behind) that she should go. We broke up a week after she left... now she thinks our souls are connected after we had NC (my initiative) for about 7 months. hm the religious breakup reason... we had NC for about 13-14 months.. then she randomly, out of nowhere contacted me. Thought I'd never talk to her again... it was a BAD breakup over religion and 'raising our kids'... we were nowhere near marriage though
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